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    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    I brought it from a retail store called repco and they got it off a Authorized supplier called Neltronics which appears to be based out of Australia. heres a link take a look for your self Beltronics - Bel-XR MAgnum I

    Beltronics STi Magnum XR NZ-AUS Yes i believe it is a software/firmware mod for the magnum
    Got it now:

    Neltronics

    AUS$772 (before any taxes and/or shipping) for the Magnum XR AUS/NZ.

    US$500 (before any taxes and/or shipping) for the Magnum USA/Canada, at least now we know how much the AUS/NZ software/firmware costs. Pretty damn expensive, right? But sometimes not much you can do, right? Not your fault AUS/NZ cops use some different radar units and/or bands/frequencies not used in USA/Canada at all.

    Just curious, in case one day Beltronics issues a firmware update for the Magnum, maybe next year, maybe in two years, etc., how YOU are gonna be able to update the firmware of your Magnum? Free unlimited updates, maybe? Or you'll have to pay for the software/firmware update?

    Drive safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RW View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    I brought it from a retail store called repco and they got it off a Authorized supplier called Neltronics which appears to be based out of Australia. heres a link take a look for your self Beltronics - Bel-XR MAgnum I

    Beltronics STi Magnum XR NZ-AUS Yes i believe it is a software/firmware mod for the magnum
    Got it now:

    Neltronics

    AUS$772 (before any taxes and/or shipping) for the Magnum XR AUS/NZ.

    US$500 (before any taxes and/or shipping) for the Magnum USA/Canada, at least now we know how much the AUS/NZ software/firmware costs. Pretty damn expensive, right? But sometimes not much you can do, right? Not your fault AUS/NZ cops use some different radar units and/or bands/frequencies not used in USA/Canada at all.

    Just curious, in case one day Beltronics issues a firmware update for the Magnum, maybe next year, maybe in two years, etc., how YOU are gonna be able to update the firmware of your Magnum? Free unlimited updates, maybe? Or you'll have to pay for the software/firmware update?

    Drive safely.

    Chris
    Nope not much i can do about it man that's the way it is. I could of got it abit cheaper off the internet but its risky es when your spending that sorta money on a counter measure. as for the thing you said about our police use radar units that arent used in the usa/canada well our police do use the same units. Stalker DSR Ka 34.7 is used in the usa i have also herd they used the redflex's as well. I think the magnum has some Ka band segmentation

    That's why i made my user name Ka34.739 cos thats what comes up on the tech display.
    Last edited by ka34.739; 12-10-2013 at 11:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    Nope not much i can do about it man that's the way it is. I could of got it abit cheaper off the internet but its risky es when your spending that sorta money on a counter measure. as for the thing you said about our police use radar units that arent used in the usa/canada well our police do use the same units. Stalker DSR Ka 34.7 is used in the usa i have also herd they used the redflex's as well. I think the magnum has some Ka band segmentation

    That's why i made my user name Ka34.739 cos thats what comes up on the tech display.
    - what's redflex?

    - what's Ka band segmentation?

    Been using the STI for 7+ years now, city, hwy, long trips, short trips, any trips, Ontario/Quebec and 48 out of 50 U.S. states, encountered K-band, Ka 33.8, 34.7 and 35.5 and have no freakin' clue on what those term really are or especially mean. Always using the TECH Display, love knowing the frequency of the police radar unit, the only way you're able to find out what radar units are used in your area or ANY area you're driving thru, right?

    Also it must be a sort of difference btwn police radar guns and/or frequencies used in USA/Canada and those in AUS/NZ, I've heard that some sort of different frequency on the K-band spectrum for radar guns used in AUS/NZ, EU as well, cause if no difference AT ALL why the heck a need for International Units with International software/firmware like yours for AUS/NZ, right? My bet is on the frequency for K-band, a bit different than the US/Canada K-band, that's how the issue used to be discussed in this forum 4-7 years ago when totally different ppl were part of the forum, see all stickies, threads and posts before 2009. Prof Jim and rest of the good guys of GOL (special forum section) would tell you right away why the need for AUS/NZ and EU firmware, sadly they are ALL gone from this forum for good. This thread is my first forum participation in 4+ years, as I can see all the old guys are gone for good. Learned a lot from them during those pretty good times.

    Drive safely.

