I bought a ProLaser 3. About to test the M25.

[piratebay]

I bought a ProLaser 3 from PBelectronics(Paul is a really cool guy.) With the blinder M25 I bought from outrun I'll be doing some IR jammer testing. My question to you is how many runs do you want to see and what should I target at? I will have a license plate.

[IRCMUSA]

I bought a ProLaser 3 from PBelectronics(Paul is a really cool guy.) With the blinder M25 I bought from outrun I'll be doing some IR jammer testing. My question to you is how many runs do you want to see and what should I target at? I will have a license plate.

the way i do it is target plate only to the gun do a few runs
then passenger head lamp a few runs that way.

but honestly in a real wold situation a LEO will be freaking out and will be all over the front of the car. I know a few leos and have se them do it it cracks me up!
so really i cant submit a vote

[Rottman]

I want to see it all man, that's what the police will do so why would you do otherwise?

[piratebay]

I want to see it all man, that's what the police will do so why would you do otherwise?

I was thinking that if the blinder didn't detect on a headlight 1 of the 2 blinder sellers would say I turned off the unit. I just figured out what I'm going to do though. What I'll do to prevent that kind of scrutiny is tape the blinder M25 control box, buzzer, and LED on top of the hood, that way the driver couldn't turn off the jammer even if he wanted too.

I want to do a perfect test that is bullet proof of any kind of "excuses." If anyone on this board can think of anything someone might say please let me know now.

*Support Piratebay!*

[hookem202]

Man i have been looking at that unit on pbelectronics. $2450 for that bad boy. Pretty expensive for testing purposes. My advice is to lease it out for a week's period to other forum members and help diminish that cost. Suf daddy does it with his and i have rented his Marksman 20 20.

[piratebay]

Man i have been looking at that unit on pbelectronics. $2450 for that bad boy. Pretty expensive for testing purposes. My advice is to lease it out for a week's period to other forum members and help diminish that cost. Suf daddy does it with his and i have rented his Marksman 20 20.

I'm most likely going to sell the unit on Ebay after I'm bored with it. I mean how much testing can you possible do? It would be interesting to test out the new lidatek coming out. May hold onto it until that puppy comes out.

If anyone wants to rent my PL3 you can email me at CEO@Lidatek.com

KIDDING! lol

*support Piratebay!*

[thestaton]

do 25% headlight, 25% front plate, 25% side mirror, 25% roof line.

what kind of vehicle?

[BossMan4Life]

This dude definantly must be joking. It's just something about this post that seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500+ lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it. How about this-if you want to be believed you'd do what the rest of the people do on this forum.....post a picture. How about one of your ProlaserIII and the box your M25 came in, together in the same photo. That'd shut me right on up.

[IRCMUSA]

This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/jake1911/smileys/beat20dead20horse-1.gif

[piratebay]

This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

Hmmmm lets think about this :-)

Buy a PL3 for $2,400 plus shipping on credit card

60 days later.....

Sell PL3 on Ebay for $2,500(PL3's have a high resale value)

Total $ lost for having fun = $0.00

I'd say it would be illogical NOT to buy the PL3 and listen to commercials instead ;-)

*support Piratebay!*

[IRCMUSA]

This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

Hmmmm lets think about this :-)

Buy a PL3 for $2,400 plus shipping on credit card

60 days later.....

Sell PL3 on Ebay for $2,500(PL3's have a high resale value)

Total $ lost for having fun = $0.00

I'd say it would be illogical NOT to buy the PL3 and listen to commercials instead ;-)

*support Piratebay!*

:shock: sounds good to me

[MrBond]

No my friend, this is retarted. Why on earth you would waste your money on 1 lidar gun, to MAYBE be able to sell it on ebay for close to what you paid. What do you think your really going to accomplish via testing the blinders against 1 gun??? You could have spent 1/5 of the money, and rented the guns. If volvobob cannot get up enough guns down here in NYC to test the LI, I'll rent them all myself from the forum member on here and do the test.

Mr bOND



This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

Hmmmm lets think about this :-)

Buy a PL3 for $2,400 plus shipping on credit card

60 days later.....

Sell PL3 on Ebay for $2,500(PL3's have a high resale value)

Total $ lost for having fun = $0.00

I'd say it would be illogical NOT to buy the PL3 and listen to commercials instead ;-)

*support Piratebay!*

[BossMan4Life]

This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

Hmmmm lets think about this :-)

Buy a PL3 for $2,400 plus shipping on credit card

60 days later.....

