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category4
07-04-2010, 04:49 PM
I am seriously starting to look at new cars again.

The two tops on my list are the Corvette Z06 (with the Z07 package) and ZR1.

My criteria is that it has to be a true sports car and has to be incredibly fast. My budget is $150K max. What other cars should I be looking at in this price range?

Woodscolby
07-04-2010, 05:28 PM
Used Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale or Used Lamborghini Gallardo.

If your looking at new a Porsche 911 GT3 is always a nice choice or the GT3 RS is still under 150K

http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-gt3rs/

stlcardsfan
07-04-2010, 05:45 PM
I'd say this (http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/911-turbo/) meets your criteria. ;)

...or this (http://www.mercedes-amg.com/?lang=usa#/s63-overview)

nategr8ns
07-04-2010, 05:53 PM
Buy a Subaru WRX STI and build the hell out of it. You'll have the best handling car for $150k

But that's fairly unrealistic. Nissan GTR?

category4
07-04-2010, 05:58 PM
I'm going to look at a few different ones. I've been thinking Porsche as well as the Vettes. Nothing with a back seat though, so the Mercedes is out!

I'm probably going to go with the Vette just want to make sure I don't miss out on something I really should have looked at.

The Chariot
07-04-2010, 06:01 PM
Get one of the Corvettes and then have a TVS supercharger professionally installed.... then say "good-bye" to any Porsche stupid enough to try. :D After having your Vette I think you're going to be disappointed with the "kick" a turbo'd car gives you no matter how quick it is. Nothing quite like spinning the tires at 60 mph (got a friend who can do that easily in Cobra Terminator with a KB blower). Bang for the buck nothing can touch a Vette given the sports car criteria you're looking for. Even the snobs on Top Gear love the Vette and they hate American cars.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHT3YBBkdGc

That's with just 7.5lbs of boost. Take it higher and OMG.

v1user
07-04-2010, 06:11 PM
Dad, do you remember me?:D

category4
07-04-2010, 06:16 PM
Dad, do you remember me?:D

No, sorry no children here!!!:D

category4
07-04-2010, 06:19 PM
Get one of the Corvettes and then have a TVS supercharger professionally installed.... then say "good-bye" to any Porsche stupid enough to try. :D After having your Vette I think you're going to be disappointed with the "kick" a turbo'd car gives you no matter how quick it is. Nothing quite like spinning the tires at 60 mph (got a friend who can do that easily in Cobra Terminator with a KB blower). Bang for the buck nothing can touch a Vette given the sports car criteria you're looking for. Even the snobs on Top Gear love the Vette and they hate American cars.


YouTube - 2010 corvette grand sport Supercharged (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHT3YBBkdGc)

That's with just 7.5lbs of boost. Take it higher and OMG.

I was thinking Z06 (7.0L) and then having Lingenfelter or Callaway do some upgrades. We are talking 650+ HP and 600+ ft-lbs of torque!!!:eek:

The Chariot
07-04-2010, 06:27 PM
I was thinking Z06 (7.0L) and then having Lingenfelter or Callaway do some upgrades. We are talking 650+ HP and 600+ ft-lbs of torque!!!:eek:

You're heading in the right direction there! That's RWHP too, so you're talking 750+ at the crank (maybe less, I'm not sure of the drive train losses on a Vette at those power levels). Get some engine work done and up the boost and I could see 725+ RWHP coming out of that setup. You're going to have to get some damn good tires and maybe a little extra on the suspension in order to be able to get all that power to the pavement! I know some of the best PCM calibration tuners in the industry (I used to be involved in that industry) so for about $500 extra for a dyno session you can really optimize the hardware. Friend of mine.... 650+ HP Vettes are pretty common for him to tune.

In my case, with my own tuning, long tubes and about 8lbs boost (Roushcharger has 6.5 lbs stock) I took the RWHP from about 330 to over 400. Tune alone without added boost and long tubes was a 40 RWHP gain.

category4
07-04-2010, 06:28 PM
I was thinking Z06 (7.0L) and then having Lingenfelter or Callaway do some upgrades. We are talking 650+ HP and 600+ ft-lbs of torque!!!:eek:

You're heading in the right direction there! That's RWHP too, so you're talking 750-800HP at the crank. You're going to have to get some damn good tires and maybe a little extra on the suspension in order to be able to get all that power to the pavement!

Suspension, wheels and tires are all part of the conversion!

NissanA
07-04-2010, 06:40 PM
How about a Corvette ZR1 and with some Lingenfelter upgrades?


739 RWHP & 720 RWTQ :eek: :eek:

YouTube - Lingenfelter 2009 C6 ZR1 Corvette 10.03 @ 141.50 MPH-2

category4
07-04-2010, 06:50 PM
How about a Corvette ZR1 and with some Lingenfelter upgrades?


739 RWHP & 720 RWTQ :eek: :eek:

YouTube - Lingenfelter 2009 C6 ZR1 Corvette 10.03 @ 141.50 MPH-2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBjZOtTfnHA&feature=related)

HOLY COW!!!! That was fast!!!

srtga
07-04-2010, 06:59 PM
Nice budget :D Maybe when I grow up...

Anyway.

It's the fourth of July and your asking us to choose between the greatest American thing EVER and a nazi windsucker :p

C'mon dude. Do the Vette and devour imports.

The Chariot
07-04-2010, 07:04 PM
Nice budget :D Maybe when I grow up...

Anyway.

It's the fourth of July and your asking us to choose between the greatest American thing EVER and a nazi windsucker :p

C'mon dude. Do the Vette and devour imports.


Gotta agree with that.... and I'm a Ford man. The Corvette simply rocks.

category4
07-04-2010, 07:12 PM
Nice budget :D Maybe when I grow up...

Anyway.

It's the fourth of July and your asking us to choose between the greatest American thing EVER and a nazi windsucker :p

C'mon dude. Do the Vette and devour imports.


Gotta agree with that.... and I'm a Ford man. The Corvette simply rocks.

