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djrams80
10-04-2008, 05:02 PM
Well, much thanks to RacerX again, we did another round of laser jammer testing on my setup. We didn't take down any official readings or anything, but here's a basic summary of what we saw:

1. The ZR4s didn't seem to cause any interference with my LIs whatsoever. They didn't seem to help much either. The results I got were basically no better or no worse with the LIs or with both set of jammers running at the same time.

2. Stalker - This gun likes my car for some unknown reason. Maybe my foglights? :dontknow: We were surprisingly able to get PT on both center mass and edge shots, both front and back. Although most of the readings were 250ft and less and would still have given me plenty of time to slow down in real world situations, but some were from further out, from basically random distances. I have never seen this gun in the wild, but it looks like a can of G4 is in my future, just in case.

3. PLII - The PLII was able to get a few edge shot readings from very close range, but basically my setup is JTFG against this gun. My brother and I basically got the same results last week against a different PLII, except that the rear of my car is now also JFG following the leveling and adjustments that were done on Friday.

4. Markman - I don't think there were any PTs from this gun. Total JTFG.

5. PLIII - I don't think there were any PTs from this gun either. Total JTFG.

On a side note, I shot RacerX's truck with the Stalker with no jammers on and it didn't even start to get clicks until about 500ft. I started to get distance readings at about 400ft and got PT at 141ft. Ridiculous! :rolleyes: Sorry happya$$, but that's some serious stealthnicity! :D

Thanks again RacerX. Much appreciated! :beer:

ELVATO
10-04-2008, 05:39 PM
I wish I was as stealth as Don :lol:

Good stuff. :)

crazyVOLVOrob
10-04-2008, 05:49 PM
2. Stalker - This gun likes my car for some unknown reason. Maybe my foglights? :dontknow: We were surprisingly able to get PT on both center mass and edge shots, both front and back. Although most of the readings were 250ft and less and would still have given me plenty of time to slow down in real world situations, but some were from further out, from basically random distances. I have never seen this gun in the wild, but it looks like a can of G4 is in my future, just in case.
If there is something reflective on the front of your car the stalker LZ1 will eat it up. I ate up Pmoth's Evo with the stalker when I focused on aiming at his licence plate

Best thing for added Stalker protection is VEIL. Veil has been eating stalkers alive since its g2 version

rsatmans
10-04-2008, 06:14 PM
Rob Nice Picture :D. Glad to see testing for this type of setup. So DJ the ZR4 add no extra protection for the PL2?

RacerX
10-04-2008, 07:48 PM
yeah it was good testing,
anytime. :)

that pretty much summed it up.

overall his setup is pretty tight. a few things with the Stalker, but still would be fine real world.


i'll take a 141' PT on a base run any day with my truck. :)


on somewhat of a side note, i don't think the usual thought of white and silver cars are easy to get and dark cars hard is really valid. i had many white and silver cars that were much harder to get than some darker vehicles against several different guns.

i managed to pick of a car at around 4800' to the rear with the Pl3. some fair traffic but a good course.

thestaton
10-04-2008, 08:12 PM
What? The ZR4's didn't help any??? But they have double pulse mega 9 protection. Was Don sporting any of his special headlight elixir? Probably shouldn't have brought up HappyA$$ because he will now come in and high jack this thread with a bunch of drama.

happya$$
10-04-2008, 08:33 PM
DJ must have Parkinson's. It is amazing that every time someone shoots your truck they happen to shake like Muhamed Ali

crazyVOLVOrob
10-04-2008, 09:51 PM
DJ must have Parkinson's. It is amazing that every time someone shoots your truck they happen to shake like Muhamed Ali
You couldn't do better yourself I have seen it with my own 2 eyes

WK446
10-05-2008, 10:59 AM
Without giving away any trade secrets, but what makes the truck so stealthy? :confused:

RacerX
10-05-2008, 11:05 AM
You couldn't do better yourself I have seen it with my own 2 eyes



:lol:
yeah, let's take a look at "Happy Ali".
HAPPY ALI (http://www.donspc.com/vidpics/GOLhappysm.wmv)

RacerX
10-05-2008, 11:07 AM
Without giving away any trade secrets, but what makes the truck so stealthy? :confused:

Lots of trial and error, testing, stealth coatings, bra, aftermarket headlights, etc.. :)

TSi+WRX
10-05-2008, 11:51 AM
on somewhat of a side note, i don't think the usual thought of white and silver cars are easy to get and dark cars hard is really valid. i had many white and silver cars that were much harder to get than some darker vehicles against several different guns.

Indeed, perhaps what we originally thought was a color/paint effect, is much more than that.

I do think that the paint color/finish does have some impacts, but I think that *where* the paintwork is also drastically impacts this equation, just as what's seen with dj's large, round, parabolic reflector front driving lamps, and what cVr stated with the front plate and other reflective surfaces being a beacon for the Stalker.

This concern might be multifactorial - instead of the single-variable that we'd all thought prior.



i managed to pick of a car at around 4800' to the rear with the Pl3. some fair traffic but a good course.

Holy marksmanship! :eek:

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Good stuff, dj and RacerX ! :D

RacerX
10-05-2008, 12:13 PM
yeah, in fact i don't remember which gun it was, but hitting several different vehicles, a light colored PT cruiser came by and i picked him off around 400' further than other vehicles.

also there were several white and silver cars that took longer to get readings on than some darker cars.
there was one white SUV, looked like an xterra, it had a black bumper and it took a while to get a reading on it compared to other cars and i thought it might have something on it at first, but i looked and it didn't.

you're right, color can play a factor, but like you said where the color is, as in shape and style of vehicle can make a huge difference sometimes.

which is good for all of us, since there are so many variables with laser that we don't see with radar, the wise use of a jammer can easily be done without drawing suspicion.


i was able to pick off several cars at over 3000' to the rear, to the front around 2400-2800 was about the best i could do. i still have a theory as to why, but i need to find a way to test it first.

WK446
10-05-2008, 12:55 PM
Thank you. The time invested is worth it. I'm in awe... May I ask what color your truck is RacerX?


Lots of trial and error, testing, stealth coatings, bra, aftermarket headlights, etc.. :)

WK446
10-05-2008, 12:58 PM
I find this very intriguing. Perhaps it's due to the fact I've only owned whited colored cars...

I always learn so much from these forums. Kudos to all of you folks sharing your tips, time, knowledge, and most importantly, your expenses out of pocket... :thumb2:


on somewhat of a side note, i don't think the usual thought of white and silver cars are easy to get and dark cars hard is really valid. i had many white and silver cars that were much harder to get than some darker vehicles against several different guns.

i managed to pick of a car at around 4800' to the rear with the Pl3. some fair traffic but a good course.