Sell PL3 on Ebay for $2,500(PL3's have a high resale value)

Total $ lost for having fun = $0.00

I'd say it would be illogical NOT to buy the PL3 and listen to commercials instead ;-)

*support Piratebay!*

I still think you're BS'n the forum.....but you also could prove me wrong by posting a couple pictures. Hmmm, something tells me that's not gonna happen. Bottom line advice straight from a Boss--Dude Keep it Real.

[IRCMUSA]

just ask Beavis what he thinks
he looks to be a smart guy
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[piratebay]

No my friend, this is retarted. Why on earth you would waste your money on 1 lidar gun, to MAYBE be able to sell it on ebay for close to what you paid. What do you think your really going to accomplish via testing the blinders against 1 gun??? You could have spent 1/5 of the money, and rented the guns. If volvobob cannot get up enough guns down here in NYC to test the LI, I'll rent them all myself from the forum member on here and do the test.

Mr bOND



This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

Hmmmm lets think about this :-)

Buy a PL3 for $2,400 plus shipping on credit card

60 days later.....

Sell PL3 on Ebay for $2,500(PL3's have a high resale value)

Total $ lost for having fun = $0.00

I'd say it would be illogical NOT to buy the PL3 and listen to commercials instead ;-)

*support Piratebay!*

Sorry, but you don't understand simple math.

To rent a lidar gun would cost at least $200.00. That's 200.00 I would NEVER get back. If you did your homework you'd see lidar guns, especially the PL3 sells for $2,500 easily. That would mean I would lose ZERO money in the long run.

Who's the retard? The guy who lost 200 bucks. And that person isn't me ;-)

[IRCMUSA]

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/jake1911/VWsnap.gif


drama drama drama

[piratebay]

This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

Hmmmm lets think about this :-)

Buy a PL3 for $2,400 plus shipping on credit card

60 days later.....

Sell PL3 on Ebay for $2,500(PL3's have a high resale value)

Total $ lost for having fun = $0.00

I'd say it would be illogical NOT to buy the PL3 and listen to commercials instead ;-)

*support Piratebay!*

I still think you're BS'n the forum.....but you also could prove me wrong by posting a couple pictures. Hmmm, something tells me that's not gonna happen. Bottom line advice straight from a Boss--Dude Keep it Real.

I will expect you eating humble pie soon. Of course you're too much of a "boss" to let anyone know you ate it ;-) Enjoy the coming week. lol

[BossMan4Life]

First of all smart guy, you (noone) can never guarantee what anything will go for on ebay at any given time. That's why they call it fleabay, people go on there looking to buy stuff at a cheaper than retail price. Second of all, the proof is in the puddin'......where's the damm pictures of this stuff you own man??? Everybody knows the old saying-a picture's worth a thousand words, so quit yappin and start postin photos. Case Closed!!

[thestaton]

No my friend, this is retarted. Why on earth you would waste your money on 1 lidar gun, to MAYBE be able to sell it on ebay for close to what you paid. What do you think your really going to accomplish via testing the blinders against 1 gun??? You could have spent 1/5 of the money, and rented the guns. If volvobob cannot get up enough guns down here in NYC to test the LI, I'll rent them all myself from the forum member on here and do the test.

Mr bOND



This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

Hmmmm lets think about this :-)

Buy a PL3 for $2,400 plus shipping on credit card

60 days later.....

Sell PL3 on Ebay for $2,500(PL3's have a high resale value)

Total $ lost for having fun = $0.00

I'd say it would be illogical NOT to buy the PL3 and listen to commercials instead ;-)

*support Piratebay!*

Sorry, but you don't understand simple math.

To rent a lidar gun would cost at least $200.00. That's 200.00 I would NEVER get back. If you did your homework you'd see lidar guns, especially the PL3 sells for $2,500 easily. That would mean I would lose ZERO money in the long run.

Who's the retard? The guy who lost 200 bucks. And that person isn't me ;-)

First of all smart guy, you (noone) can never guarantee what anything will go for on ebay at any time. That's why they call it fleabay. Second of all, the proof is in the puddin'......where's the damm pictures of this stuff you own man??? Everybody knows the old saying-a picture's worth a thousand words, so quit yappin and start postin photos. Case Closed!!

take it easy. perhaps they have not arrived yet? I've offered to send him some Veil so he can test how effective it is against the Pro 3. so hopefully we get some results in a week or so.