It's probably going to be a Vette and after seeing that 6K mod for the ZR1 turn 141 in the 1/4 all I can say is wow!!!

protias
07-04-2010, 07:32 PM
Ultima GTR

snoopyc4
07-04-2010, 08:07 PM
My vote is for a Corvette ZR1.

radarrob
07-05-2010, 07:31 AM
this is Hot! get this

YouTube - 2010 Porsche 911 Turbo - Performance

kpatz
07-05-2010, 07:36 AM
$150k budget? Sheesh... down payment on a house there guy! ;) Is your company hiring? :D

If it were me and had that much to blow on a car, I'd be checking out the Audi R8. Or get 2 or 3 $50-75k cars!

But given your choices, I'd go for the Vette. You'll have enough left over for a few LI Quad HPs to put all over the car to make it 2000% stealth. ;)

category4
07-05-2010, 09:30 AM
$150k budget? Sheesh... down payment on a house there guy! ;) Is your company hiring? :D

If it were me and had that much to blow on a car, I'd be checking out the Audi R8. Or get 2 or 3 $50-75k cars!

But given your choices, I'd go for the Vette. You'll have enough left over for a few LI Quad HPs to put all over the car to make it 2000% stealth. ;)

I'm actually probably going to retire, let's just say I made a really good investment a few years back!!!:D

Woodscolby
07-05-2010, 09:45 AM
2009-2011 Corvette ZR1 | ZR700 & ZR750 Upgrades | Hennessey Performance - Corvette ZR750 (http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/corvettezr750.html)

Maybe consider looking into that? I don't know the pricing, that would be something for you to call and ask.

Limited SLIP
07-05-2010, 09:47 AM
your company hiring?...If it were me and had that much to blow on a car, I'd be checking out the Audi R8. Or get 2 or 3 $50-75k cars...

I'd love to get my hands on an a8L, s8.. or that amg..

voyager7
07-05-2010, 11:27 AM
What about a Shelby Super Snake?

2010 Shelby GT500 Super Snake Information (http://www.shelbyautos.com/vehicles/2010SS.asp)

# Options Shelby/Ford Racing Whipple 750 HP Supercharger*
# Shelby/Kenne Bell 750 HP Supercharger* (black or polished)
# Shelby/Baer 6-piston caliper rear brake system
# Shelby/Eibach adjustable coil-over suspension
# Shelby/Eibach sway bars
# White ball billet short-throw shifter

At least stay American made.

corkguykev
07-05-2010, 12:00 PM
I know one thing for sure mate, if I had your dilemma, a Corvette would definitely be the solution for me ;) :D:D.

Cips
07-05-2010, 04:53 PM
I'd keep the Vette and give East Coast Supercharging a call. East Coast Supercharging is your Corvette Dyno Tuning, Supercharging, Turbo, Cam and Heads Specialist (http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.com/Corvette.html)

category4
07-05-2010, 06:24 PM
I'd keep the Vette and give East Coast Supercharging a call. East Coast Supercharging is your Corvette Dyno Tuning, Supercharging, Turbo, Cam and Heads Specialist (http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.com/Corvette.html)

I am keeping the Vette for my daily driver, I'm looking for something to play on the track with and a Sunday go to meeting car so to speak.

The Chariot
07-05-2010, 06:28 PM
I'd keep the Vette and give East Coast Supercharging a call. East Coast Supercharging is your Corvette Dyno Tuning, Supercharging, Turbo, Cam and Heads Specialist (http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.com/Corvette.html)

I am keeping the Vette for my daily driver, I'm looking for something to play on the track with and a Sunday go to meeting car so to speak.

Is bang for the buck a big consideration or not?

radarrob
07-05-2010, 06:39 PM
I'd keep the Vette and give East Coast Supercharging a call. East Coast Supercharging is your Corvette Dyno Tuning, Supercharging, Turbo, Cam and Heads Specialist (http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.com/Corvette.html)x2 that place if Hot my buddy took me there before.very fast cars

category4
07-05-2010, 06:46 PM
I'd keep the Vette and give East Coast Supercharging a call. East Coast Supercharging is your Corvette Dyno Tuning, Supercharging, Turbo, Cam and Heads Specialist (http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.com/Corvette.html)

I am keeping the Vette for my daily driver, I'm looking for something to play on the track with and a Sunday go to meeting car so to speak.

Is bang for the buck a big consideration or not?

Yes, it's 95% certain to be the Vette (ZR1 or Z06), I just want to make sure I'm not missing something and go 6 months later, Duh I could have had a V-8!!!

It's just hard to be a Vette for the money, but I am going to look at the R8 and the Porsches.

I'm still a few months away from making a decision, but I want to start the research project.

QuickCummins
07-05-2010, 07:29 PM
2009-2011 Corvette ZR1 | ZR700 & ZR750 Upgrades | Hennessey Performance - Corvette ZR750 (http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/corvettezr750.html)

Maybe consider looking into that? I don't know the pricing, that would be something for you to call and ask.

you read my mind........

YouTube - 2009 Hennessey ZR1: 196.7 mph Standing Mile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43yvb3a6wxw

DrCoke
07-05-2010, 07:34 PM
Regardless what you pick, it must have optimal jammer placement.

mellowbob
07-05-2010, 08:32 PM
Ditto on the R8. Maybe get a Nissan GTR spec V. Personally, I'd get a E92 M3 and spend some money on it.

NissanA
07-05-2010, 10:24 PM
Stay away from the Nissan GTR. If you use launch mode Nissan won't replace the $20,000 transmission...

Audi R8 V10 are damn nice if you want to go the flashy route. Corvette ZR1 with upgrades is the best bang for the buck though, if you want to eat every supercar alive. :D

wrenchedexcess
07-05-2010, 11:07 PM
YouTube - 2009 Corvette ZR1 - Hennessey ZR700: 11.03 @ 136 mph (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43yvb3a6wxw)

Probably not worth the $$. At One Lap of America in May, I watched a showroom-stock 997 Turbo PDK run 10.9 in the quarter. I am pretty sure the ZR1 + Hennessey's Modifications would be more expensive than a 997 Turbo off the showroom floor.

