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Mackid343
12-14-2005, 02:27 AM
i'm going to be purchasing a blinder soon and was wondering how much this setup would do in comparison to the typical m-20 installation. i am up against the Pro Laser III and the LTI ultralyte in wisconsin. i was thinking about getting an m-30 and mounting the heads like this:
http://bjorklundcentral.com/html/pictures/tn_HPIM5258_JPG.jpg

do you think this would help or would the typical installation give me excellent protection against these guns?
http://bjorklundcentral.com/html/pictures/tn_HPIM5258_JPG2.jpg

i have a lasershield and veil already, although i did not have them on when this picture was taken.

sethy
12-14-2005, 02:46 AM
Im not gonna lie, you would be better off and spending the extra 80 bucks for the m40. Against the ultralyte, that car is gonna be har dto stealth....

I would recommend this with the m40...

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6893/bkah7wo.jpg

If you are against the lti 20 20, this is a must.

its all or nothing against an LTI. If you had an m30, if they hit the headlights i bet you would be in serous trouble. I am also mentioning this because my mother has car liek this, and the front part has a lot of flat surface, which is bad for you! M40 is a must in my opinion...

Mackid343
12-14-2005, 03:00 AM
hmmm so am i back to waiting for the AL6? :D those air ducts are pretty small, my guess is the head would take up a good portion of it... plus, $600 is a lot of money for me so i don't know. what about the lidatek le30 dual or a different jammer? do you think i'd have better luck with that?

SmaartAasSaabr
12-14-2005, 11:33 AM
Those red lines are similar in size to Blinder heads IIRC.

Antilaser! Still talking about September?

Mackid343
12-14-2005, 04:18 PM
SmaartAasSaabr: yeah two more weeks, right? :lol: :lol: :wink:

Sethy, i talked to crazyVOLVOrob, and he said his lidatek le-30 dual has performed very well against the LTI ultralyte guns in NY. since i'll have to spend the money either way, i would like a smaller less consicuous system 1)becuase i dont want my parents to get suspicious of 4 black things on the front of my car and 2)i don't think its very easy to steal something like this, mostly becuase most people don't know what it is or that it even exists, but in that event, it would give me greater peace of mind having a smaller system. i dont think that many ultralytes are used close to where i live, but i know that if i travel to madison or down to chicago, there is a much greater chance of encountering it. from what i've heard from leepoffaith, its mostly the PLIII that's used in downtown milwaukee and the surrounding area when laser is ever used

SmaartAasSaabr
12-14-2005, 04:43 PM
PL3? Take a universal remote control tape it to the hood making sure to press a button at the same time you'll be fine/ :lol:

Mackid343
12-15-2005, 03:33 PM
well i measured the air ducts and the blinder would entirely block them, so i guess that option is out.... what about the lidatek? my guess is to mount the heads pretty far out to the sides where i would have had the m20 (not entirely, but close)

leepoffaith
12-17-2005, 01:30 PM
Are you sure that they would block the air ducts completely? The blinder heads are larger then the le-30 or the anti laser, but they arn't by any means big. I personally am in agreement with Sethy. The Blinder M-40 would cover you perfectly. If you haven't been hit with laser since September you don't need to rush out and buy a jammer so just save up and buy the m-40. You won't be disappointed. I LOVE my m-20. It has saved my butt many a time. I have my 2 jammer heads where you had originally positioned your first 2 and it seems to work very well. Unfortunatly for me I have no air duct to add 2 more jammer heads too.

A-TownNavi
12-17-2005, 04:47 PM
Are you sure that they would block the air ducts completely? The blinder heads are larger then the le-30 or the anti laser, but they arn't by any means big. I personally am in agreement with Sethy. The Blinder M-40 would cover you perfectly. If you haven't been hit with laser since September you don't need to rush out and buy a jammer so just save up and buy the m-40. You won't be disappointed. I LOVE my m-20. It has saved my butt many a time. I have my 2 jammer heads where you had originally positioned your first 2 and it seems to work very well. Unfortunatly for me I have no air duct to add 2 more jammer heads too.

thats what i was thinking. they shouldnt block em completely.