[piratebay]

First of all smart guy, you (noone) can never guarantee what anything will go for on ebay at any given time. That's why they call it fleabay, people go on there looking to buy stuff at a cheaper than retail price. Second of all, the proof is in the puddin'......where's the damm pictures of this stuff you own man??? Everybody knows the old saying-a picture's worth a thousand words, so quit yappin and start postin photos. Case Closed!!

What's fishy is how someone who claims to own a mercedes(or is that your moms mercedes?) thinks 2.5k is alot of money lol. Now that is a joke my friend.

yeah "Fleabay." Sweet play on words. You really have the maturity and intelligence of a 10 year old.

[BossMan4Life]

Whew, thanks thestation for being the calming type of guy. Dude was definantly starting to irritate me doing all that mouth runnin' when I just want to see some pictures or videos to substantiate what he's saying.

Also dude quit commenting on my pictures and how sweet my words sound....makes me wanna call you Marvin cause you're definantly talkin Gaye.

[piratebay]

No my friend, this is retarted. Why on earth you would waste your money on 1 lidar gun, to MAYBE be able to sell it on ebay for close to what you paid. What do you think your really going to accomplish via testing the blinders against 1 gun??? You could have spent 1/5 of the money, and rented the guns. If volvobob cannot get up enough guns down here in NYC to test the LI, I'll rent them all myself from the forum member on here and do the test.

Mr bOND



This dude must be joking. Something about this post seems illogical. For example, if I bought a $2500 lidar gun (just to play with) I damnn sure wouldn't need the forums advice on where to shoot it.

Hmmmm lets think about this :-)

Buy a PL3 for $2,400 plus shipping on credit card

60 days later.....

Sell PL3 on Ebay for $2,500(PL3's have a high resale value)

Total $ lost for having fun = $0.00

I'd say it would be illogical NOT to buy the PL3 and listen to commercials instead ;-)

*support Piratebay!*

Sorry, but you don't understand simple math.

To rent a lidar gun would cost at least $200.00. That's 200.00 I would NEVER get back. If you did your homework you'd see lidar guns, especially the PL3 sells for $2,500 easily. That would mean I would lose ZERO money in the long run.

Who's the retard? The guy who lost 200 bucks. And that person isn't me ;-)

First of all smart guy, you (noone) can never guarantee what anything will go for on ebay at any time. That's why they call it fleabay. Second of all, the proof is in the puddin'......where's the damm pictures of this stuff you own man??? Everybody knows the old saying-a picture's worth a thousand words, so quit yappin and start postin photos. Case Closed!!

take it easy. perhaps they have not arrived yet? I've offered to send him some Veil so he can test how effective it is against the Pro 3. so hopefully we get some results in a week or so.

10 days or less and you'll have your M25 PL3 test.

[TSi+WRX]

What's fishy is how someone who claims to own a mercedes(or is that your moms mercedes?) thinks 2.5k is alot of money lol. Now that is a joke my friend.

$2.5K is a lot of money to anyone.

If you don't think so, you just have no appreciation for money. :(

[hookem202]

What's fishy is how someone who claims to own a mercedes(or is that your moms mercedes?) thinks 2.5k is alot of money lol. Now that is a joke my friend.

$2.5K is a lot of money to anyone.

If you don't think so, you just have no appreciation for money. :(

Well Said...

[IRCMUSA]

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http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/jake1911/smileys/beat20dead20horse.gif

sign language

[ELVATO]

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http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/jake1911/smileys/chair.gif

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/jake1911/smileys/pigfly.gif

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/jake1911/smileys/beat20dead20horse.gif

sign language

Hmmm...

PWNed

PWNed

PWNed

When pigs fly

Beating a dead horse

That's what I'm reading.

[outrun]

I bought a ProLaser 3 from PBelectronics(Paul is a really cool guy.) With the blinder M25 I bought from outrun I'll be doing some IR jammer testing. My question to you is how many runs do you want to see and what should I target at? I will have a license plate.

Uh, you want to fill me in here? When did I start selling blinder smart ass!

[crazyVOLVOrob]

I bought a ProLaser 3 from PBelectronics(Paul is a really cool guy.) With the blinder M25 I bought from outrun I'll be doing some IR jammer testing. My question to you is how many runs do you want to see and what should I target at? I will have a license plate.