Event 8 - Tulsa Raceway - Drag Race (http://www.onelapofamerica.com/history/2010/results/showResults.shtml?y=2010&res=EV08)

Definitely worth your consideration.

that guy
07-06-2010, 03:34 PM
nissan GT-R i guess

kinda hard to name a car for you since you already got the vette what else do you need? haha

voyager7
07-06-2010, 05:23 PM
The CentiMark Mustang continues to rewrite the record books while surpassing all previously established standards of performance! Primarily built to compete in the “Production” classification for Land Speed Racing, the rules are very restrictive with regards to aerodynamic modifications. The body must remain completely stock, with no additional wings, spoilers or splitters that were not original equipment from the dealership. These factors become very relevant and limiting at speeds in excess of 200 miles per hour.

Owned and driven by veteran driver Steve Benyo, the CentiMark Mustang holds the C/Production Supercharged World Land Speed Record of 232.27, set in August of 2008 at the fabled Bonneville Salt Flats. The average speed for the fifth mile of the record setting run was 238.44 mph, making this “The World’s Fastest Production Mustang.”

A friend of mine tells me this is his buddies car I believe he said it still has the Terminator motor (4.6) with a few extra mods.
Just think what you can do with a 720 hp Shelby Super Snake.

YouTube - Steve Benyo's record setting Land Speed run at Bonneville.!

KOMO
07-06-2010, 08:32 PM
I would give the R8 and the ZR1 serious consideration. One car that's often overlooked but that is an absolute monster is the Ford GT. It'll be my first super car.

scull20
07-06-2010, 11:21 PM
As far as track cars go...

(Newest) 2nd Gen 997 GT3-RS

or

GTR / GTR Spec V (Unsure on pricing or US Availability on Spec V)

or

ZR1

or

R8 V10

Allow me to shed the light of Jeremy Clarkson onto this debate.

YouTube - Corvette ZR1 vs Audi R8 - Top Gear - BBC

In short (summary of the video): R8 v10, more manageable on the track / livable day to day and the ZR1, complete insanity, super fast car, much more difficult to drive.


If it was me going to buy a car to use with the thought in mind that I was going to use it on the track....GT3 RS (Newest).

Good Luck

-Ryan

P.S. I envy you :)

voyager7
07-07-2010, 04:17 PM
is an absolute monster is the Ford GT. It'll be my first super car.

That is my dream.
Had a set of keys in my hand once.

KOMO
07-07-2010, 06:11 PM
is an absolute monster is the Ford GT. It'll be my first super car.

That is my dream.
Had a set of keys in my hand once.

Geesh, how did you manage that? I think by 25 I should be alright!

Cauhauna
07-07-2010, 07:56 PM
Let me preface: I love corvettes and will in almost all certainty have one (used) by the time i'm 25.

That being said, I'd say no corvette! You own a beautiful vette already. The average person won't give your new vette a second glance. Maybe that's what you want, and maybe it isn't. But If I'm spending 100k+ on a vehicle, it damn sure better turn some heads -- and not just auto enthusiast heads, either. I want the person I pass yapping on the phone to say to the person on the other end "holy @#$, i think the Batmobile just blew by me...."

If you MUST have another vette, don't get the Z06.

My votes go to:

Audi R8 V10
Porsche 911 Turbo
BMW M6


I'd steer clear of any used Lamborghini or Ferrari. That's just me.

category4
07-07-2010, 07:58 PM
I've already turned all the heads I need to turn.


Let me preface: I love corvettes and will in almost all certainty have one (used) by the time i'm 25.

That being said, I'd say no corvette! You own a beautiful vette already. The average person won't give your new vette a second glance. Maybe that's what you want, and maybe it isn't. But If I'm spending 100k+ on a vehicle, it damn sure better turn some heads -- and not just auto enthusiast heads, either. I want the person I pass yapping on the phone to say to the person on the other end "holy @#$, i think the Batmobile just blew by me...."

If you MUST have another vette, don't get the Z06.

My votes go to:

Audi R8 V10
Porsche 911 Turbo
BMW M6


I'd steer clear of any used Lamborghini or Ferrari. That's just me.

Cauhauna
07-07-2010, 08:05 PM
I've already turned all the heads I need to turn.



Have you given any consideration to the Dodge Viper?

protias
07-07-2010, 08:06 PM
I'm still going to say the Ultima GTR. :D

Ultima Sports Ltd - The Sensational Ultima GTR (http://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Video.aspx?f=gtrvideo)

category4
07-07-2010, 08:31 PM
I've already turned all the heads I need to turn.



Have you given any consideration to the Dodge Viper?

No Dodge anything, dodge is a verb!!!

The list is as follows:

ZR1
Z06
R8
Porsche GT3 and GT3 RS

This is roughly the order of preference as I start doing my homework.

scull20
07-07-2010, 09:01 PM
I've already turned all the heads I need to turn.



Have you given any consideration to the Dodge Viper?

No Dodge anything, dodge is a verb!!!

The list is as follows:

ZR1
Z06
R8
Porsche GT3 and GT3 RS

This is roughly the order of preference as I start doing my homework.

Just a quick question, where you considering the R8 or R8 V10?

-Ryan

P.S. Did I mention my jealousy yet? :)

DrCoke
07-07-2010, 09:35 PM
For a +$100,000 price tag on a car, I would want a limited production car thats not dime a dozen. I see Corvettes everyday so to me they blend in traffic like a Camry or Accord. I would vote R8 as my 1st choice and followed by the Ford GT, GT3, than ZR1.
However, I think Cat4 just wants a car that eats up all cars and the modded Z06 or ZR1 is the perfect car. I think the Modded Z06 is the best deal and will eat up everything on the road.

swarga
07-07-2010, 09:41 PM
I see Corvettes everyday so to me they blend in traffic like a Camry or Accord.

I only wish the cops around here thought that way...

Cauhauna
07-07-2010, 09:57 PM
For a +$100,000 price tag on a car, I would want a limited production car thats not dime a dozen. I see Corvettes everyday so to me they blend in traffic like a Camry or Accord.

While this is a bit extreme, that is the point I was also trying to convey in my post.
No one but an enthusiast (or cop) will give a corvette a second glance.


I do wonder why the z06 is on the list of possible vehicles? With it's super high compression ratio, adding power with forced induction is a ticking timebomb....

If any corvette is purchased by cat4, it should be the ZR1, imo.

SpeedUp
07-08-2010, 12:57 AM
http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Cross_Bronx_Abandoned_Car.jpg

Check it out. This car is pretty hot in Baltimore.

