Languy 2009 Summer Invitational [Archive] - Radar Detector Jammer Forum

languy99

06-11-2009, 12:15 PM

OK guys I decided to start a new thread so that it does not get mixed up with last years event. I am working on the flyer right now. Cat4, let me know on that truspeed and stalker and nma pm on seeing what you can hook me up with.

Thanks guys

Languy99
REBinc
FoolishOne (only attend if after 7/13)
Category4

I have a laser atlanta and a pro laser 3. I might be able to get a truspeed and a stalker ka radar gun.

EDIT: also guys let me know what countermeasures you are bringing.

proudNMAmember

06-11-2009, 05:04 PM

Will Jimbonzz "the professor" be attending the event? I would feel better if Jim was there. We have some gadget items to go over anyway.:)

FoolishOne

06-11-2009, 05:17 PM

EDIT: also guys let me know what countermeasures you are bringing.
V1 and my eyes.

category4

06-11-2009, 05:20 PM

I will have a quad LI, MEM-TEK modified ZR4's on the 9500ci and a V1.

I should have a Blinder M27 by then and if I have not installed it on the truck we can mount it there on a vehicle and test it out.

languy99

06-11-2009, 05:28 PM

I don't know nma, I have not heard anything from him.

languy99

06-11-2009, 07:59 PM

I have pushed the test back to the end of July, that will give me enough time to get everything set (get equipment) and enough time for people to request time off. It will also give me enough time to scout locations.

The location will be around the Lansing area. The official location is not yet set and it will also only be revealed to those confirmed attending so we don't have any unexpected visitors. :D

REBinc

06-11-2009, 08:20 PM

I have; V1 (3.863 IIRC), 9500ci, LI, and a sexy GTO.

For testing purposes, only the V1 would be available seperate from my car, the 9500ci and LI are entrenched in my car's internels.

If we're going late July, 7/25 should work for me.

FoolishOne

06-11-2009, 10:11 PM

Ohh....I like the later date!

languy99

06-11-2009, 11:04 PM

Well then I shall make it official.

The date shall be

July 25 - 26, 2009 :)

crazyVOLVOrob

06-12-2009, 11:12 AM

What state will this event take place in?

languy99

06-12-2009, 12:01 PM

Michigan

spider_55

06-12-2009, 04:55 PM

Well then I shall make it official.

The date shall be

July 25 - 26, 2009 :)

Can't make that date. Oh well.... Please let me know if it changes or if you have another one later in the year.

STi-R and dual LI

proudNMAmember

06-13-2009, 05:44 AM

How many people old and new want to come to the event?

FoolishOne

06-13-2009, 05:17 PM

*raises hand*

category4

06-13-2009, 05:23 PM

I'll be there!

happya$$

06-13-2009, 06:33 PM

hell I might come too

languy99

06-13-2009, 06:36 PM

why not, the more the merrier :)

category4

06-13-2009, 06:43 PM

The Truspeed and 35.5 Ka gun are available for the event if you need them.

languy99

06-13-2009, 07:09 PM

@cat4 great, yeah bring them. I'll add it to my list of available equipment.

Hey, nma what are you bringing if you can come?

newkid

06-13-2009, 08:17 PM

Sounds like a great event languy99.... Just wondering are the dates set in stone :D

languy99

06-13-2009, 09:08 PM

yes they are, they have been moved around too much already. :p

newkid

06-13-2009, 09:12 PM

Fair enough.... I have few things going on that weekened... I will try to make some shifts to my sch. and visit the event.

Aoshi

06-14-2009, 09:38 AM

Looks do-able.... only 4 hours away this time. :)

I'll be bringing my old car - same as last year.

STi-R and LI 7.06

category4

06-14-2009, 11:35 AM

My LI's should have the newest CPU 7.11 I believe.

proudNMAmember

06-15-2009, 04:51 AM

Languy and I met up yesterday to check out 5 possible sites. We are still working on finding a site guys.

category4

06-15-2009, 05:17 PM

OK, I got the days off. Driving up on Thursday, play some golf Friday, play with the toys on Sat. and Sun. Drive home on Monday!

noTe

06-15-2009, 06:02 PM

Where would this be in Michigan?

If it's not too far from Ohio and in Southern Michigan.... I will attend

category4

06-15-2009, 06:18 PM

Where would this be in Michigan?

If it's not too far from Ohio and in Southern Michigan.... I will attend

I think he said it would be in the Lansing area.

REBinc

06-15-2009, 09:55 PM

OK, I got the days off. Driving up on Thursday, play some golf Friday, play with the toys on Sat. and Sun. Drive home on Monday!

I want to have your job when I grow up, lol

speed-dreams

06-16-2009, 06:51 AM

My LI's should have the newest CPU 7.11 I believe.
I thought the lastest was 7.09:confused:

category4

06-16-2009, 09:50 AM

My LI's should have the newest CPU 7.11 I believe.
I thought the lastest was 7.09:confused:

LI is making me a anti-rsatmans CPU version 7.11!