Uh, you want to fill me in here? When did I start selling blinder smart ass!STH.com :wink: Care to answer the question of why your video quality has gotten better? You buy a new camera? Was it a gift? :wink:

Outrun I loved your videos and your work until you started selling out.

[IRCMUSA]

drama drama dramaaaaa!!!!
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/jake1911/smileys/icon_argue.gif

[outrun]

I bought a ProLaser 3 from PBelectronics(Paul is a really cool guy.) With the blinder M25 I bought from outrun I'll be doing some IR jammer testing. My question to you is how many runs do you want to see and what should I target at? I will have a license plate.

Uh, you want to fill me in here? When did I start selling blinder smart ass!STH.com :wink: Care to answer the question of why your video quality has gotten better? You buy a new camera? Was it a gift? :wink:

Outrun I loved your videos and your work until you started selling out.

Rob,

I had a long long answer for you but then I deleted it. Just not worth it. You know dang well and so does everyone else that I get paid to do commercials. I am not a sell out. You want a video made hit me up. I don't get paid to make it look like it works. I don't think yall even have a clue of the videos that I have made. You just think I have done video for Blinder? Bel, Escort, SML, Veil, Blinder, LPP, Antilaser and DF2 which sucked. I did video for all of them. Now that would be selling out if I kept making videos for DF2. It just didn't work.

So, I am no sell out.

To answer your question. Yes, I did get a new camera. Just a cheap one. Video editing is better only because I made it better.

[hookem202]

I bought a ProLaser 3 from PBelectronics(Paul is a really cool guy.) With the blinder M25 I bought from outrun I'll be doing some IR jammer testing. My question to you is how many runs do you want to see and what should I target at? I will have a license plate.

Uh, you want to fill me in here? When did I start selling blinder smart ass!STH.com :wink: Care to answer the question of why your video quality has gotten better? You buy a new camera? Was it a gift? :wink:

Outrun I loved your videos and your work until you started selling out.

Rob,

I had a long long answer for you but then I deleted it. Just not worth it. You know dang well and so does everyone else that I get paid to do commercials. I am not a sell out. You want a video made hit me up. I don't get paid to make it look like it works. I don't think yall even have a clue of the videos that I have made. You just think I have done video for Blinder? Bel, Escort, SML, Veil, Blinder, LPP, Antilaser and DF2 which sucked. I did video for all of them. Now that would be selling out if I kept making videos for DF2. It just didn't work.

So, I am no sell out.

To answer your question. Yes, I did get a new camera. Just a cheap one. Video editing is better only because I made it better.

Tu-sheaaa

Or however the hell you say it.

Outrun im glad you are sticking up for yourself.. Is there something wrong with doing something your good at to help swi ng a little more cash toward your family. We know from the past that you are honest and would not diminish yourself in any way. Bc you yourself have rightfully called someone else on this board(no name mentioned) that was supporting fabricated test results to promote a product. Outrun just stick with what you're doing bc obviously you are good at making videos.

[IRCMUSA]

In fencing, touché (French: touched) is used as an acknowledgement of a hit, called out by the fencer who is hit. A referee can call out touche (French: touch) to refer to a touch being called - for example, the French call for "no point" is "pas de touche" (French: lack of touch).

[piratebay]

In fencing, touché (French: touched) is used as an acknowledgement of a hit, called out by the fencer who is hit. A referee can call out touche (French: touch) to refer to a touch being called - for example, the French call for "no point" is "pas de touche" (French: lack of touch).

I couldn't help but smile when I read this post.

[BossMan4Life]

In fencing, touché (French: touched) is used as an acknowledgement of a hit, called out by the fencer who is hit. A referee can call out touche (French: touch) to refer to a touch being called - for example, the French call for "no point" is "pas de touche" (French: lack of touch).

I couldn't help but smile when I read this post.

Quit smilin-n-gigglin and get to postin them pics, youngsta!!

[outrun]

Man I can't wait for the test. Wonder what the outcome is going to be? :roll:

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Funny how your most recent LPP vieo if i remember right showed a older fellow i assume your father getting 800ft PT on you Pickup. Lets have the same guy shot at the Blinders!!!! I see the bias in your videos I am not dumb

[IRCMUSA]

Funny how your most recent LPP vieo if i remember right showed a older fellow i assume your father getting 800ft PT on you Pickup. Lets have the same guy shot at the Blinders!!!! I see the bias in your videos I am not dumb

do you have a link id like to see it

[outrun]

Rob,

Well I was just shooting and got a reading on the first run. You know anyone can punch through a jammer if you know what you are doing. It may take a while but you can do it after a few runs. I just happend to get it off his hood. Just by accident. He needs to move his heads up.

