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TSi+WRX
08-04-2008, 12:06 PM
OK, so I've tried reading through the past thread, I can't find much info......

The TruSpeed has been said, here, to offer less beam-divergence (2.5 millirands) as well as is has lower power output than the current LTI lineup.

I was able to find, through past posts as well as a general Google search, that current LTI products in active enforcement (to thus include the Marksman 20-20) come in with beam-divergence quoted at between 3 to 3.5 millirands, but I'm failing in efforts to search up anything of this nature about the 200 models.

Any help in this first regard would be much appreciated.

Similarly, I have not been able to search up anything about the power output of these various models...again, any help would be much appreciated.

:o

jimbonzzz
08-04-2008, 12:19 PM
Here's a calibration cert with avg power specs.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3317/certgo6.jpg

The "200" models should not be any different at all from "100" models. The only difference in the "200" models is a built-in inclinometer, otherwise they are exactly the same as "100's".

TSi+WRX
08-04-2008, 12:31 PM
Thank you!
:D

interceptor
08-04-2008, 02:36 PM
There is realy NOTHING special about TS... LTI like all others... :-)

eire05
08-04-2008, 02:40 PM
There is realy NOTHING special about TS... LTI like all others... :-)

Good to know.... Are we likely to see TS in europe Ivan????

Suf Daddy
08-04-2008, 11:07 PM
The Prof beat me to it.
-Suf


Here's a calibration cert with avg power specs.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3317/certgo6.jpg

The "200" models should not be any different at all from "100" models. The only difference in the "200" models is a built-in inclinometer, otherwise they are exactly the same as "100's".

interceptor
08-05-2008, 06:11 AM
I am sure we will see it in Europe, there is many LTI`s around here... Also one of CEO`s form LTI is from Montenegro... :-) so i am quite sure TS will hit europe streets also... on the other hand it is also possible that Traffipatrol XR will hit USA streets...

TSi+WRX
08-05-2008, 06:56 AM
^ I hope the latter will not come to-bear.

Again, thanks, all, for your inputs! :)

Laser-InterceptorUSA
08-05-2008, 08:13 AM
^ I hope the latter will not come to-bear.

Again, thanks, all, for your inputs! :)


Not to worry Allen! LI will JTFG XR with Ver.7.xx or later software and Ver. 8.2 or later sensors! :D (edit) :o

Cliff - C63

TSi+WRX
08-05-2008, 09:37 AM
^ Oh, I know - I'm not worried for me :) .... I'm just worried for our fellow motorists. :)

christosxo
08-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Not to worry Allen! LI will JTFG XR with Ver.7.xx or later software and Ver. 8.2 or later sensors! :D (edit) :o

Cliff - C63

Hi Cliff

LI can JTFG XR with CPU Ver.7.0 and later and heads Ver.8.2 and later. Both heads should have a version that support the XR so the LI can jam it perfect.

BlinderGuy
08-05-2008, 01:24 PM
How do you know what version cpu and heads you have?

interceptor
08-05-2008, 01:28 PM
there is sticker on them...

If not, there is software to read it..

BlinderGuy
08-05-2008, 03:18 PM
I'll hook it up to LI software tonight..Will that tell me?

Laser-InterceptorUSA
08-05-2008, 03:23 PM
Here are the CPU and Sensor Versions and their respective improvements:

CPU Versions:

6.09: The 07 GOL version
6.12: The VPR LIDAR capability
6.14: Stalker (new model >2004) eliminated E-04 code
6.15 > 6.20: Stalker (old model <2004) further tuned for perfection, i.e E-04 further reduced.

7.00-7.03: TrafficPatrol XR EURO LIDAR Jamming enabled
7.04 Riegl FG21P EURO LIDAR Jamming enabled
7.05 TruSpeed Jamming Enabled

Sensor Versions:

8.0, 8.1. 8.2: Original Versions
8.5: XR Enabled with Updated Sensor Assembly Method

*XR - Jamming enabled requires Sensor hardware modification, thus 8.5.


Cliff - C55

Tambourine-Man
08-05-2008, 05:56 PM
You forgot 7.05 0 TruSpeed jamming enabled

Asleeper
08-05-2008, 09:17 PM
Are the software updates/control boxes with the truspeed fix available yet?

Laser-InterceptorUSA
08-06-2008, 03:58 AM
Not yet but shortly. Watch the LI Users Forum for an announcement.