SmaartAasSaabr
12-17-2005, 04:58 PM
I wouldn't think it matters. The GA is more of a "bottom feeder", most the cooling air goes into the bottom of the bumper.

Plus how hot does it get in Wisconsin anyway... if the car starts overheating (I seriously doubt this) then you know to put them elsewhere...

stalker
12-17-2005, 05:23 PM
forget the blinder...old now....bring on the gen 3 jammer ;)

compu44
12-17-2005, 06:30 PM
SmaartAasSaabr: yeah two more weeks, right? :lol: :lol: :wink:

Sethy, i talked to crazyVOLVOrob, and he said his lidatek le-30 dual has performed very well against the LTI ultralyte guns in NY. since i'll have to spend the money either way, i would like a smaller less consicuous system 1)becuase i dont want my parents to get suspicious of 4 black things on the front of my car and 2)i don't think its very easy to steal something like this, mostly becuase most people don't know what it is or that it even exists, but in that event, it would give me greater peace of mind having a smaller system. i dont think that many ultralytes are used close to where i live, but i know that if i travel to madison or down to chicago, there is a much greater chance of encountering it. from what i've heard from leepoffaith, its mostly the PLIII that's used in downtown milwaukee and the surrounding area when laser is ever used

Be careful with the LE30. It did awful against the LTI in the guys of lidar testing. http://www.guysoflidar.com/shootout05/lasertests.html

Mackid343
12-17-2005, 11:24 PM
it looks like it will fit, but it wont. is more of a funnel on the inside. it starts wide and funnels down quickly to a duct. i cant even fit my hand in it.

i'm not so sure i really want to go for a LED jammer, its somewhat old technology and i think a diode would be a better investment for the future.

i'm not worried about getting a jammer this second, but i would like to soon. simpily because i know staties use laser and the last stretch of freeway that is close to my house, thats the only type of cop i've ever seen on it. (havn't seen any since i got my detector). plus, i want to be able to mount my detector high and not worry about having a possible laser save (dont think it would happen because i have a white car with chipped up veil and a front plate with a lasershield), but there still might be the slight chance.

i would also like a less noticeable system beause i don't think my parents would be too accepting of something that helps me aviod speeding tickets :D

since i'm only in high school, this is A LOT of money for me, so i want to be sure i'm getting the right thing and not buying something that i'll want to upgrade in a few months.

even though the lidatek didnt do so well in the latest GOL shootout, i'm still leaning toward it at this point. i've talked to crazyvolvorob, who has the le-30 dual in NY, and he has been saved multiple times against the LTI's (which are the only guns they own in NY). i know all the big names here (Roy, The Veil Guy, and most of the GOL) all have blinders and they are very trusted by many other forum members, but i just dont know if it would be quite so good in the long run. if they had the prototype that was tested at GOL out, then i would buy one hands down

why is antilaser taking so long! :( it is exactly what i want (minus the fact they wern't able to jam the LTI yet on the prototype.) JTG on every gun...every time (except for two)....on a silver suv! plus i can get away with telling my parents that it's a parking sensor if they find it and they wont know the difference! :D

crazyVOLVOrob
12-17-2005, 11:48 PM
SmaartAasSaabr: yeah two more weeks, right? :lol: :lol: :wink:

Sethy, i talked to crazyVOLVOrob, and he said his lidatek le-30 dual has performed very well against the LTI ultralyte guns in NY. since i'll have to spend the money either way, i would like a smaller less consicuous system 1)becuase i dont want my parents to get suspicious of 4 black things on the front of my car and 2)i don't think its very easy to steal something like this, mostly becuase most people don't know what it is or that it even exists, but in that event, it would give me greater peace of mind having a smaller system. i dont think that many ultralytes are used close to where i live, but i know that if i travel to madison or down to chicago, there is a much greater chance of encountering it. from what i've heard from leepoffaith, its mostly the PLIII that's used in downtown milwaukee and the surrounding area when laser is ever used

Be careful with the LE30. It did awful against the LTI in the guys of lidar testing. http://www.guysoflidar.com/shootout05/lasertests.htmlI have had some encounters with my Lidatek with the LTI Ultralyte and my detector continues to laser alert until the jammer hits recycle mode.....To me that a full 5second jam.....Also I have never ran into a tripod set-up with my jammer....The LTI is deadly from a tripod so i would expect punch through.