[thestaton]

Rob,

Well I was just shooting and got a reading on the first run. You know anyone can punch through a jammer if you know what you are doing. It may take a while but you can do it after a few runs. I just happend to get it off his hood. Just by accident. He needs to move his heads up.

weird how we haven't scene any random PT's on any of your blinders. that is assuming you know what your doing.

[outrun]

Believe it or not it's hard to punch through on my truck cause my lights have almost no reflectivity. If you watch that video of the beam you can see that.

I can punch through it but you have to aim way down on corner bumper. I ran the al and blinders and my dad got through it. But like I said he was aiming right at the lower bumper and my valentine didn't even go off. Thats how low the beam was.

[Radar Roy]

Many other forum members I have talked to feel the same way and say if it doesn’t change then many long time member’s are going to leave this forum. Many of which are valuable resources of information. Please don’t pass the matter by Roy. Thanks in advance.

Guys, this is one example of the MANY posts that have been PMed to me over the past couple days. They are plain and simple tired of the PUBLIC attacks going back and forth!

Lets calm down and play nice. Use the PM if you're going on attack

[WaltBurkett]

Oh, you again, GOL boy.


Not only are random PT’s possible but areas that are not quite fully covered can result in reflected light measurement.
An example would be getting a reading from my motorcycle helmet or the turn signal that hangs 20 inches away from the bike.
A very hard as well as small target at range, but if you use a tripod in some of the testing as Outrun does it is possible to target and sometimes get a reading.

Is that real world though?

I believe a jammer is used to delay the measurement of my speed and give me enough time to slowdown before any possible BT. Certainly no LEO is aiming at my helmet at 2000 ft as the initial aim point. Nor is he aiming at my turning signal in close as the initial aim point.
Are there videos of the above? Yes, do they really mean anything from a real world prospective? No.

As a proclaimed expert though, certainly you already know all this too well, correct?

Walt

PS- That would be “seen” not “scene”. Back to English class for you oh Mr. Attention To Detail.




"weird how we haven't scene any random PT's on any of your blinders. that is assuming you know what your doing."
_________________

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Rob,

Well I was just shooting and got a reading on the first run. You know anyone can punch through a jammer if you know what you are doing. It may take a while but you can do it after a few runs. I just happend to get it off his hood. Just by accident. He needs to move his heads up.

weird how we haven't scene any random PT's on any of your blinders. that is assuming you know what your doing.x2!!!!

Lets see a video with your father shooting your truck with the Blinder M45!!!!! PT city :wink:

[WaltBurkett]

Roy,

How about mandate that any “claims” also include some form of substantiation and no attacks will be allowed on this board?

Thestation is spouting that the Blinder 45 does not work because he witnessed such on your truck and one black Mustang.

He has also initiated hazing when he suggested not to purchase products from Veil Guy or Blinder Dude because they could not be trusted since those said products were tied to putting food on their tables. That would be an attack, correct?

The problem is you have this 25 year old immature college student pretty much allowed to go unchallenged. He has 3500 plus posts with the majority of them containing nothing of substance yet full of condescending babble.

Walt

[thestaton]

Oh, you again, GOL boy.


Not only are random PT’s possible but areas that are not quite fully covered can result in reflected light measurement.
An example would be getting a reading from my motorcycle helmet or the turn signal that hangs 20 inches away from the bike.
A very hard as well as small target at range, but if you use a tripod in some of the testing as Outrun does it is possible to target and sometimes get a reading.

Is that real world though?

I believe a jammer is used to delay the measurement of my speed and give me enough time to slowdown before any possible BT. Certainly no LEO is aiming at my helmet at 2000 ft as the initial aim point. Nor is he aiming at my turning signal in close as the initial aim point.
Are there videos of the above? Yes, do they really mean anything from a real world prospective? No.

As a proclaimed expert though, certainly you already know all this too well, correct?

Walt

PS- That would be “seen” not “scene”. Back to English class for you oh Mr. Attention To Detail.




"weird how we haven't scene any random PT's on any of your blinders. that is assuming you know what your doing."
_________________

My apologies captain, while writing my term papers I suppose I will pay attention but while on the internet I don't bother.