Not sure about southerns taste. :D

thefreakincarjunkie
07-08-2010, 09:54 AM
Im suprised no one has mention the HPF M3?

YouTube - HPF stage 3 M3 vs GSXR 1000 and others

Or if that is not quite enough power they have a 1000 HP varient.....

YouTube - HPF Stage 4 Turbo M3 Cabin View to 173mph

And If your worried about taking it out on the streets....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yRwAR0ZMhA
Information about the turbo kits can be found here

HPF E46 M3 Turbo Kits for your BMW M3 from HorsepowerFreaks (http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/partdetails/HPF/Turbos/Turbo_Kits/E46_M3/11037)

DrCoke
07-08-2010, 11:36 AM
Cat4 wants a real sports car. Meaning 2-door, 2-passenger, rear wheel car. M3 dont fit that description.

Cauhauna
07-08-2010, 01:57 PM
Cat4 wants a real sports car. Meaning 2-door, 2-passenger, rear wheel car. M3 dont fit that description.

Porsche 911 turbo is 2 door, 4 passenger.

I certainly consider it a real sports car ;)

edit: however, it is the exception to the rule.


edit; WOW, i just checked porsche's site

They now make a 911 Turbo S
0-60 in 3.1 Seconds!!!!
ahhhh!!!

scull20
07-08-2010, 02:49 PM
Cat4 wants a real sports car. Meaning 2-door, 2-passenger, rear wheel car. M3 dont fit that description.

Porsche 911 turbo is 2 door, 4 passenger.

I certainly consider it a real sports car ;)

edit: however, it is the exception to the rule.


edit; WOW, i just checked porsche's site

They now make a 911 Turbo S
0-60 in 3.1 Seconds!!!!
ahhhh!!!


I would imagine that was with the PDK...not the proper manual though...and at sea-level...with warm tires...on a nice 65 degree day...with Neon gas in the tires because its lighter than air...with the skinniest of drivers behind the wheel...who didn't eat dinner the night before or breakfast the day of the test...oh and he shaved all the hair off his body too...and plucked his eyelashes too...lol

I'm not denying that its a quick car...but 3.1s to 60 is an awfully quick time for a 911 Turbo (even the S model), and you found it on the Porsche website (not an outside source doing the test), where you may also be able to find ACTUAL non-doctored pictures of money growing on trees, the loch ness monster and maybe even the secret sniper on the grass knoll lol:)

-Ryan

DrCoke
07-08-2010, 02:56 PM
Cat4 wants a real sports car. Meaning 2-door, 2-passenger, rear wheel car. M3 dont fit that description.

Porsche 911 turbo is 2 door, 4 passenger.

I certainly consider it a real sports car ;)

edit: however, it is the exception to the rule.


edit; WOW, i just checked porsche's site

They now make a 911 Turbo S
0-60 in 3.1 Seconds!!!!
ahhhh!!!

3.1 Second stock?? HollyCow!!!

protias
07-08-2010, 03:22 PM
I would imagine that was with the PDK...not the proper manual though...and at sea-level...with warm tires...on a nice 65 degree day...with Neon gas in the tires because its lighter than air...with the skinniest of drivers behind the wheel...who didn't eat dinner the night before or breakfast the day of the test...oh and he shaved all the hair off his body too...and plucked his eyelashes too...lol

I'm not denying that its a quick car...but 3.1s to 60 is an awfully quick time for a 911 Turbo (even the S model), and you found it on the Porsche website (not an outside source doing the test), where you may also be able to find ACTUAL non-doctored pictures of money growing on trees, the loch ness monster and maybe even the secret sniper on the grass knoll lol:)

-Ryan

I have never head of cars using neon gas to put in the tires.

category4
07-08-2010, 03:24 PM
I'll let you know what the real 0-60 times are when I test drive them!!!:D

scull20
07-08-2010, 03:32 PM
I would imagine that was with the PDK...not the proper manual though...and at sea-level...with warm tires...on a nice 65 degree day...with Neon gas in the tires because its lighter than air...with the skinniest of drivers behind the wheel...who didn't eat dinner the night before or breakfast the day of the test...oh and he shaved all the hair off his body too...and plucked his eyelashes too...lol

I'm not denying that its a quick car...but 3.1s to 60 is an awfully quick time for a 911 Turbo (even the S model), and you found it on the Porsche website (not an outside source doing the test), where you may also be able to find ACTUAL non-doctored pictures of money growing on trees, the loch ness monster and maybe even the secret sniper on the grass knoll lol:)

-Ryan

I have never head of cars using neon gas to put in the tires.

Was a joke to emphasize the fact that perhaps a bit of doctoring was done to get to a 3.1 s 0-60 time....as was the rest of the post.

protias
07-08-2010, 03:38 PM
I would imagine that was with the PDK...not the proper manual though...and at sea-level...with warm tires...on a nice 65 degree day...with Neon gas in the tires because its lighter than air...with the skinniest of drivers behind the wheel...who didn't eat dinner the night before or breakfast the day of the test...oh and he shaved all the hair off his body too...and plucked his eyelashes too...lol

I'm not denying that its a quick car...but 3.1s to 60 is an awfully quick time for a 911 Turbo (even the S model), and you found it on the Porsche website (not an outside source doing the test), where you may also be able to find ACTUAL non-doctored pictures of money growing on trees, the loch ness monster and maybe even the secret sniper on the grass knoll lol:)

-Ryan

I have never head of cars using neon gas to put in the tires.

Was a joke to emphasize the fact that perhaps a bit of doctoring was done to get to a 3.1 s 0-60 time....as was the rest of the post.

Ah. My sarcasm detector is broken.

category4
07-08-2010, 04:29 PM
yeah Corvettes come with a 78% blend of Nitrogen and 21% Oxygen from the factory!!!:D

scull20
07-08-2010, 04:48 PM
yeah Corvettes come with a 78% blend of Nitrogen and 21% Oxygen from the factory!!!:D

/\/\/\/\ Hahhahaah

djrams80
07-08-2010, 05:07 PM
yeah Corvettes come with a 78% blend of Nitrogen and 21% Oxygen from the factory!!!:D:lol:

voyager7
07-08-2010, 05:44 PM
is an absolute monster is the Ford GT. It'll be my first super car.