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RW View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    Nope not much i can do about it man that's the way it is. I could of got it abit cheaper off the internet but its risky es when your spending that sorta money on a counter measure. as for the thing you said about our police use radar units that arent used in the usa/canada well our police do use the same units. Stalker DSR Ka 34.7 is used in the usa i have also herd they used the redflex's as well. I think the magnum has some Ka band segmentation

    That's why i made my user name Ka34.739 cos thats what comes up on the tech display.
    - what's redflex?

    - what's Ka band segmentation?

    Been using the STI for 7+ years now, city, hwy, long trips, short trips, any trips, Ontario/Quebec and 48 out of 50 U.S. states, encountered K-band, Ka 33.8, 34.7 and 35.5 and have no freakin' clue on what those term really are or especially mean. Always using the TECH Display, love knowing the frequency of the police radar unit, the only way you're able to find out what radar units are used in your area or ANY area you're driving thru, right?

    Also it must be a sort of difference btwn police radar guns and/or frequencies used in USA/Canada and those in AUS/NZ, I've heard that some sort of different frequency on the K-band spectrum for radar guns used in AUS/NZ, EU as well, cause if no difference AT ALL why the heck a need for International Units with International software/firmware like yours for AUS/NZ, right? My bet is on the frequency for K-band, a bit different than the US/Canada K-band, that's how the issue used to be discussed in this forum 4-7 years ago when totally different ppl were part of the forum, see all stickies, threads and posts before 2009. Prof Jim and rest of the good guys of GOL (special forum section) would tell you right away why the need for AUS/NZ and EU firmware, sadly they are ALL gone from this forum for good. This thread is my first forum participation in 4+ years, as I can see all the old guys are gone for good. Learned a lot from them during those pretty good times.

    Drive safely.

    Chris

    Well Redflex is a company that makes Mobile Speed Cameras in North America. They operate on a very low frequency K band radar
    the beam is projected on an angle making it very difficult to detect.

    So the solution is extend the k band detection range and make a more sensitive detector well that's my understanding.

    What is Ka Band segmentation? well a segment is a part of a thing.

    Eg a part of a house is the living room hope this makes sense?.
    Say you are looking for a tool at your house where would you look for it? in the garage where the tools are kept right? it just wouldn't make any sense at all looking for it in the living room or the bedroom chances are you wont find it there.

    Ka band is a frequency range and much like a house it has parts to it (segments)

    the radar detector is always scanning/searching for radar but rather then have it scan the entire house or range. lets program it to only look for radar in the areas where it will likely find them and skip the ares where it isn't going to find them. this speeds up the search and makes detection quicker.

    Here's another example and its abit shorter

    lets say Ka band is numbers 123456789

    If your detector isn't running segmented scan meaning only looking for certain parts it takes longer.

    It will have to scan from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 to 6 to 7 to 8 to 9.

    if it is scanning number 8 and a radar transmits on number 3 with an instant on shot the detector will miss it = no alert.

    Ok now we will segment the detectors scanning range to only scan number 2 3 and 4.

    Now the detector is only looking or scanning for radar in the range where radar is used.
    a refined search.

    so a radar transmits on number 3 with an instant on shot , the detector picks it up real quick its only got 3 places to look. 2 3 and 4. when it scans no 3 the detector alerts and you here " beep beep Ka band beep beep "
    it doesn't have to scan the other numbers as there wont be anything there.

    It also cuts down on false alerts as well, so now the detector picks up quicker and it has longer range well that's my understanding.

    Heres a video of Ka segmentation if none of my examples make sense.

    The only detectors that I know of that have is the Escort Redline the Valentine 1.
    And the Beltronics Rx65 has a similar mode. it has Ka international which scans everything and Ka USA mode which only scans for radar that is used the the USA.

    Ka USA Mode would be great to use in New Zealand because the Stalker DSR is made in the USA and it transmits on Ka 34.7.


    New RedLine Expert Firmware Response Test - YouTube

    the tech meter is the only way to find out what radars are used in your area?
    Well its one way of knowing the other way is online research eg the radar detector forums other websites.



    As for the radardetector . net forum i don't know many people on here at all just my self ghz1 Veil guy and im getting to know you. I don't know much about the history of it i just come to learn and share knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoadWarrior/RW View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    Nope not much i can do about it man that's the way it is. I could of got it abit cheaper off the internet but its risky es when your spending that sorta money on a counter measure. as for the thing you said about our police use radar units that arent used in the usa/canada well our police do use the same units. Stalker DSR Ka 34.7 is used in the usa i have also herd they used the redflex's as well. I think the magnum has some Ka band segmentation

    That's why i made my user name Ka34.739 cos thats what comes up on the tech display.
    - what's redflex?