If / when I test a motorcycle I only aim at the helmet, it's the fastest way to get a reading. My roommate had a Harley Davidson that had a huge headlight on the front that we could pick off no problem, but with sport bikes it's complicated.

Sorry again Mr. Perfect. It must be rough always being right, I don't see how you handle the stress.

[happya$$]

Guys I hear that there are quite a few people performing their own tests so we will have plenty of more videos to view. No need to argue back and forth.

[Phillip559]

Will the drama ever stop?

[WaltBurkett]

That's why I did well landing on the carrier at night and in bad weather. I'm pretty good at attention to detail. I also back up what I say with evidence. You are too quick to make blanket statements about things you really don’t know too much about.

Take a look at the reasoned response by Roy above as to why he believes the Blinder did not work on his truck and the Mustang. You simply say Blinders do not work. Do you see the difference in his response and yours?

You also make forward looking statements about the M25/45 not working not because of actual testing but because you simply believe they will fail. You go on to admit that if they do work well you will admit you were wrong. Your arrogance is very apparent as is your immaturity.

You are evidently a part of GOL. If that is in fact true I believe you are a liability simply from the statements you make. Supposedly GOL prides itself in the fact that they provide the testing results and let the reader decide the true outcome. However you readily provided falsehoods and opinions on products you admit have not been tested yet. You have attacked other member’s contributions as well as methods when you offer no proof to back up your claims and blather.

Exactly what has your contribution to this forum been? I have looked at your prior threads since I joined a couple of months ago and find very little useful. Mostly condescending babble. I have tried to reason with you but to no avail. Obviously we are definitely not on the same academic level.


Walt








"Sorry again Mr. Perfect. It must be rough always being right, I don't see how you handle the stress."

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Oh outruns new best friend!!!! Just like Ford Focus you will see the truth soon :wink: :lol:

Just being apart of GOL doesn't mean they can't have opinions. Everyone ion this earth has opinions. The personal opinions of GOL members do not effect the results at all.

I weas at the March testing in Arizona and if I saw GOL's personal opinions effecting the results I would of exposed them. If people have followed my posts I am not afraid to expose people as liars.

[WaltBurkett]

It has nothing to with friendship. I have only met Outrun once and found him to be very professional.
It has to do with the truth.

Don’t opinions need to have some basis of fact? Don’t you think opinions should be identified as opinions and not as fact?

Station says the M25/45 does not work. He is a member of GOL.

So is this an opinion or fact? Does he speak for GOL?


You say expose people as liars. Fine, I’m sure you presented evidence to support your claim. Right?

Since Station says the M25/45 does not work but also admits it has not been tested what category do you put him in?




Walt

[thestaton]

It has nothing to with friendship. I have only met Outrun once and found him to be very professional.
It has to do with the truth.

Nice contribution, you have really added to this thread.

Walt

Disconnect your third head, make sure you have a front plate, shoot it against the stalker and pro 3 and get back to me.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Wow just accidentally deleeted my large post so you get the cliff note version

The GOL results are always released from their website there is not one main spokesman for GOL. There is no forum member 'GuysOfLidar' trying to be the end all and be all of the results.

All the results from the GOL testing are posted on their website and never posted solely on this forum from one member

I'd like to point out to someon's apology that thought the GOL had a spoke person and soon apologized. He is a good friend of Outrun and BlinderDude mostlikely due to their upcoming business venture.

Roy just informed me that I may have missed the mark a bit with my last response to StealthJamal where I tied his personal opinions to that of the Guys of LIDAR.

We all know that things got a little "hot and heavy" this weekend and seeing posts from Staton, StealthJamal, and Racerx was just too upsetting for my stomach.

However, I am a big enough man to acknowledge that if these three individuals are, in fact, NOT official GoL members (or spokesmen), then my comments inferring that such a relationship existed were in error.

Please accept this formal apology from me, personally, for my inferences.

I wish continued success to the "official" members of the GoL and look forward to your future positive contributions to our industry as a responsible and unified voice.

Veil Guy
:roll:

By the way lets see a licence plate on your M3 and just a Blinder M25 cause that is what a registered dealer would recommend for your state

[WaltBurkett]

Why would I disconnect the third head? The distance between the outer two heads necessitates it for coverage. (As per the Blinder install instructions)

As for the license plate I don’t have one on the front. Not only for threat reduction but it ruins the lines of my sports car. I’m certainly not going to add a reflective source.

I will get a chance to test against the Stalker fairly soon.