Cliff - C55

KnightHawk
08-06-2008, 06:44 AM
Here's a calibration cert with avg power specs.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3317/certgo6.jpg

The "200" models should not be any different at all from "100" models. The only difference in the "200" models is a built-in inclinometer, otherwise they are exactly the same as "100's". Jim, was the TS tested vs the LI during GOL's recent testing?

ahmadr
08-06-2008, 09:22 AM
There is realy NOTHING special about TS... LTI like all others... :-)

So I would read this as the truspeed does NOT use a variable pulse rate (e.g. Rigel)

BTW is it 100 pps or 125pps (or neither)?

Laser-InterceptorUSA
08-06-2008, 10:43 AM
So I would read this as the truspeed does NOT use a variable pulse rate (e.g. Rigel)

BTW is it 100 pps or 125pps (or neither)?

It is not a VPR! The pps is secret!

Cliff - C55

interceptor
08-06-2008, 11:12 AM
i can not help it but to give out a small hint for enthusiast comunity... pps is in Khz range ! :-)

Ovencleaner
08-06-2008, 11:39 AM
i can not help it but to give out a small hint for enthusiast comunity... pps is in Khz range ! :-)

:eek:

Wow... an american gun actually got past 380HZ?

****.... I wonder if my current laser jammer has a fast enough CPU to handle this pulse rate!

Then again, HPD allready stocked out with Pro Laser 3's.... So maybe I have nothing to worry about...

Laser-InterceptorUSA
08-06-2008, 11:58 AM
:eek:

Wow... an american gun actually got past 380HZ?


Who said it was an "American" gun? ;)

Cliff - C55

Ovencleaner
08-06-2008, 12:00 PM
Who said it was an "American" gun? ;)

Cliff - C55

Corporate Headquarters:

Laser Technology, Inc.
7070 S. Tucson Way
Centennial, Colorado 80112 USA


I guess the could have outsourced design to cut costs?

Laser-InterceptorUSA
08-06-2008, 12:16 PM
Sorry! My mistake I guess!

Cliff - C55

YTCD
08-06-2008, 12:17 PM
so my new blinder m25 needs an update? for this gun? what is it? i understand it has a new pulse rate but

Ovencleaner
08-06-2008, 12:19 PM
so my new blinder m25 needs an update? for this gun? what is it? i understand it has a new pulse rate but

Blinder is not updatable. If it cannot jam it(Which remains to be seen), you will need a new jammer.

Laser Mask, Blinders now main competitor(In the price range), Is, but it remains to be seen if/when they will update for this gun, assuming the CPU is fast enough.

computerpro3
08-12-2008, 01:43 PM
Anyone actually seen one of these things in use yet? Got a road trip from CT to ohio coming up in two weeks and want to know if I have to be worried about these things.

Laser-InterceptorUSA
08-12-2008, 01:46 PM
They are confirmed in use in CT!

Cliff - C55

BlinderGuy
08-12-2008, 02:03 PM
Blinder is not updatable. If it cannot jam it(Which remains to be seen), you will need a new jammer.

Laser Mask, Blinders now main competitor(In the price range), Is, but it remains to be seen if/when they will update for this gun, assuming the CPU is fast enough.

It is fast enough!...Trust me!

BlinderGuy
08-12-2008, 02:10 PM
I also got more info on how update will work. LaserMask is a multiple cpu system. A 2 head system has 3 cpu. One in control box and one in each head. The way it works is the cpu in the heads actually hold all the software and the cpu in the control box is used to sinc all heads together. If one head is hit it sends message to control box telling it what pulse rate to use for other heads. So to upgrade you actually send in the heads and the are updated with new sofware and sent back....Thanks

TSi+WRX
08-13-2008, 07:59 AM
^ The only thing I don't like about that is that the heads will have to be swapped out, too.

That's going to be labor intensive....

I know that the XR upgrade on the LI also entailed this particular need, but that's, so far, been a one-time need.

With the Laser Mask, my hope is that they will eventually be able to implement a technical setup where only the control-box needs to be swapped-out/updated, leaving heads in-situ, or, alternatively, come up with a method by which the heads can *easily* be swapped out, yet retain sufficient mounting stability as well as weathersealing at the (likely scenario) more proximal (to the head itself) connector.

BlinderGuy
08-13-2008, 08:13 AM
I can understand it being labor intensive but I myself think it is worth it since the upgrades are "FREE".

TSi+WRX
08-13-2008, 08:20 AM
^ "Free" is always good, no doubt about that.