No I think 7.11 is the latest as of this week.

I will have a set of the HP LI's also for the test. Take that Rsatmans, no more PT's for you!

languy99

06-16-2009, 04:30 PM

I should have a M47 on my car by then...... :p :eek:

noTe

06-16-2009, 04:36 PM

I should have a M47 on my car by then...... :p :eek:

So Lansing area?

I'd like to test out my TrueSpeed LI, front and rear setup.

languy99

06-16-2009, 04:38 PM

It will be around the Lansing area that's for sure. This weekend I will go look for more suitable areas.

trailtow

06-16-2009, 04:42 PM

here is a great spot no cops
120 W Michigan Ave
Lansing, MI 48933:D

category4

06-16-2009, 05:53 PM

I should have a M47 on my car by then...... :p :eek:

If not I will have the M27 we can try on someone's car for testing purposes.

proudNMAmember

06-17-2009, 08:01 PM

Sorry guys, Languy and myself have been busy. A location should be available very shortly.

REBinc

06-21-2009, 10:09 PM

I think I'll be spending the night at MSU, how close are we going to be to the campus?

category4

06-25-2009, 06:50 AM

Is everything still a go for the lat weekend in July? I need to make plane reservations for Fiance, so I kinda want to make sure before I spend the $.

Thanks guys.

REBinc

07-06-2009, 09:29 PM

Don't leave us hanging. I will be in MI regardless now, so this better happen!

languy99

07-06-2009, 09:49 PM

it will happen don't worry. I have had a nasty week, I have and still am sick (have to go to the doctor tomorrow) and am working about 60 hours a week. I plan this weekend to find a suitable location.

lolfun12

07-12-2009, 12:09 AM

My plans just got switched around so i'll be able to make it.

I got an LI Quad and a V1. I live around Canton MI.

languy99

07-12-2009, 07:51 AM

good to hear.

lolfun12

07-12-2009, 09:53 AM

July 25 and 26 are final? and location?

I might only be able to make it one of the days, but hopefully we can get my setup tested :).

languy99

07-12-2009, 05:52 PM

date is final location is yet to be determined. Still trying to work on it. :rolleyes:

robcollins5

07-19-2009, 03:14 PM

I can only make it Saturday, but please PM me with the location as well! I'll be bringing a V1 3.789, applied Veil G4, and POSSIBLY a M27 all on a 2007 Honda Fit (Red). I'm excited to meet everyone!

rc

FoolishOne

07-20-2009, 08:10 AM

So we still don't have a location yet? Lol

rocky2

07-20-2009, 12:11 PM

FoolishOne

07-20-2009, 05:07 PM

LG, should we be looking for PM's or a post here for the location?

languy99

07-20-2009, 08:14 PM

PM's, I am sick again, so I am trying my best guys. :(

REBinc

07-20-2009, 08:22 PM

I'm still coming!

Has GTO_04 said he's coming? send him a PM too.

noTe

07-20-2009, 08:33 PM

I'm still trying to decide if I want to come. I really don't feel like driving 3-4 hours... haha.

GTO_04

07-20-2009, 08:36 PM

I'm still coming!

Has GTO_04 said he's coming? send him a PM too.

No, unfortunately I can't make it.:( At least there will be one GTO there to represent us. I was going to bring the G8 as it needs a road trip.

GTO_04

FoolishOne

07-20-2009, 08:56 PM

Another question...do we have a time....like 10am or something?

djrams80

07-20-2009, 09:25 PM

rocky2

07-21-2009, 05:56 AM

I can come on Sunday, I will bring my Mustang with Veil G4 and M-20's (don't Laugh), V1 (3.818), STI, 9500ix, X50 (S7), and Rx-65 (M4). Good Luck Rob on the M-27's I hope you get them they would be fun to test.Veil + M20s probably performs very well. Definitely not something anyone should laugh at. :dontknow:

Your right, I have never gotten a laser ticket with them on my car so I can't complain. I haven't ever had my system tested at a event so I am really interested in how they will preform in this scenario, compared to newer models of Laser jammers.

languy99

07-21-2009, 09:39 PM

Well I have finally decided on a location. I could not find anything suitable in my general area but found something 20 miles away north of a small town. Not a bad drive from lansing, about 30 minutes at most.

I would like to know what radar and lidar(guns) people can bring if any, especially NMA. I will also call him tomorrow.

Once I know what radar/lidar equipment we will have I will PM people attending with a link to download the document that has all of the info.

languy99

07-22-2009, 04:13 PM

Ok guys I need a final head count and also I need to know if anyone can bring a portable power unit with a cigarette adapter.

Looks like this:

http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/560558/3775994/0/1181277057/PORTABLE_POWER_STATION.jpg

FoolishOne

07-22-2009, 05:02 PM

I will be there. Mostly just to shoot some guns and see some people.