Walt

[hookem202]

Just being apart of GOL doesn't mean they can't have opinions. Everyone ion this earth has opinions. The personal opinions of GOL members do not effect the results at all.



Agreed but it doesn’t make it right either to diss someone. Roy has said in a previous post, I think on the previous page that dissing someone/little arguments about people's trustfulness is to be discussed in PM's.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Why would I disconnect the third head? Because that is the set-up which would be used by the average Joe.

Heck Alex Roy's Polizei M5 interceptor which he boasts to be so so stealth only has a Blinder M20 up front. This is a guy that prides himself on how stealth he is and he couldn't be more clueless :wink:

[thestaton]

Why would I disconnect the third head? The distance between the outer two heads necessitates it for coverage. (As per the Blinder install instructions)

As for the license plate I don’t have one on the front. Not only for threat reduction but it ruins the lines of my sports car. I’m certainly not going to add a reflective source.

I will get a chance to test against the Stalker fairly soon.

Walt

Cpt Walt,

Are you kidding me? Do you not see the wool being pulled over your eyes?

You are getting 300FT PT with no front plate and a 3rd head. Can you please realize what is going to happen when you add a front plate and remove the 3rd head? Can you please see what I'm trying to get at? You do not have a typical setup, your setup is there to promote Blinder and not represent what the typical setup represents.

That is retail a 2 head system and that is what is in question! Not some mack shift 3 head system on a small sports car with no front plate.

Do you not realize you are one of about 10 people who have a system with 3 blinder heads? You have to buy either 2 heads or 4.... 3 is not common.

Do you not see Outrun is manipulating you to get what he wants? Sales?

I beg you to test a 2 head system with a front plate and get back to me. I beg you.

[WaltBurkett]

As I mentioned earlier, I don’t run with a front plate. I did not have one on my 911 either. Really ruins the lines. In the 19 years I’ve lived in Texas I have never been pulled over or cited for the lack of one so I really don’t think it’s a big priority.

I can add that the Pro Laser 3 had no problems clocking my M3 at 2000 feet because on one run I turned off the Blinder after slowing and forgot to turn it back on for the next.

As for using two heads instead of three the instructions state the distance between the two heads should be 50-60CM. Thus I needed to have three heads to comply. (M35?)

The install is critical and I’ve done my homework.

Walt


"By the way lets see a licence plate on your M3 and just a Blinder M25 cause that is what a registered dealer would recommend for your state"

[WaltBurkett]

See this is where your comprehension is seriously lacking.

Go back and reread all my posts. I clearly and plainly mentioned I had 3 heads on my M3. (M35) The distance between the two necessitated adding a third. I asked Radar Roy and he also suggested doing so.
I also had plenty of pictures of my M3 sans a front plate.

I am not hiding anything. I also plainly stated what I had done in testing and how it performed on my M3 and my K1200S. Both installs and pictures are on this site.

You say agenda. I have no agenda. All I said from the very first post was what I had done and how it worked for me on my machines via my installations.

If you are trying to infer I am cheating by having 3 heads fine. I am protecting my vehicle. Some people put 4 heads on theirs. (M40/45)

Everything I did with Outrun was credible because this was identified from the start.

I have never questioned your videos. Don’t think I have ever seen them. What I did question was how you are able to say a product does not work before it has even been tested. You admit that. You also admit that you would apologize if it does in fact work. Not very scientific.

Yes there is PT a 300 ft. and I don’t run with a front plate. (Previously explained)
But if I did not use the Blinder system PT would equal trigger squeeze every time. So I am protected outside 300 feet against the Pro Laser 3.

The part you seem to be missing here because of a serious lack of comprehension on your part is disclosure. I disclosed from the very beginning I did not have a front license plate and had three heads on my M3 and one head on my K1200S.

If you somehow purport that my coverage would degrade with 2 heads and a front plate, well no ****. That’s why I have what I have.

Let me again spell this out for you. I have never tried to sell or convince anyone to purchase a Blinder. I have simply stated what I did with my vehicles and the performance I saw against the Pro Laser 3.

That’s it. Period.

Walt

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Yes you did your homework and your install in flawless UNFORTUNATELY the average joe going to a registered Blinder Dealer would get different advice from the dealer. On your car they would give you a M20/25 mount it at the corners of your center grills possibly behind mesh(I had a Blinder Installer install my blinder heads behind my mesh gril and it was instant punchthrough with my LA. I have since changed my set-up) You'd be surprised how many installers and average joes are idiots.