That is my dream.
Had a set of keys in my hand once.

Geesh, how did you manage that? I think by 25 I should be alright!

I know the dealer really well!!

Cauhauna
07-08-2010, 06:49 PM
I would imagine that was with the PDK...not the proper manual though...and at sea-level...with warm tires...on a nice 65 degree day...with Neon gas in the tires because its lighter than air...with the skinniest of drivers behind the wheel...who didn't eat dinner the night before or breakfast the day of the test...oh and he shaved all the hair off his body too...and plucked his eyelashes too...lol

I'm not denying that its a quick car...but 3.1s to 60 is an awfully quick time for a 911 Turbo (even the S model), and you found it on the Porsche website (not an outside source doing the test), where you may also be able to find ACTUAL non-doctored pictures of money growing on trees, the loch ness monster and maybe even the secret sniper on the grass knoll lol:)
-Ryan

Try knowing what you're talking about next time before posting.


Here's video proof of the BASE 911 turbo doing it in 3.01 seconds

With a normal sized driver and a passenger.

YouTube - 2010 Porsche does 0-60mph in 3.01s!!


here is someone's post on the wall:

@druide106 (http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=druide106) This standard 911 turbo with PDK does 0-60 in 3.01 seconds and
0-100 in 07.07 seconds. This confirms what everyone already knows which is that Porsche are conservative with their performance figures. I predict that the new 911 Turbo S which is even faster than this will be regularly hitting 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds and 0-100 mph in 6.7 seconds maybe even quicker. The great thing is that you can do this all day every day in this car and it is not going to break. Porsche take a bow.


edit: another post

1 week ago
@MUFC11timesEPLChamps (http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=mufc11timeseplchamps) some auto mags have seen 2.8 secs for 0- 60 times

nategr8ns
07-08-2010, 07:07 PM
here is someone's post on the wall:

@druide106 (http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=druide106) This standard 911 turbo with PDK does 0-60 in 3.01 seconds and
0-100 in 07.07 seconds. This confirms what everyone already knows which is that Porsche are conservative with their performance figures. I predict that the new 911 Turbo S which is even faster than this will be regularly hitting 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds and 0-100 mph in 6.7 seconds maybe even quicker. The great thing is that you can do this all day every day in this car and it is not going to break. Porsche take a bow.

I know a guy who's (stock) Porsche was always in the shop, and he only drove it during the summer... I wouldn't buy one. Don't know what this Youtuber was smokin', unless Porsche only had problems with one model or one generation or something.

scull20
07-08-2010, 08:17 PM
I would imagine that was with the PDK...not the proper manual though...and at sea-level...with warm tires...on a nice 65 degree day...with Neon gas in the tires because its lighter than air...with the skinniest of drivers behind the wheel...who didn't eat dinner the night before or breakfast the day of the test...oh and he shaved all the hair off his body too...and plucked his eyelashes too...lol

I'm not denying that its a quick car...but 3.1s to 60 is an awfully quick time for a 911 Turbo (even the S model), and you found it on the Porsche website (not an outside source doing the test), where you may also be able to find ACTUAL non-doctored pictures of money growing on trees, the loch ness monster and maybe even the secret sniper on the grass knoll lol:)
-Ryan

Try knowing what you're talking about next time before posting.


Here's video proof of the BASE 911 turbo doing it in 3.01 seconds

With a normal sized driver and a passenger.

YouTube - 2010 Porsche does 0-60mph in 3.01s!!


here is someone's post on the wall:

@druide106 (http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=druide106) This standard 911 turbo with PDK does 0-60 in 3.01 seconds and
0-100 in 07.07 seconds. This confirms what everyone already knows which is that Porsche are conservative with their performance figures. I predict that the new 911 Turbo S which is even faster than this will be regularly hitting 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds and 0-100 mph in 6.7 seconds maybe even quicker. The great thing is that you can do this all day every day in this car and it is not going to break. Porsche take a bow.


edit: another post

1 week ago
@MUFC11timesEPLChamps (http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=mufc11timeseplchamps) some auto mags have seen 2.8 secs for 0- 60 times

...Try not being condescending before posting next time.

If you re-read what I said and maybe take the slight hint of sarcasm I tried to convey (money growing on trees, grassy knoll, loch ness monster pictures, driver not eating before the test, neon gas in the tires instead of air, shaving all his body hair and plucking his eye brows to save weight....) as a JOKE maybe it would be different. I also said I wasn't denying the fact it was a quick car.

That being said, in reference to my first post...the video was still taken in Estoril, Portugal...Elevation approx 66ft above sea-level, in October when the temperatures are roughly 60-70 degrees (Both confirmed using Wolfram Alpha and Weather Underground Almanac). And I cannot confirm or deny whether the passenger actually has a torso or not, all I see is hands and a head...perhaps this was done to again save weight.


(AUTHORS DISCLAIMER: The above post is not meant to be taken seriously in any way shape or form and and is purely for entertainment purposes, if you have been angered or offended by what you have read above, then I am truly, deeply, and whole heatedly sorry)

Seeing as how I apparently caused the thread to veer off-topic I will not be making reference to the above post or posts quoted above so as to steer the thread back on topic.



With that I pose a question...

Category4 what are your thoughts on perhaps something used?

category4
07-08-2010, 08:21 PM
I would imagine that was with the PDK...not the proper manual though...and at sea-level...with warm tires...on a nice 65 degree day...with Neon gas in the tires because its lighter than air...with the skinniest of drivers behind the wheel...who didn't eat dinner the night before or breakfast the day of the test...oh and he shaved all the hair off his body too...and plucked his eyelashes too...lol

I'm not denying that its a quick car...but 3.1s to 60 is an awfully quick time for a 911 Turbo (even the S model), and you found it on the Porsche website (not an outside source doing the test), where you may also be able to find ACTUAL non-doctored pictures of money growing on trees, the loch ness monster and maybe even the secret sniper on the grass knoll lol:)
-Ryan

Try knowing what you're talking about next time before posting.


Here's video proof of the BASE 911 turbo doing it in 3.01 seconds

With a normal sized driver and a passenger.