I'll bring my Valentine.

No go on the portable power unit. I have one in NJ, but not with me in MI. : (

(I also have a one of those folding plastic tables, maybe 5' by 30" wide, if you need it.)

proudNMAmember

07-22-2009, 05:51 PM

I can be there, but not sure on the time Saturday. Since I won't have anyone around to watch my dog (Basset Hound), I'll have to bring him w/ me so I hope that is ok. I have x,k,ka (34.7 handheld and 33.8 dash mount), Pro II, Two VG-2's (one regular, one super tuned by me), One Spectre II, many different rd's, Two Murs radios (Maxon) to use at the event, a cellphone jammer (if needed), a couple of police scanners, one Phantom RCD analog x and k band radar jammer, one portable power (my backup porta power broke), and many other things. Rd's Three Bel STi's (one w/ old ramp up, two w/ new ramp ups), Three V1's (two 3.826 and one 3.872), One X50 Rev 5, One 8500 Rev 15, One 9500i, One Bel GX65, One Whistler Pro 78 Rev C, One Whistler Pro 58, One Whistler 1788 Cordless, One Whistler 1595SE. One Bel 970 (not working right, and some Cobras that don't get used very often. Sorry about late notice as I have been so busy, that it really did slip my mind. Remember, we will need extra Portable Power units so if you have one, PLEASE BRING IT! I live roughly 2 hours away from the testing site. (616) 826-1110. Mike:)

proudNMAmember

07-22-2009, 05:57 PM

here is what I have so far.

LANGUY 2009 SUMMER RADAR/LIDAR INVITATIONAL

DATE: JULY 25-26 10AM MEETING TIME BOTH DAYS
LOCATION: 43.087037,-84.176173 (HENDERSON PARK, NORTH OF OWOSSO Michigan)
SCHEDUAL: JULY 25 (SATURDAY)
RADAR DETECTOR TESTING
-LONG RANGE LOW POWER CONSTANT ON TESTING
-INSTANT ON TESTING
-POP TESTING?
-RDD LEAK TESTING
-OFF ANGLE TESTING
JULY 26 (SUDNAY)
-LIDAR TESTING
-LIDAR SETUP/INSTALLATION CONFIGURATION
OTHER:
I will be bringing my portable grill and a cooler with ice. I would like to know what people could bring. We will need meat, drinks, snacks, bread/buns, water, napkins, plastic utensils, paper plates, folding chairs, garbage bags, etc.

COMMUNICATIONS:
I will be on CB channel 3. Also my cell phone is 517-819-9128 if anyone needs to get a hold of me during the testing weekend.

languy99

07-22-2009, 06:01 PM

FoolishOne

07-22-2009, 07:02 PM

Put me down for soda (I have like 36 cans of Pepsi and 24 cans of MD that I'll bring if anyone wants them).

I'll bring my table in case we need some horizontal surface to put something on, besides the ground. I can grab some paper plates and plastic utentsils. (We're looking at how many people, like 6, or something?)

Just put my pooch down on Saturday, so I'd like to see some dogs if possible.

(I'm also going to see if I can steal some time for CB tuning as well. I'd like to see what it sounds like on another CB. Try and get my SWR's down.)

REBinc

07-22-2009, 07:23 PM

I am 100% there for the Laser on Sunday, and about 80% sure I'll be there for Saturday as well. Not quite sure what I can bring food wise, I don't have a big cooler or anything so I may just stop by a local grocery store.

I'd also like CB tuning, I've been bad and never SWR tuned mine.

noTe

07-22-2009, 07:32 PM

I'm really tempted to go Sunday now... hmmmm

languy99

07-22-2009, 08:02 PM

FoolishOne

07-22-2009, 08:12 PM

Holy crap! I didn't realize how close that was nor easy to get to! I'm gonna take Corruna Road to the middle of nowhere and make a right!

REBinc

07-22-2009, 08:34 PM

languy99

07-22-2009, 08:38 PM

I can finally see if my other CB is really transmitting off frequency like I think it is, so CB time will be good. It should be good fun and give us some time to relax, if anyone likes to fish the park is right by a river so bring your poles. ;)

EDIT: I guess NMA made the official announcement for me so there you go.

Why are the symptoms of transmitting off frequency?

While driving through the country I somehow landed on 95.7 on the stereo, and when I talked on my CB it came through my car speakers, I'm not sure what to make of it.

usually it is other people telly you that you sound bad or they can't understand you. Seeing as NMA will have his scanners there we can easily verify what frequency you are transmitting on and see if it needs to be sent in for a tune.

your symptoms actually sound like the CB overpowered the normal frequency and made it though to the radio. It tends to happen.

lolfun12

07-22-2009, 11:50 PM

I'll be coming on the laser day to test my setup. If there is any way we can do laser on Saturday that would be great, if not I'll have to switch some stuff around but w/e.