The Lidatek i assumed was going to do horrible on the worst case senerio SUV, chrome, and huge headlights....also guns were fired from a tripod making it easier for them to stay stable

Look at the results when the LTI Ultralyte wasn't on a tripod.....JTG!


With VEIL, LaserShield and the Lidatek would be a good combo......So would be the Escort ZR3 with all jamming heads up front...Heck you could even probably get away with just the Blinder M20....and i know Roy would cut you a great deal on that if you asked

Mackid343
12-18-2005, 07:19 AM
I have had some encounters with my Lidatek with the LTI Ultralyte and my detector continues to laser alert until the jammer hits recycle mode.....To me that a full 5 second jam.....Also I have never ran into a tripod set-up with my jammer....The LTI is deadly from a tripod so i would expect punch through.

my guess is that since cops in my area are too lazy to set up speed traps, that their not going to be using any guns on tripods - haha. plus, how many people have actually seen this in the real world? not many that i've heard of.


The Lidatek i assumed was going to do horrible on the worst case senerio SUV, chrome, and huge headlights....also guns were fired from a tripod making it easier for them to stay stable

Look at the results when the LTI Ultralyte wasn't on a tripod.....JTG!

i was considering this same fact. thats why i'm leaning toward it at this point. i also have a lasershield and veil already and would be willing to add a black vehicle bra as well for extra protection. i can get a lidatek without the 5 second recycle, correct? i would want to manually turn it off when i would ever encounter laser

crazyVOLVOrob
12-18-2005, 03:58 PM
No you can not get a Lidatek that will jam longer than 5seconds.......But 5 seconds I have all ever needed to adjust the speed....you can shut off the jammer if 5seconds is too much.....I have come to find that 5 seconds is perfect before i had my CB I going 85 and had plenty of time to slow down to 65 with out braking hard.

IF you want to spend your money on the Lidatek it won't bother me.....I think you would be fine with the blinder M20 and that would save you some money. But i am a broke college kid that spends all his money on this stuff, my friends think i am crazy

Mackid343
12-18-2005, 04:11 PM
No you can not get a Lidatek that will jam longer than 5seconds.......But 5 seconds I have all ever needed to adjust the speed....you can shut off the jammer if 5seconds is too much.....I have come to find that 5 seconds is perfect before i had my CB I going 85 and had plenty of time to slow down to 65 with out braking hard.

IF you want to spend your money on the Lidatek it won't bother me.....I think you would be fine with the blinder M20 and that would save you some money. But i am a broke college kid that spends all his money on this stuff, my friends think i am crazy

hence the name crazyvolvorob? :wink: :wink: i'm with ya, except i'm in high school and spend all my money on this kinda stuff :D. my friends laugh periodically but its saved me about 3 tickets so far that would have all been for 10+over. not to mention if i brought a ticket home to show my parents, i most likely wouldnt be driving anymore...or paying a lot more money on my insurance bill! - haha

what if i got a black vehicle bra and an m20, that would eliminate a lot of the relective area. then re applied the veil on my headlights because mines all chipped up and maybe veiled my lasershield? i'm thinking that the black bra will ease the jammers job A LOT. i dont know, thats just my guess. i dont like the punchthrough with the PL3 and the lidatek - thats somewhat disturbing... and i'm not a big fan of the 5 seconds of jamming. what i've noticed from the GOL results is that usually 2 out of the 3 runs for plate/headlight are pretty good, and the 3rd is usually not so great. my guess is that on a car without all that chrome along with veil/lasershield i would think that results would be a lot better and more consistant. also when the gun is off the tripod, the results are alot different.
it is a lot of money that i dont really have to spend. i think i'll go for the blinder m20 + black bra. its not that much money plus a lot of people have it and it has worked for them

crazyVOLVOrob
12-18-2005, 06:58 PM
black bra added to the VEIL and Laser Sheild will be a great combo and still cheaper than buy the lidatek DUAL