    - what's Ka band segmentation?

    Been using the STI for 7+ years now, city, hwy, long trips, short trips, any trips, Ontario/Quebec and 48 out of 50 U.S. states, encountered K-band, Ka 33.8, 34.7 and 35.5 and have no freakin' clue on what those term really are or especially mean. Always using the TECH Display, love knowing the frequency of the police radar unit, the only way you're able to find out what radar units are used in your area or ANY area you're driving thru, right?

    Also it must be a sort of difference btwn police radar guns and/or frequencies used in USA/Canada and those in AUS/NZ, I've heard that some sort of different frequency on the K-band spectrum for radar guns used in AUS/NZ, EU as well, cause if no difference AT ALL why the heck a need for International Units with International software/firmware like yours for AUS/NZ, right? My bet is on the frequency for K-band, a bit different than the US/Canada K-band, that's how the issue used to be discussed in this forum 4-7 years ago when totally different ppl were part of the forum, see all stickies, threads and posts before 2009. Prof Jim and rest of the good guys of GOL (special forum section) would tell you right away why the need for AUS/NZ and EU firmware, sadly they are ALL gone from this forum for good. This thread is my first forum participation in 4+ years, as I can see all the old guys are gone for good. Learned a lot from them during those pretty good times.

    Drive safely.

    Chris

    Well Redflex is a company that makes Mobile Speed Cameras in North America. They operate on a very low frequency K band radar
    the beam is projected on an angle making it very difficult to detect.

    So the solution is extend the k band detection range and make a more sensitive detector well that's my understanding.

    What is Ka Band segmentation? well a segment is a part of a thing.

    Eg a part of a house is the living room hope this makes sense?.
    Say you are looking for a tool at your house where would you look for it? in the garage where the tools are kept right? it just wouldn't make any sense at all looking for it in the living room or the bedroom chances are you wont find it there.

    Ka band is a frequency range and much like a house it has parts to it (segments)

    the radar detector is always scanning/searching for radar but rather then have it scan the entire house or range. lets program it to only look for radar in the areas where it will likely find them and skip the ares where it isn't going to find them. this speeds up the search and makes detection quicker.

    Here's another example and its abit shorter

    lets say Ka band is numbers 123456789

    If your detector isn't running segmented scan meaning only looking for certain parts it takes longer.

    It will have to scan from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 to 6 to 7 to 8 to 9.

    if it is scanning number 8 and a radar transmits on number 3 with an instant on shot the detector will miss it = no alert.

    Ok now we will segment the detectors scanning range to only scan number 2 3 and 4.

    Now the detector is only looking or scanning for radar in the range where radar is used.
    a refined search.

    so a radar transmits on number 3 with an instant on shot , the detector picks it up real quick its only got 3 places to look. 2 3 and 4. when it scans no 3 the detector alerts and you here " beep beep Ka band beep beep "
    it doesn't have to scan the other numbers as there wont be anything there.

    It also cuts down on false alerts as well, so now the detector picks up quicker and it has longer range well that's my understanding.

    Heres a video of Ka segmentation if none of my examples make sense.

    The only detectors that I know of that have is the Escort Redline the Valentine 1.
    And the Beltronics Rx65 has a similar mode. it has Ka international which scans everything and Ka USA mode which only scans for radar that is used the the USA.

    Ka USA Mode would be great to use in New Zealand because the Stalker DSR is made in the USA and it transmits on Ka 34.7.


    New RedLine Expert Firmware Response Test - YouTube

    the tech meter is the only way to find out what radars are used in your area?
    Well its one way of knowing the other way is online research eg the radar detector forums other websites.



    As for the radardetector . net forum i don't know many people on here at all just my self ghz1 Veil guy and im getting to know you. I don't know much about the history of it i just come to learn and share knowledge.

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    When i said instant on i really meant Quick trigger.

    Now back to my theory on the Beltronics STi Magnum XR I think it's segmented on and K Band & Ka band so it only scans for radar used in Australia and New Zealand.

    Making it tuned for NZ and AUS that's my theory anyways oh and the k band is extended so it will detect the Low powered k band radars.

    I am not sure on this theory as i am unable to get an answer from Beltronics or Radar Roy E-mailed both but no reply.
    Maybe it's a secret that they don't want us to know. who really knows.