I got an explorer with LI Quad and V1.

proudNMAmember

07-23-2009, 02:40 AM

Rebinc, I have a SWR meter that I'll bring to tune your antenna. Remember, the only ka band I don't have is 35.5 (hardest to detect) so if someone could bring that, we would almost be all set. What is the word on anyone else having a portable power unit?

rocky2

07-23-2009, 11:16 AM

I will be there on Sunday to test out the Veil and M-20's. I can bring Chips and some soda. I will bring all the detectors I have anyway just in case wee do some RD testing on Sunday also.

REBinc

07-23-2009, 04:58 PM

One thing I would like to test:

http://www.rainx.com/images/bugspray_main.jpg

It's RainX bug and tar SHIELD. I used it on my trip to SC, seemed to do a decent job in regards to bugs. When I put it on, it made the entire front of the car have a matte finish, so I was wondering if itd have any effect on dampening lidar.

I also have easily removable grills to test the 9500ci open view vs concealed myths.

GTO_04

07-24-2009, 07:48 AM

We will figure it out, even if we don't do a ton of testing and all we do is hang out, I am still all for that. :) The weather looks good and I plan on bringing my portable grill and a cooler with ice. Let me know if you guys want to grill or go eat at a restaurant. Yeah bring the dog, I miss my dog that we had to put to sleep and I love playing with them. :p

Put me down for soda (I have like 36 cans of Pepsi and 24 cans of MD that I'll bring if anyone wants them).

I'll bring my table in case we need some horizontal surface to put something on, besides the ground. I can grab some paper plates and plastic utentsils. (We're looking at how many people, like 6, or something?)

Just put my pooch down on Saturday, so I'd like to see some dogs if possible.

(I'm also going to see if I can steal some time for CB tuning as well. I'd like to see what it sounds like on another CB. Try and get my SWR's down.)

This has been a rough year for our dogs! My Dalmatian is recovering from injuries sustained in an attack by another dog. She's going back to the vet today.

I am looking forward to seeing the test results, especially the RDD test with the 3.872!

GTO_04

REBinc

07-24-2009, 12:07 PM

I got the car all packed up and am leaving for MI after work.

I have:
roughly 8'x8' canopy, I have stakes I just need rope
1 chair
camera & tripod

FoolishOne

07-24-2009, 01:25 PM

I will bring one of those portable power units.

languy99

07-24-2009, 04:04 PM

I will bring one of those portable power units.

:dance3: Thank You

happya$$

07-24-2009, 04:18 PM

FoolishOne

07-24-2009, 08:34 PM

Bringing:

Table
Portable Power Unit
Video Camera
DSLR
V1
Sodas
Paper Plates

Girlfriend/fiance.

Cell phone is (973) 919-9251 if you need to get in contact with me (text or voice), you know in case there are police all over this place before I arrive...a warning text would be nice, or if you are going to randomly change the place. ;)

proudNMAmember

07-24-2009, 09:20 PM

Sorry for the late notice as I worked 13 hours today. And surprised to see I picked up laser while in the semi truck today w/ the V1. Yeah baby! Thanks FoolishOne for bringing all those items especially the portable power. I have mine charging up right now. Both of my Murs Radios should be charged by the morning. I just found my Original Escort x and k band radar detector that Mike Valentine was involved in making. I'll bring that too. I am busy getting packed for the event. The only radar again I won't have will be 35.5 and Pop more. I have 34.7 (newly acquired), 33.8, 3 k band radar guns, two x band radar guns (one is from the 1960's w/ an actual meter for the speed display, it drains portable powers so this one will have to be used in someone's vehicle while it is running, takes a lot of power, forgot to grab 2 c batteries for the k band bushnell. I don't have a case for my Stalker ATR which I am on the hunt for presently. So many detectors will be brought just so you know so we for sure won't be biased. I will bring my Cellphone jammer if anybody wants to check it. Languy informed me there is coverage w/ Verizon at the test site, but I need to find out if Sprint and Cingular also have coverage there too. I guess we'll find out tomorrow. Yes, I will bring my Spectre 2 along w/ 2 VG-2 Interceptor RDDs, one regular VG-2 and one "Super tuned" by myself. No I won't be bringing the semi, I will be in a small car just like Languy. Gotta run and thanks so much for everyone's support on this. In the end, we will all be smiling:). I also have a 3.872 V1 we can test out too. Charley my Basett Hound will be coming w/ me.
Mike (616) 826-1110 (Sprint)

Feel free to call myself (Mike) or Languy about anything involving the event.

proudNMAmember

07-24-2009, 09:21 PM

Thanks Rebinc and anyone else who decides to "surprise" Languy and myself.:)

Stealth Stalker

07-25-2009, 01:46 AM

Good luck this weekend, Guys! Sounds like a great weekend ahead of you! :rock:

FoolishOne

07-25-2009, 06:14 AM

If the weather decides to hold out...