YouTube - 2010 Porsche does 0-60mph in 3.01s!!


here is someone's post on the wall:

@druide106 (http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=druide106) This standard 911 turbo with PDK does 0-60 in 3.01 seconds and
0-100 in 07.07 seconds. This confirms what everyone already knows which is that Porsche are conservative with their performance figures. I predict that the new 911 Turbo S which is even faster than this will be regularly hitting 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds and 0-100 mph in 6.7 seconds maybe even quicker. The great thing is that you can do this all day every day in this car and it is not going to break. Porsche take a bow.


edit: another post

1 week ago
@MUFC11timesEPLChamps (http://www.youtube.com/comment_search?username=mufc11timeseplchamps) some auto mags have seen 2.8 secs for 0- 60 times

...Try not being condescending before posting next time.

If you re-read what I said and maybe take the slight hint of sarcasm I tried to convey (money growing on trees, grassy knoll, loch ness monster pictures, driver not eating before the test, neon gas in the tires instead of air, shaving all his body hair and plucking his eye brows to save weight....) as a JOKE maybe it would be different. I also said I wasn't denying the fact it was a quick car.

That being said, in reference to my first post...the video was still taken in Estoril, Portugal...Elevation approx 66ft above sea-level, in October when the temperatures are roughly 60-70 degrees (Both confirmed using Wolfram Alpha and Weather Underground Almanac). And I cannot confirm or deny whether the passenger actually has a torso or not, all I see is hands and a head...perhaps this was done to again save weight.


(AUTHORS DISCLAIMER: The above post is not meant to be taken seriously in any way shape or form and and is purely for entertainment purposes, if you have been angered or offended by what you have read above, then I am truly, deeply, and whole heatedly sorry)

Seeing as how I apparently caused the thread to veer off-topic I will not be making reference to the above post or posts quoted above so as to steer the thread back on topic.



With that I pose a question...

Category4 what are your thoughts on perhaps something used?

New and I will want to order it and if possible watch them build it!

thefreakincarjunkie
07-08-2010, 08:24 PM
Cat4 wants a real sports car. Meaning 2-door, 2-passenger, rear wheel car. M3 dont fit that description.

First off m3's come can come with less than 4 doors hence the m3 coupe.

Second How many seats a vehicle has or how many doors it has, does not make the vehicle. If they made an r8 v12tdi sedan im sure it would still be considered a sports car and as someone already mentioned some porsches have more than 2 seats and they are definatly considered sports cars. Oh and I almost forgot an example that I owned at one point....The rs4. If you dont consider that a sports car you should find someone that owns one, it mind change your mind.

Third m3's are considered a sports car(sedan or coupe) not only by bmw, but by alot of other people too. They hold their own on the track. R&T and C&D has classified them as that for years and that is good enough for me. You may not consider that a sports car but the rest of us do.

They may not the fastest or most expensive sports car on the planet but they are well balanced and great handling and thats my suggestion.

scull20
07-08-2010, 08:34 PM
Category4 what are your thoughts on perhaps something used?

New and I will want to order it and if possible watch them build it!

That may pose an issue with buying something built overseas....but hey, you could make a trip out of it too!

In reality though the ZR1 seems to be best bang for the buck, and I can imagine if you go through the right portals...going to see it built may not be impossible.

However, if it were me I think it'd be neat to see both ends of the spectrum...already experienced the brute force of the 'Vette, would be nice to see the next generation technologies of say a GTR. I'm looking forward to see your thoughts on the test drives in the future!

-Ryan

KOMO
07-08-2010, 09:49 PM
Hell I'm just glad you're considering the Audi R8, I'm with everyone else, yes the ZR1 is an absolute beast, and yes you can buy a Z06 and mod it to turn it into an even bigger beast, but at the end of the day they're like mustangs, they're a dime a dozen.

An R8 V10 is truly a super car. I've also seen quite a few Ford GTs crushing records in the texas mile.

Obsidian
07-09-2010, 02:58 AM
If I were considering a $150K car it would be the 911 Turbo ... but I'd definitely give the R8 a serious look. 911's are fairly common here but I don't see too many R8's. I'd end up with the 911 though. Even though the Vette is the only American car I'd ever consider buying, they are super common in comparison.

radarrob
07-09-2010, 07:31 AM
If I were considering a $150K car it would be the 911 Turbo ... but I'd definitely give the R8 a serious look. 911's are fairly common here but I don't see too many R8's. I'd end up with the 911 though. Even though the Vette is the only American car I'd ever consider buying, they are super common in comparison.x2 911 turbo,the 2010 911 is bad a$$ my fav.

rsatmans
07-10-2010, 06:22 AM
I wonder if this is still available?

THE Audi R8 Blackbird. For Sale. Behold. | Alex Roy's Team Polizei HQ (http://www.teampolizeihq.com/2009/02/12/the-audi-r8-blackbird-for-sale-behold/)

radarrob
07-10-2010, 07:50 AM
I wonder if this is still available?

THE Audi R8 Blackbird. For Sale. Behold. | Alex Roy's Team Polizei HQ (http://www.teampolizeihq.com/2009/02/12/the-audi-r8-blackbird-for-sale-behold/)that car is sick! def a hot car

mellowbob
07-10-2010, 10:33 AM
What is that water cooled device? Some kind of high powered radar jammer? Pretty crazy setup. He just needs to paint the car with radar absorbing material to complete it. :p

nategr8ns
07-10-2010, 11:45 AM
What is that water cooled device? Some kind of high powered radar jammer? Pretty crazy setup. He just needs to paint the car with radar absorbing material to complete it. :p

What water-cooling device?

swarga
07-10-2010, 12:42 PM
What is that water cooled device? Some kind of high powered radar jammer? Pretty crazy setup. He just needs to paint the car with radar absorbing material to complete it. :p

Rumor has it that is some sort of low-frequency "disruptor" - basically when you turn it on, the car in front of you starts to vibrate like a Civic with a 1000-watt subwoofer. Seems like it would be great for dislodging LLBs; they'll think something is wrong with their car, and when they pull over to check it out you just sail on past.

Allegedly. :D

nategr8ns
07-10-2010, 07:02 PM
That's insane...

scull20
07-12-2010, 02:23 PM
In an effort not to sway your decision on what you will end up buying...I stumbled across this interesting little tidbit of information.

