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Audi Quattro
10-23-2006, 07:18 AM
Did it do what it was supposed to do? The reason I ask is because I witnessed it in person on a laser test and punch thru was 2000ft on a black car with Roy's Laser shield combo and it did not work.

sethy
10-23-2006, 11:08 AM
certain guns do differently on veil. Ultralyte and LA are usually almost isntant punch through with those special occations. Stalker is no math for veil.

holein1
10-23-2006, 01:34 PM
Did it do what it was supposed to do? The reason I ask is because I witnessed it in person on a laser test and punch thru was 2000ft on a black car with Roy's Laser shield combo and it did not work.

In WA Staters use pro laser III and veil + LS really help a lot! :twisted:

Arashi666
10-24-2006, 01:03 AM
Proud to say Ive driven off a LTi Marksman 20/20 to 300ft on VEIL only, no Front plate, no jammer, on a Black car

RacerX
10-24-2006, 11:40 AM
Back before i had an actual laser gun, i had used an osprey range finder for some tests.

here's those results.
this is on my truck.

Base run, NO Veil or bra:

30mph.........60mph
PH=700'......550'
DH=620'.....500'

Base run, with Veil:

30mph.........60mph
PH=600'......500'
DH=500'.....425'


Base run Veil and bra:

30mph.........60mph
PH=450'......350'
DH=375'.....300'

not a real lidar gun, but it still shows the differences.

richardboy316
10-24-2006, 05:34 PM
Back before i had an actual laser gun, i had used an osprey range finder for some tests.

here's those results.
this is on my truck.

Base run, NO Veil or bra:

30mph.........60mph
PH=700'......550'
DH=620'.....500'

Base run, with Veil:

30mph.........60mph
PH=600'......500'
DH=500'.....425'


Base run Veil and bra:

30mph.........60mph
PH=450'......350'
DH=375'.....300'

not a real lidar gun, but it still shows the differences.

what do PH and DH stand for

LittleOverPSL
10-24-2006, 09:13 PM
what do PH and DH stand for
PH = Passenger side Headlight
DH = Driver side Headlight

quandary
10-24-2006, 09:55 PM
So based on these results, you could already see the laser gun visually. Although Veil provided reductions from a percentage basis, it did not matter in your tests. I thought the range on the laser devices were much longer?



Back before i had an actual laser gun, i had used an osprey range finder for some tests.

here's those results.
this is on my truck.

Base run, NO Veil or bra:

30mph.........60mph
PH=700'......550'
DH=620'.....500'

Base run, with Veil:

30mph.........60mph
PH=600'......500'
DH=500'.....425'


Base run Veil and bra:

30mph.........60mph
PH=450'......350'
DH=375'.....300'

not a real lidar gun, but it still shows the differences.

RacerX
10-25-2006, 11:04 AM
correct on the headlights.

that was with a range finder, and it doesn't have the power of a real gun, but it works pretty good at determining jammer placement, plus it shows that Veil does reduce the reflection on a raw test.

i also did a video for Veil, and it showed about a 50% reduction in reading.
similar size and color vehicles. i had a bra and Veil.

7.9 MB
http://donspc.com/Forum/veilvideo.wmv

the JTG was with Blinders on.

Audi Quattro
10-26-2006, 10:58 AM
You shot with it a Marksman, try it with the LA and you will get PT from 2000ft or maybe more using just veil.

happya$$
10-26-2006, 04:32 PM
Veil does GREAT on my Civic. In fact I purposely take run against cops with my jammer off to see how well Veil will do. They usually shoot me for about 8 seconds before they stop

JTW
10-26-2006, 05:17 PM
Veil does GREAT on my Civic. In fact I purposely take run against cops with my jammer off to see how well Veil will do. They usually shoot me for about 8 seconds before they stop

2000' veil punch was done with an LA, not an ultralyte like the guns you're getting hit with.

JTW

crazyVOLVOrob
10-27-2006, 08:43 AM
Veil does GREAT on my Civic. In fact I purposely take run against cops with my jammer off to see how well Veil will do. They usually shoot me for about 8 seconds before they stop

2000' veil punch was done with an LA, not an ultralyte like the guns you're getting hit with.

JTWWell the LA guns are the kinds of punch through then :lol:

Audi Quattro
10-27-2006, 09:52 AM
yeah..with a Laser Atlanta, Veil alone is not going to help you. Veil has not effect.

quandary
10-28-2006, 01:04 AM
Very interesting. So this means that the infrared filtering abilities of Veil work against one type of gun but not the other. Aren't they all based on infrared? How does the Marksman and LA differ? I guess the LEO vs the people wars continue to the next round.

Arashi666
10-28-2006, 04:40 AM
Very interesting. So this means that the infrared filtering abilities of Veil work against one type of gun but not the other. Aren't they all based on infrared? How does the Marksman and LA differ? I guess the LEO vs the people wars continue to the next round.

Pulse rate and Power is where they all differ, some shoot "faster" than others and some provide more power to the Laser emitter than others........ thats where the differing PTs come from