REBinc

07-25-2009, 07:14 AM

I WILL be there, just maybe a little late. Leaving Rochester in a couple of minutes.

FoolishOne

07-25-2009, 08:22 AM

Umm...where is everyone? :confused:

I mean I know I got here at like 10:10am, but...

happya$$

07-25-2009, 08:51 AM

Umm...where is everyone? :confused:

I mean I know I got here at like 10:10am, but...

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

robcollins5

07-25-2009, 01:47 PM

I hope things went well today. Myself and Rocky are still planning on coming tomorrow. See you all there!

rc

languy99

07-25-2009, 06:41 PM

yup went ok, tested X band, extreme off axis K and KA 34.7. Long day, 10:30 am to 7:30pm. I just got home and I am exhaust. Tomorrow we are planning on KA 33.8 and laser. Also finishing up spectra testing.

You guys will have to wait for details from me on how the test setup was done and the results but we had some surprising results. :p :D

FoolishOne

07-25-2009, 08:46 PM

I am still LMAO at that Super Natural X50.

languy99

07-25-2009, 09:06 PM

we won't go there...... :p

lolfun12

07-25-2009, 09:13 PM

What time are you guys going to start laser?

I will be there tomorrow with LI Quad and V1. Hopefully I can get some feedback on the head placement and I can see some JTG and JFG with my car :D.

lolfun12

07-25-2009, 09:36 PM

Double post delete.

FoolishOne

07-25-2009, 09:46 PM

Probably about 10:30am.

Our format is, ummm.....very "loose", or maybe I should say not strict. If we see something outrageous or weird, someone will just pick up a detector and drive to the end of the course.

We can test your setup really anytime, but before lunch would be nice so that we have something to discuss over lunch. ;)

languy, I meant to take a picture or video of our extreme setup, because 450' (even that is just lucky blips) for the V1 would raise some eyebrows. Remind me to snap a pic.

FoolishOne

07-25-2009, 09:54 PM

YouTube - Languy 2009 Summer Invitational

lolfun12

07-25-2009, 10:00 PM

Sounds good. I'll be there around 10-10:30. If I can't get JTG and JFG hopefully you guys can help me out getting my setup level.

languy99

07-25-2009, 10:15 PM

noTe

07-25-2009, 11:14 PM

Weather says 30% chance of rain.

I guess I'll wake up at 5am and decide if I want to go. I really think it would suck ass to drive 5 hours and do testing in the rain...

GTO_04

07-26-2009, 12:40 AM

When I first looked at that video I thought there was hail falling!

GTO_04

Stealth Stalker

07-26-2009, 12:53 AM

We got just as wet in Houston, but it was sweat. :D

robcollins5

07-26-2009, 04:11 PM

Well I just got back to South Bend and am sitting in a hot boring office with no windows....the polar opposite to the fun in the sun that we had today! Meeting NMA, LAN, Reb, Fool, and lol was a lot of fun! The radar tests got finished up and the LIDAR shots went pretty well too, I'd say. Not sure if there's any "interesting" information or trends that came of it but we did a little scatter testing too...I eagerly await LAN's tabulations!

rc

FoolishOne

07-26-2009, 04:13 PM

We did some Spectre testing. Pro 78 seemed....okay. :D :lol:

That 78 0wn3d that Spectre.

languy99

07-26-2009, 04:37 PM

Just made it back, it was fun and interesting meeting new people. I will try to get those results up sometime this week, but as we all know I have a hectic schedule ;) so I will work on them as much as possible. Hope everyone makes it back safe and I think Monday I shall be sending in my V1 for the 33.8 problem on the front horn. :( I hope they can fix it without messing with anything else on it, seeing as it is a monster on the rest. :D

FoolishOne

07-26-2009, 04:59 PM

It was nice to put some faces to names. I think everyone had fun except for the "extras" REB and I brought, lol.

It can only get better from here. More people, more guns, more detectors, longer course, etc.

(Just for everyone's information...proud is NOT your typical fat, chain-smoking, foul-mouthed, racist semi driver. ;))

Stealth Stalker

07-26-2009, 05:03 PM

(Just for everyone's information...proud is NOT your typical fat, chain-smoking, foul-mouthed, racist semi driver. ;))
He's a disgrace to the profession!

robcollins5

07-26-2009, 05:20 PM

(Just for everyone's information...proud is NOT your typical fat, chain-smoking, foul-mouthed, racist semi driver. ;))
He's a disgrace to the profession!

Actually Stealth, you couldn't be more right so far as stereotypes go! He's the kind of guy that gives the whole lot of them a GOOD reputation. Unnerving, really.

rc

REBinc

07-26-2009, 08:31 PM

I made it back, some biker decided to have a meeting with the pavement causing a 23 mile back up on 94.

FoolishOne

07-26-2009, 09:10 PM

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FoolishOne

07-26-2009, 09:12 PM

Video of County Sheriff is coming...:D

Stealth Stalker

07-26-2009, 09:12 PM

That little hill crest at the far end of the course looks like it could yield some nasty PT on low mounted jammers.