Mackid343
12-20-2005, 04:43 PM
ok well when i was looking at the air vents, it was on my friends grandam and not mine. sorry about that...i measured and looked at mine and it looks as if the heads will fit easily into those slots... i am going to be purchasing an m20 and black vehicle bra in the next few days and possibly adding 2 more heads as time goes along (and i get the money). should i start with the 1st two heads up top or down low? i'm thinking top...
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6893/bkah7wo.jpg

also, since my parents periodically drive my car, i was wondering how i could wire this up so that it wouldn't be noticed. i have a place behind my center console, back below the stereo area that i can put the control box and whatnot in i believe. i have a fog light switch that is connected to a fuse...could i possibly tap off of that and then when i turn that switch off, it would turn off the blinder as well? then just velcrow the light and switch so it could be taken off and put behind part of the center console and connect that for a speaker on/off switch rather than a master on off? if not, i can just wire up the on off switch so it can be taken off from where i could reach it and put it back behind there. also, for hardwiring my detector with the smart cord, i am wondering how i find out what the right power source would be (right voltage and all that) and so that it would go off with the car when it turns off. thanks for all your help so far guys!

Mackid343
12-20-2005, 05:21 PM
anyone have pictures of the brackets and the other components of the blinder? i'm wondering how hard this would be to install on my own...

also, whats the plug in leveling device that comes with the blinder?

i have to make sure that the blinders are 90 degrese with the ground and facing straight out, correct? any other tips on installs would be greatly appriciated!

crazyVOLVOrob
12-20-2005, 05:32 PM
Well the way my lidatek is installed is that there is a LED(lets me know if the system is on and operational) next to a bunch of my auxilary switches for my car(rear fog light, traction control, defroster, etc.) and the power switch for my Lidatek is under the console not visible at all.....I can usually turn it off my foot or reach down and do it..

The speaker you can keep under your dash it's annoying loud and will get your attention....My lidatek speaker i had thought it would be a good idea to mount right by ear (since i usually drive with all my windows down and music blasting) It is almost too loud so i might remount it under my dash.


I am sure there is a way for you to put the LED so it's only noticable to you...As for you parents driving your car occasionally, I don't teach my parents how to operate any of my stealth stuff and I don't plan on pointing out the on/off switch for my laser jammer any day soon. Before i turn off my car i turn off all accessories to avoid a power surge at start up....You can easily get in the habit of turning off the jammer when you leave your car
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I helped install my lidatek at a stereo shop i use to work at. I only went there to get it installed so i could get the year warranty.

I would start with the transponders in the lower region but thats my opinion.

The blinder has it's own on/off switch so use that just hide it under rhe console

A-TownNavi
12-20-2005, 05:47 PM
rob-j/w but why would you put it on the bottom first. the top is closer to the headlights and within 18" of the plate. i aint correctling you, just wondering :D

crazyVOLVOrob
12-20-2005, 08:52 PM
supposidly awhile back Blinder Dude said having the jamming heads close to each other will cause a problem( i don't think is will), and the heads need to be 18" appart....Also most troopers aim only at the plate and don't know any better and they will aim there until they get a reading....Your best bet is to protect your plate then worry about head light shots

leepoffaith
12-21-2005, 08:10 AM
If you wanna take a look at a real Blinder Install before you buy it you are more then welcome to come over and take a look at mine. I live right off 894 in Greenfield so it's not that far. PM me if you are are interested. I'll be free tomorrow and Friday nights.

You will be able to see exactly how big the blinder heads are, and exacting how the light, speaker and switch are set up.

Mackid343
12-21-2005, 03:42 PM
supposidly awhile back Blinder Dude said having the jamming heads close to each other will cause a problem( i don't think is will), and the heads need to be 18" appart....Also most troopers aim only at the plate and don't know any better and they will aim there until they get a reading....Your best bet is to protect your plate then worry about head light shots

my guess is he was worried about people putting them where they aren't far enough apart to cover the entire width of the car (like for example, putting both in the very center and only having protection for about 1/2 of the front of the car, rather than the entire front. i'm still thinking top at this point