Please don't see my post as being a complaint - it's more a lament, and also a hope to spur further development of the Mask so as to be of more benefit to the end user (more user-friendly), which, in-turn, will drive sales. :)

I do think that the LaserMask appeals to those with more budgetary limitations - and that those individuals are also more likely to be DIYers, and thus, hopefully, may not see this labor point as being too, too bad.

I know that on my vehicle, I can literally rip off a head in a matter of minutes, with minimal fuss. :lol: But for those who pay for professional installation....that's going to add up.

It would be something for the engineering team to work towards.

BlinderGuy
08-13-2008, 08:25 AM
^ "Free" is always good, no doubt about that.

Please don't see my post as being a complaint - it's more a lament, and also a hope to spur further development of the Mask so as to be of more benefit to the end user (more user-friendly), which, in-turn, will drive sales. :)

I do think that the LaserMask appeals to those with more budgetary limitations - and that those individuals are also more likely to be DIYers, and thus, hopefully, may not see this labor point as being too, too bad.

I know that on my vehicle, I can literally rip off a head in a matter of minutes, with minimal fuss. :lol: But for those who pay for professional installation....that's going to add up.

It would be something for the engineering team to work towards.
Point Taken...Thanks

focalcivic
08-13-2008, 11:49 AM
This brings up a good point that the heads should have a sub connector that you can quick disconnect, so you will not have to go back through the firewall to disconnect them. I am thinking on the lines a coupler and say two more RJ connections for each wire, and then a waterproof box to protect them or something along those lines.

TSi+WRX
08-13-2008, 12:21 PM
^ When this was proposed on the LI Forums, the technical staff there responded with a good concern:

The additional connection will make troubleshooting more difficult - it adds just that one more possibility. Similarly, it adds one more point of potential failure.

But with a system in which the head itself MUST be routinely upgraded, though, such as what LaserMask is proposing, I think that such shortcomings must be a matter of compromise, as it's really the only way to do it so as to facilitate the "routine" need to upgrade.

Ovencleaner
08-13-2008, 01:50 PM
An optimal design is as follows:

1. Encrypted Software in the control Box.
2. All heads start up, download software from control box into RAM, or some non permanent storage.
3. The software is then locally decrypted.
4. The jammer is ready to go, and can communicate head to head as needed via the control box, while remaining independent.

Not that I mind sending in all of my heads, it does not take me much time... I have it all organized to where I just pop my hood, unplug the cables from the cbox, and pop em off the mounting tape. I can always redo that.

interceptor
08-13-2008, 04:47 PM
i agree... only problem is that in this scenario you are running windows machine on p4@3,2Ghz to acomplish this... :-)

just a joke... :-)

TSi+WRX
08-14-2008, 06:12 AM
^ Great, then we either have to put up with the quirks of Vista, or "the blue screen of death" with previous Windows versions! :eek::rolleyes::p:) :lol:

Ovencleaner
08-15-2008, 12:37 PM
i agree... only problem is that in this scenario you are running windows machine on p4@3,2Ghz to acomplish this... :-)

just a joke... :-)


Actually on the contrary Ivan,

I am running Linux on an AMD Opteron 2.2 ghz 8 core system with 8 gigs of ram... ;)

About to add 2 more procs for a total of 16 cores...

alpinestars_2002795
12-10-2008, 03:28 PM
The pps is secret!

Cliff - C55


BIG LOL we'll see how long that last's. As soon as I get mine i'm posting the PPS.


AlPiNe~;)

crazyVOLVOrob
03-20-2009, 05:00 PM
BIG LOL we'll see how long that last's. As soon as I get mine i'm posting the PPS.


AlPiNe~;)
So whats the PPS Alpine?:confused:

speed-dreams
03-20-2009, 06:01 PM
There is realy NOTHING special about TS... LTI like all others... :-)
That's what I've been saying, the TS is overrated...

speed-dreams
03-20-2009, 06:05 PM
EDITED

speed-dreams
03-20-2009, 06:10 PM
EDITED

Ripper238
03-20-2009, 06:48 PM
Is it over rated?

speed-dreams
03-21-2009, 01:15 AM
Is it over rated?
Meaning it's hyped up... it's not a hard gun to jam in my own experience...

Just1n
03-21-2009, 05:23 AM
Meaning it's hyped up... it's not a hard gun to jam in my own experience...

US version isn't hard to jam, but the Euro version is a little punk.

TSi+WRX
03-23-2009, 07:37 AM
^ I think that's very well-put. :)