REBinc

07-26-2009, 10:18 PM

Here's what I have from my car, Languy has the rest.

New Knowledge:
My CB peaked/tuned by Sparkys CB shop sounded pretty good even without any SWR tuning (got lost 3.5 miles away and could still talk with them on the CB).
The GTO honeycomb grill will effect Ka band for a remote radar unit mounted behind it, but no noticeable effect on K or X
ZR4 by itself or in combination with a LI will not allow a PLII to get any readings at any distance. (10+ runs Aiming all over the car, even had the front license plate on)
Even waiting to pull the trigger at less than 500ft the gun could still not get a reading.

Not New Knowledge:
Rear ZR4 sucks.

rocky2

07-27-2009, 06:19 AM

That little hill crest at the far end of the course looks like it could yield some nasty PT on low mounted jammers.

My Blinders are fairly low mounted and they gave sporadic performance, sometimes they could only get me at 190ft and sometimes they would get PT at 1100ft. LanGuy is going to do the calculations but the average for my car seemed to be PT at 400 ft. It was a fun day of testing really good to meet everyone, first time I ever shot a laser gun scary to see how far away I could get a reading on cars. The Spectre that ProundNMAmember had was also a pretty cool device my Whistler did really good against it. (good as in not detected at all)

antivirus6613

07-27-2009, 11:38 AM

Hey guys, this is lolfun's new sn.

To share my results. I have LI Quad with veritcal mounting alongside the license plate in the rear. I got JTG results but the rear was JFG only when plate was targeted. I have an explorer which has giant reflectors in the taillights causing PT's at <400 ft.

It was nice meeting you guys one more, and my cousins enjoyed tagging along as well.

Anything interesting happen after I left?

FoolishOne

07-27-2009, 12:47 PM

Anything interesting happen after I left?

Not really. A Sheriff "encounter", some Spectre 2 eyebrow raising, some rain, and an adorable hound with a tail shaped remarkably like a car door jamb.

PS: I don't know who you have to sleep/PM with, but you could have gotten your lol user name changed. Maybe would have helped in the post count area.

PSS: Nevermind. :)

languy99

07-27-2009, 08:10 PM

X-band results. They are going to be different then the rest because the antenna was aimed at a different angle but because of the hills it really cut down detection range.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2657/3763584841_1ccdbf14c8.jpg

EDIT: I forgot to add that when the 3.872 was tested the gun was in a different position. It was lower to the ground, so that is why you see the lower numbers.

GTO_04

07-28-2009, 08:17 PM

REBinc

07-28-2009, 09:20 PM

If you want to send me over the grill vs grill-less stuff I can make a nice chart for it.

antivirus6613

07-29-2009, 01:49 AM

I was thinking about what happened during the laser test of the front end of my car and I got to thinking. The first time we did the test it was jamming until I slowed down to around 20mph from 50 in front of the gun. Do you think in a real world situation if I was going 80 and I was targeted slowing down would reducing the effectiveness of the jammers making the LEO get a PT at a slightly lower speed.

Stealth Stalker

07-29-2009, 02:04 AM

There has been speculation on the so-called "nose down effect", which is when you decelerate so rapidly that your front end -- and thus your jammers -- point downwards, resulting in punchthrough. It has not been widely tested. However, those who have tested for it have not been able to make it happen. I maintain that it is a possible concern, along with many other factors, that can contribute to punchthrough. If you're running a weak jammer, or have a less than ideal install, then nosing down certainly isn't going to help you.

v1user

07-29-2009, 05:39 PM

PS: I don't know who you have to sleep/PM with, but you could have gotten your lol user name changed. Maybe would have helped in the post count area.

PSS: Nevermind. :)

Not to be a thread hijack, but really? I would like to change mine to something more original.

Stealth Stalker

07-29-2009, 06:54 PM

PS: I don't know who you have to sleep/PM with, but you could have gotten your lol user name changed. Maybe would have helped in the post count area.
Not to be a thread hijack, but really? I would like to change mine to something more original.
PM Jimbonzzz

languy99

07-29-2009, 09:20 PM

More results coming tomorrow guys, working on getting NMA's laptop in working condition for him. Sorry for the delay.

languy99

07-29-2009, 09:22 PM

double post

languy99

07-30-2009, 05:35 PM

ok here are the k-band results

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3591/3772887729_f318b0d7c7_b.jpg

GTO_04

07-30-2009, 07:18 PM

There was quite a bit of variation among the different V1 versions! I wish I could have been there with my V1.7 to see how it would do.