Chevrolet to let Corvette owners build their own engines - for a price [w/video] — Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/12/chevrolet-to-let-corvette-owners-build-their-own-engines-for-a/)

Happy reading!

-Ryan

category4
07-12-2010, 03:47 PM
In an effort not to sway your decision on what you will end up buying...I stumbled across this interesting little tidbit of information.

Chevrolet to let Corvette owners build their own engines - for a price [w/video] — Autoblog (http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/12/chevrolet-to-let-corvette-owners-build-their-own-engines-for-a/)

Happy reading!

-Ryan

Thanks for that info, quite impressive.

I was there when they built my current Vette, you had your own tour guide and could perform any assembly task you wished. It by far has been the most impressive part of owning the vehicle. I choose not to do much of the assembly, except for installing the right side wheels, and starting it up for the first time, but next time I will do more.

Now that I know I can build my own engine I will probably go that route on my next Vette.

Thanks

superbolt
07-12-2010, 06:29 PM
Ford GT, if you can find one.

r1owner
07-15-2010, 12:15 AM
That new Vette Z06 Carbon edition is just the ticket!

th3 factory freak
07-20-2010, 01:49 PM
SL-55 Stage, dyno tuned..........

Really depends on what you want...........

Or build the engine and go BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST. :D

swarga
07-27-2010, 11:36 PM
That new Vette Z06 Carbon edition is just the ticket!

For what that costs, you might as well buy a ZR-1 and be done with it.

SteadySpeedin
07-28-2010, 12:00 AM
Buy this, save $120k and make the earth a cleaner place :p.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy287/SteadySpeedin/prius1.jpg

r1owner
07-28-2010, 12:04 AM
That new Vette Z06 Carbon edition is just the ticket!

For what that costs, you might as well buy a ZR-1 and be done with it.

Vette doesn't need more than 505 HP, but better brakes and suspension are always welcome.

category4
07-28-2010, 03:45 AM
Buy this, save $120k and make the earth a cleaner place :p.

http://i800.photobucket.com/albums/yy287/SteadySpeedin/prius1.jpg

I'd buy 20 gas guzzlers before I bought that POS. When you factor in the batteries for that thing (manufacturing and disposal of said) I doubt that car is any more environmentally friendly that an internal combustion engine. Just another lefty dogooder ploy to manipulate the masses. And as usual the masses fall for it.

Zoki318
07-28-2010, 08:51 AM
$150,000 and no kids??? Let me guess. You used to be a politician in Chicago?

What you should do is buy the ZR1 get it all decked out and than hire me as your driver. While I am driving I will blow in your face to make it feel as if we are moving even faster. OMG that's a great idea.

Or go with the ZR1 and drive your self.

category4
07-28-2010, 07:30 PM
$150,000 and no kids??? Let me guess. You used to be a politician in Chicago?

What you should do is buy the ZR1 get it all decked out and than hire me as your driver. While I am driving I will blow in your face to make it feel as if we are moving even faster. OMG that's a great idea.

Or go with the ZR1 and drive your self.

Nope, but I am seriously considering politics for my next career move.

swarga
07-28-2010, 10:07 PM
$150,000 and no kids??? Let me guess. You used to be a politician in Chicago?

Nope, but I am seriously considering politics for my next career move.

You should try for the City Manager's job in Bell, CA:

Bell City Manager Scandal: Official Making $800k Safe For Now (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/20/bell-city-manager-scandal_n_653304.html)

Cips
08-02-2010, 01:52 PM
2005 Lingenfelter C6 Corvette 427 CID Twin Turbo | Lingenfelter Performance Engineering (http://www.lingenfelter.com/vehicles/for-sale/2005-lingenfelter-c6-corvette-427-cid-twin-turbo)

KeeevoIX
08-02-2010, 08:40 PM
Go with your vette as others will not impress you and if it does it will take a lot.

totoe39
08-03-2010, 01:49 AM
Go with the Porche.

erickonphoenix
08-03-2010, 07:18 AM
The vette is the best bang for the buck period. However, I really really really love the new R8. If my financial position had worked out better I would definitely be in the market for the R8. ;)

Still I love this Top Gear comparo of the ZR1 and the R8.

YouTube - Corvette ZR1 vs Audi R8 - Top Gear - BBC

904nm
08-19-2010, 12:51 AM
I say R8 or 911 Turbo S. Vette is too common and build quality debatable. Some supercars are just over the top and the compensation syndrome creeps in. The R8 stands out as a sleek supercar without screaming that the owner has a 3" willie. 911 Tubro S is nice too. 0-60 in 3.01 factory stock with a passenger is not too shabby, and it also does turns. Seems like with the 911 or R8 you are also more likely to live another day to enjoy the car again vs crashing in the Chevy. Then again, if an adrenaline rush is the goal, the Vette may be the best choice. Doesn't seem like you need to prove anything or turn any more heads, so my vote goes for the 911. I'd be happy with any of them but I would also pick the 911 for myself.

th3 factory freak
08-22-2010, 02:07 PM
I'm going to look at a few different ones. I've been thinking Porsche as well as the Vettes. Nothing with a back seat though, so the Mercedes is out!


An SL-55 does not have a back seat. Add ECU, exhaust, pulley and a tune, and hold on to dear life. (They don't corner that well though, but are very comfortable)

category4
08-22-2010, 08:16 PM
I'm pretty sure the decision has been made and it's not the ZR1!! After seeing a new Z07, yes not a Z06 but a Z07, I think that's my new car.

505 HP is plenty, has the ZR1 brakes and suspension, and leaves me enough left over to get the wife a CTS-V!!!

swarga
08-22-2010, 08:18 PM
I'm pretty sure the decision has been made and it's not the ZR1!! After seeing a new Z07, yes not a Z06 but a Z07, I think that's my new car.

505 HP is plenty, has the ZR1 brakes and suspension, and leaves me enough left over to get the wife a CTS-V!!!

Z07? The vapor-mobile that was due in 2009 (http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/112_0704_chevrolet_corvette_z07/index.html)? :D

If you mean the 2011 version, it's only $15K cheaper than a ZR-1; why not just go whole hog?

category4
08-22-2010, 08:44 PM
Actually it's about 25K less and I can get that and the CTS-V and stay pretty close if not under my original 150K budget.