Heck Happya$$ use to have just an M20 on his wife's SUV :shock:! Luckily through the formation of the GOL and Staton's video of the Blinder M20 punchthroughs about 2 years ago he has since changed the set-up now to be JTG :wink:

I love to go help people with their poor installations cause there are so many of them. You are one of the few to research

[WaltBurkett]

Never did I suggest my systems would be average Joe, probably far from it. Does average Joe have a BMW M3 with its own dedicated Blinder and V1 and have a BMW K1200S with its own dedicated Blinder and V1?

As I mentioned before I needed the 3rd head per the Blinder instructions irt my installation. I have been upfront about having a 3rd head and no plate from the beginning.

In fact, I am going to install a second head on my K1200s and elevate it to counter the nose dive that blanks out the first head. That's probably not an average Joe installation either.

Next will be Veil. over kill? Yea, it probably is but as you figured out I am not average Joe.

Re installation:

I have not heard a lot of good stories about "professional" installations. Doesn't matter though I knew I would be a much better job myself.


Walt

PS: I spent an hour on the phone with Blinder Dude prior to purchasing, discussing installation and performance. After my install I contacted Outrun and asked if he would help me test it. We made numerous runs. I got a chance to shoot my M3 myself multiple times and was very satisfied with the results. I also stated it was against the Pro Laser 3. (Widely used here in the DFW area). I will get a chance to test against an LT1 soon. Hopefully I will get good results with that also. But, I don’t know and will guess.

[ahmadr]

I don't see what is the problem of testing with 2 heads. Especially since you don't have a front plate. If it gets good results, everyone will be happy. It shouldn't get any worse than a single head, right?

[WaltBurkett]

Ok here it is again. The two heads are located too far apart to cover the middle. Blinder says the two should not be farther than 50-60 CM. With out the middle head they are much farther then 60CM.

If I blank out the center head and the aim point is either headlight you get what you get now. If I blank out the center head and you aim at the center maybe there is adequate coverage, maybe not. Either way without the center head the install is not in compliance with the maximum spacing, per Blinder, so what would be the point?

Again I was not testing for GOL, Blinder or anyone else’s benefit. I simply waned to verify to me that I had real world protection, at least against the Pro Laser 3. (Widely used in DFW area) I’ll run against an LT1 next time.

I am not selling Binders nor interested in testing multiple configurations. The Blinder M15/25/35/45 may not be the best. I don’t know. I’m just giving this forum a data point as to how it performed for me on my vehicles with my installation against a Pro Laser 3 that I was able to operate as well as Outrun. Personally I don’t care if you buy a Blinder or not. I certainly would not make any decision to purchase on what I have said. I’m not giving advice, simply documenting what I did.

I have been very forthcoming and have no agenda. I bought Blinder because I read about it somewhere and thought I would give it a try. So far, I am very happy with the M25 version of it. If I become unhappy I will simply remove it and put something else in. If I want a product not sold in the US I can easily fly there and pick it up myself.

As I said, so far I am happy with what I have and it works for me.

It’s that simple.

Walt



"I don't see what is the problem of testing with 2 heads. Especially since you don't have a front plate. If it gets good results, everyone will be happy. It shouldn't get any worse than a single head, right?"

[ahmadr]

If I blank out the center head and you aim at the center maybe there is adequate coverage, maybe not.

That's what everyone is eager to find out :)
If it is, good for blinder. If not, it is out of spec anyway.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

If I blank out the center head and you aim at the center maybe there is adequate coverage, maybe not.

That's what everyone is eager to find out :)
If it is, good for blinder. If not, it is out of spec anyway.I see your reason that you just don't want to change you set-up cause you put alot of work into the install. Maybe Outrun has an extra M25 or could get his hands on one and do a mock up installation with the M25....but i doubt you'd want to do that to your car :wink:

[BossMan4Life]

I bought a ProLaser 3 from PBelectronics(Paul is a really cool guy.) With the blinder M25 I bought from outrun I'll be doing some IR jammer testing. My question to you is how many runs do you want to see and what should I target at? I will have a license plate.

I thought the starter of this thread was gonna post pictures/video of his equipment. I knew you were lying, bluffing, and basically full of $hit!! Than's why I didn't vote on your BS poll. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[outrun]

Yeah, where is it?

[Suf Daddy]

Somebody got back on topic.

Where are the pictures of the Pro III and the install / testing which this thread was start for?

-Suf Daddy