GTO_04

languy99

08-01-2009, 03:36 PM

33.8, 34.7 and spectra 2 results coming today. :D

languy99

08-01-2009, 10:28 PM

here is 33.8, 34.7 and spectre 2. I will not post the laser results becasue they have been beaten to death by everyone else. Also give me your guys opinions, my 3.684 did really poor on 33.8 but rocked out on everything else, should I send it in for a check up?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2514/3780231286_b9f79e24fd_b.jpg

happya$$

08-01-2009, 10:32 PM

As always the V1 is right up there! What an awesome piece of technology! 17 years later it still is going and going and going.........

FoolishOne

08-01-2009, 10:35 PM

1) Wasn't it a 3.864, not 3.684. :p

2) Isn't it Spectre? :p

EDIT: That 3.826 is an animal on 33.8. Hanging with the Godly ci.

languy99

08-01-2009, 10:42 PM

CRAP.....

EDIT: the reason I ask about my v1 is the on the rear antenna I got 800 feet, so the front antenna should be better.

EDIT2: Fixed

GTO_04

08-01-2009, 11:46 PM

here is 33.8, 34.7 and spectre 2. I will not post the laser results becasue they have been beaten to death by everyone else. Also give me your guys opinions, my 3.684 did really poor on 33.8 but rocked out on everything else, should I send it in for a check up?

V1 should pick up 33.8 almost as good as K band. There was a big gap from the CI and 3.826 to the rest of the field on 33.8. One of my V1s is a 3.826, so its performance is good to see!:D

Given that several other RDs had similar short range with 33.8, there may not be anything wrong with yours. 3.872 did even worse, especially with POP off! OTOH, you got drastically different results with the rear antenna. With on-axis Ka I get similar range with the front and rear antennas. But I do notice the rear antenna has better off-axis detection on Ka. I was told by Mike Valentine to expect the same K and Ka range on the front and rear antennas. To be on the safe side maybe you should have it checked.

How did the other V1s do on Ka with the rear antenna?

Were the CI and 3.826 tested first? The reason I ask is the possibility that something happened to the 33.8 radar that caused the range to drop on all the other RDs.

GTO_04

languy99

08-02-2009, 12:13 AM

here is 33.8, 34.7 and spectre 2. I will not post the laser results becasue they have been beaten to death by everyone else. Also give me your guys opinions, my 3.684 did really poor on 33.8 but rocked out on everything else, should I send it in for a check up?

V1 should pick up 33.8 almost as good as K band. There was a big gap from the CI and 3.826 to the rest of the field on 33.8. One of my V1s is a 3.826, so its performance is good to see!:D

Given that several other RDs had similar short range with 33.8, there may not be anything wrong with yours. 3.872 did even worse, especially with POP off! OTOH, you got drastically different results with the rear antenna. With on-axis Ka I get similar range with the front and rear antennas. But I do notice the rear antenna has better off-axis detection on Ka. I was told by Mike Valentine to expect the same K and Ka range on the front and rear antennas. To be on the safe side maybe you should have it checked.

How did the other V1s do on Ka with the rear antenna?

Were the CI and 3.826 tested first? The reason I ask is the possibility that something happened to the 33.8 radar that caused the range to drop on all the other RDs.

GTO_04

nope not tested first, actually right about in the middle. What really scares me about sending it in is that they might do something and I would lose all of awesome detection I am getting on the other bands.

languy99

08-02-2009, 07:08 PM

GTO_04

08-02-2009, 07:55 PM

well I decided to send it in, packed it up and dropped it off today. I hope to have it back by the end of next week. Right now I am stuck using my back up detector, the 955, boo. :( I'll let you guys know what VR says is wrong with it.

No harm sending it in. They won't make it any worse. Mike the tech will often call and tell you what they found wrong with it. They normally get it back to you within a week or so. I'm only one day away UPS ground though.

From the results it looked like several other RDs had off-axis issues on 33.8. But normally the V1 is very strong on 33.8, both on and off-axis.

GTO_04

languy99

08-02-2009, 08:12 PM

i included a detailed letter with it so I expect a call from someone. ;)

proudNMAmember

08-03-2009, 05:44 PM

Sorry it took me so long getting back to everyone. Computer is finally fixed extra special thanks to Languy. The testing we did was a lot of fun. The 9500ci performed very well. The different V1 versions had quite the differences on the different radar bands. After testing the 3.818,3.789,3.826,3.858,3.863,3.864, and 3.872, I was really shocked w/ my 3.872. I may send it back into VR w/ some harsh specific instructions on what needs to be done. There were 4 Bel STi's at the event. Now my X50 Rev 3 had some very different detection against off axis k band. One time 400 something feet, the next 600 something feet and the next 800 and something feet. And just to show everyone I wasn't lying I took the portable power and walked backwards away from the k band source w/ Languy walking next to me and got close to 500ft so yes that was weird, BUT WEIRD THINGS HAPPEN W/ THESE ELECTRONICS ALL THE TIME FOLKS! The Whistler Pro 78 warned me of the local county sherrif at the other end of the road. That was weird but at least the Pro 78 let me know he was there.:D I don't remember which test we were doing but on the 9500ci, REBinc was getting 1001 ft of detection but after I wiped off his diodes, he was getting 1215 ft of detection. So wiping off your detection diodes/lj diodes really does make a difference. It was nice to meet all that attended Saturday and Sunday events at Henderson park. Thank you so much for all the fun. Charley my dog had a blast! Languy and myself are going to finish up w/ some VG-2 Interceptor testing here in the next few weeks on a weekend. This shouldn't be too hard if the weather cooperates. Languy, I will see what I can do about your CB antenna setup. There has to be something wrong w/ that LittleWil. Hope to meet all of you and others again soon. Proud