Either one though is more car than I can handle and will be a ton of fun on the track.

protias
08-22-2010, 09:04 PM
So you gonna get rid of your current Vette?

category4
08-22-2010, 09:15 PM
So you gonna get rid of your current Vette?

Nope, it will be the DD.

r1owner
08-22-2010, 10:13 PM
Nice man! I agree... 505 is more than enough HP. The suspension and brakes are where it's at!

Good choice! Post up some pics when you get it.

protias
08-23-2010, 10:35 AM
So you gonna get rid of your current Vette?

Nope, it will be the DD.

I was hoping to get a Vette for cheap though. :p

txautofan
08-23-2010, 05:44 PM
d

txautofan
08-23-2010, 05:46 PM
Dad, do you remember me?:D

No, sorry no children here!!!:D

Which is why you can consider a car at that price. I have two private school tutions to cover! LOL!

swarga
08-23-2010, 08:22 PM
I was hoping to get a Vette for cheap though. :p

What do you consider "cheap?"

protias
08-23-2010, 08:26 PM
I was hoping to get a Vette for cheap though. :p

What do you consider "cheap?"

I'd consider one under 30 cheap, but I have seen them under 20 (for a C5).

swarga
08-23-2010, 08:31 PM
I was hoping to get a Vette for cheap though. :p

What do you consider "cheap?"

I'd consider one under 30 cheap

In that case, I'll sell you mine cheap. :D

protias
08-23-2010, 08:33 PM
I was hoping to get a Vette for cheap though. :p

What do you consider "cheap?"

I'd consider one under 30 cheap

In that case, I'll sell you mine cheap. :D

Well, I have no money at the moment... :(

swarga
08-23-2010, 08:42 PM
I was hoping to get a Vette for cheap though. :p

What do you consider "cheap?"

I'd consider one under 30 cheap

In that case, I'll sell you mine cheap. :D

Well, I have no money at the moment... :(

Sorry, I can't let it go that cheap. :p

protias
08-23-2010, 08:45 PM
I was hoping to get a Vette for cheap though. :p

What do you consider "cheap?"

I'd consider one under 30 cheap

In that case, I'll sell you mine cheap. :D

Well, I have no money at the moment... :(

Sorry, I can't let it go that cheap. :p

hahahahaha

I'm looking at a new car, but it is going to have to wait a little while longer (maybe 2012 instead of next year).

swarga
08-23-2010, 08:48 PM
I'm looking at a new car, but it is going to have to wait a little while longer (maybe 2012 instead of next year).

Actually, that would be a good sticky thread: which cars are the easiest to defend? We could come up with a list of makes, models, and years and rank them - our own slant on a Buyer's Guide. ;)

category4
08-24-2010, 06:37 PM
I'm looking at a new car, but it is going to have to wait a little while longer (maybe 2012 instead of next year).

Actually, that would be a good sticky thread: which cars are the easiest to defend? We could come up with a list of makes, models, and years and rank them - our own slant on a Buyer's Guide. ;)

That's a great idea, you should start that thread in the lounge. It would be interesting to see what people think are the easiest vehicles to stealth.

kfmcmahon
09-11-2010, 03:42 PM
Absolutely the ZR1....awesome!

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_NZevSP3w0fo/TH5pTzMD5oI/AAAAAAAABa4/6dunt_GPiVc/s640/IMG_0056.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_NZevSP3w0fo/TH5pUTjXn5I/AAAAAAAABa8/jYPYX1Krics/s640/IMG_0052.JPG


Did test the TT997 mkII and the new GT3....nice cars but not as exciting, to me, as the torquey blown V8!

Gt3 handling/steering and "light" feel is amazing though...a very close second.

Actually a lot of lightly used 2007-08 GT3 RS's on ebay for $100k...maybe I'll add that to the ZR1 next year!!

category4
09-11-2010, 04:26 PM
ZR1 is nice, but I think 638 HP may be too much for me in all actuality. I'm 99percent certain it will be Z06 with the Z07 package.

protias
09-11-2010, 04:34 PM
There is no such thing as too much...take it from the guy who has a messly 135. :(

category4
09-11-2010, 05:00 PM
I already have 436 and I probably have all I can handle now, what I really want is the ZR1 suspension and brake package, which I get with the Z07 package on the Z06.

I then have the option of adding a supercharger if I really ever find I need more power, or by then the C7 will be released and we will see what they have in store for us then.

r1owner
09-11-2010, 09:31 PM
I already have 436 and I probably have all I can handle now, what I really want is the ZR1 suspension and brake package, which I get with the Z07 package on the Z06.

I then have the option of adding a supercharger if I really ever find I need more power, or by then the C7 will be released and we will see what they have in store for us then.

This is the right way to go IMO. I talked to a dude at VIR this summer that has done a lot (and I mean A LOT!) of track days in his Z06. He's an instructor as well. He said the first thing he asks his students what they've done to their car. Almost all respond with HP type mods.... he said he just sighs and wish they would upgrade the suspension. Said the car needs better shocks/swaybars/brakes.....

Z07 is the way to go.

swarga
09-11-2010, 11:18 PM
He's an instructor as well. He said the first thing he asks his students what they've done to their car. Almost all respond with HP type mods.... he said he just sighs and wish they would upgrade the suspension. Said the car needs better shocks/swaybars/brakes.....

Base Corvettes have really cushy suspensions (for a sports car). Must be due to the "old man" demographic that Chevrolet is targeting. :p

lugnuts
09-17-2010, 04:32 PM
what about the Z06 Carbon http://www.sub5zero.com/auto-news/2011-chevrolet-corvette-z06-carbon-le-lighter-faster-stronger

and then mod it. that thing just looks sick.




$150k budget? Sheesh... down payment on a house there guy! ;) Is your company hiring? :D

If it were me and had that much to blow on a car, I'd be checking out the Audi R8. Or get 2 or 3 $50-75k cars!

But given your choices, I'd go for the Vette. You'll have enough left over for a few LI Quad HPs to put all over the car to make it 2000% stealth. ;)

I'm actually probably going to retire, let's just say I made a really good investment a few years back!!!:D

you married a rich women?