FoolishOne

08-03-2009, 06:17 PM

Do you need a FCC license to operate a RDD? Are they Part 90?

proudNMAmember

08-03-2009, 06:22 PM

They are a Part 15, license free device. Part 90 licenses are hard to get.

languy99

08-03-2009, 06:28 PM

I see NMA you are really taking advantage of the fixed computer :D enjoy :cool:

proudNMAmember

08-03-2009, 06:29 PM

Also on the testing done, I was surprised when 33.8 NON POP radar gun extreme off axis was being run, that the 3.872 V1 picked it up quicker when POP mode was on as compared to POP mode being off by roughly 300-400ft. And on the same testing, I thought it was interesting while using the X50 Rev 3 that it picked up 33.8 quicker when POP was off as compared to POP being turned on by roughly 300-400ft. I am not sure which settings were on when the BEL STi's were being run but I think they performed well.

proudNMAmember

08-03-2009, 06:30 PM

Yes I am Languy.:D THANK YOU!

FoolishOne

08-03-2009, 06:31 PM

Languy, his computer doesn't seem to be working. He had to quickly write that giant paragraph before it crashed. :eek: :lol:

languy99

08-03-2009, 06:35 PM

just doing my job foolish, remember repeat customers.... :D

proudNMAmember

08-03-2009, 06:39 PM

LOL FoolishOne. Wow, it sure is overcast on this side of the state.:(

FoolishOne

08-03-2009, 06:55 PM

Looks like a beautiful night over yonder!

proudNMAmember

08-03-2009, 06:57 PM

Enjoy it and smile!:)

FoolishOne

08-03-2009, 07:00 PM

Hoping to get this short little video up within the next 15 minutes or so. We'll see how it turns out.

FoolishOne

08-03-2009, 07:22 PM

YouTube - Spectre 2 Testing - Languy 2009 Summer Invitational

category4

08-03-2009, 07:25 PM

Great video!

happya$$

08-03-2009, 07:42 PM

great job guys!

REBinc

08-03-2009, 08:15 PM

we need some GTO footage :)

FoolishOne

08-03-2009, 09:09 PM

Sorry, no GTO footage. : ( I'll chalk it up to it being my first meet and just wanting to hang out, not shoot video. Next time, I'll be sure to get some good shots.

When I finally got to the videos this afternoon, I was surprised at the utter lack of video I had. I had those 3 clips and the Early Warning vs. Spectre 2 that we picked up at the top of the far hill.

If you do an Indy or IL meet and greet of sorts, I'd be down for going down.

rocky2

08-04-2009, 02:47 PM

If you do an Indy or IL meet and greet of sorts, I'd be down for going down.[/QUOTE]

I definitely would go another meet in MI, IN, or IL.

proudNMAmember

08-04-2009, 05:31 PM

I wanted a meet up in Central Illinois so that St. Louis/Indianapolis/and Chicago folks could "all" come but that won't work "unfortunately". So let's see if we can find an Indiana location that is close to Illinois so there is a chance that St. Louis area folks will come. It would make me feel real good if Chicago/Indianapolis/St. Louis/Louisville/Milwaukee/Detroit/ and anywhere else could come. Rebinc, how many spots are there East of Alvin Illnois into Indiana?

robcollins5

08-11-2009, 01:49 PM

So let's see if we can find an Indiana location that is close to Illinois so there is a chance that St. Louis area folks will come.

Well, they don't call Indiana the "Crossroads of America" for nothing. It actually looks like Indianapolis would be fairly central for Chicago, St. Louis, Toledo, Dayton, Louisville, and Detroit area.

Depending on who expressed interest, the "Center Mass" would shift and we could find a new city/town. Depending on timing I'd be happy to go down a day ahead of everyone and scout out quality shooting locations.

If we all brought friends from our area hotel costs could be split, saving money. I could get my better half to clip coupons for everyone to eat cheap. Come on guys, lets make this work! ;)

rc

REBinc

08-11-2009, 06:05 PM

I would like some place in IN along 74, preferably around here:
40.17869,-87.322483 - Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=40.17869,-87.322483&sll=40.609782,-87.74231&sspn=2.418663,5.817261&ie=UTF8&ll=40.784701,-86.96228&spn=2.412323,5.817261&z=8)

Secondary location would be near West Lafayette.

That way I just stay in Champaign, or at Purdue.