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    Maybe Neltronics knows the answer I will e-mail them for an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    Well Redflex is a company that makes Mobile Speed Cameras in North America. They operate on a very low frequency K band radar
    the beam is projected on an angle making it very difficult to detect
    1) Redflex is an AUSTRALIAN company.

    Redflex Holdings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://www.redflex.com.au

    2) What you call speed camera, here in North America it's called PHOTO Radar, apparently we have different terminology up here. Photo Radar has been OUTLAWED in Ontario in 1995 (privacy issues) and no govt has ever tried to bring it back, political suicide if they do that. NO PHOTO RADAR IN NORTH AMERICA unless maybe in some very sporadic cases I don't know about yet. If you have any real info with the name of that particular city or jurisdiction, please let me know. Personally I've been driving thru 48 out of 50 U.S. States (no Alaska and Hawaii yet) and NO PHOTO RADAR (fixed camera or parked van) ever showed up around me.

    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    So the solution is extend the k band detection range and make a more sensitive detector well that's my understanding
    That's why you have RDs (Beltronics and Escort) with International software/firmware like the Magnum you are using in NZ, right? No Photo Radar in NA, no need for such new RDs over here.

    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    What is Ka Band segmentation? well a segment is a part of a thing.

    Eg a part of a house is the living room hope this makes sense?.
    Say you are looking for a tool at your house where would you look for it? in the garage where the tools are kept right? it just wouldn't make any sense at all looking for it in the living room or the bedroom chances are you wont find it there.

    Ka band is a frequency range and much like a house it has parts to it (segments)

    the radar detector is always scanning/searching for radar but rather then have it scan the entire house or range. lets program it to only look for radar in the areas where it will likely find them and skip the ares where it isn't going to find them. this speeds up the search and makes detection quicker.

    Here's another example and its abit shorter

    lets say Ka band is numbers 123456789

    If your detector isn't running segmented scan meaning only looking for certain parts it takes longer.

    It will have to scan from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 to 6 to 7 to 8 to 9.

    if it is scanning number 8 and a radar transmits on number 3 with an instant on shot the detector will miss it = no alert.

    Ok now we will segment the detectors scanning range to only scan number 2 3 and 4.

    Now the detector is only looking or scanning for radar in the range where radar is used.
    a refined search.

    so a radar transmits on number 3 with an instant on shot , the detector picks it up real quick its only got 3 places to look. 2 3 and 4. when it scans no 3 the detector alerts and you here " beep beep Ka band beep beep "
    it doesn't have to scan the other numbers as there wont be anything there.

    It also cuts down on false alerts as well, so now the detector picks up quicker and it has longer range well that's my understanding.

    Heres a video of Ka segmentation if none of my examples make sense.

    The only detectors that I know of that have is the Escort Redline the Valentine 1.
    And the Beltronics Rx65 has a similar mode. it has Ka international which scans everything and Ka USA mode which only scans for radar that is used the the USA.

    Ka USA Mode would be great to use in New Zealand because the Stalker DSR is made in the USA and it transmits on Ka 34.7.


    New RedLine Expert Firmware Response Test - YouTube

    the tech meter is the only way to find out what radars are used in your area?
    Well its one way of knowing the other way is online research eg the radar detector forums other websites.



    As for the radardetector . net forum i don't know many people on here at all just my self ghz1 Veil guy and im getting to know you. I don't know much about the history of it i just come to learn and share knowledge.
    Oh mama, you should have asked first IF I plan on applying for a job at Escort as lab technician or engineer, and my answer would have categorically been... NO.

    No disrespect, why I as a driver and RD user really need to know all that scientific stuff you have wasted maybe an hour of your life to write it down, nobody buys an RD b/c of whatever band segmentation, the only reason ppl buy an RD is to properly and effectively help them out in detecting police radar/laser and avoid as much as possible speeding tickets, right? THAT'S IT.
    Last edited by RoadWarrior/RW; 12-12-2013 at 08:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ka34.739 View Post
    Now back to my theory on the Beltronics STi Magnum XR I think it's segmented on and K Band & Ka band so it only scans for radar used in Australia and New Zealand.

    Making it tuned for NZ and AUS that's my theory anyways oh and the k band is extended so it will detect the Low powered k band radars.

    I am not sure on this theory as i am unable to get an answer from Beltronics or Radar Roy E-mailed both but no reply.
    Maybe it's a secret that they don't want us to know. who really knows.
    Sorry I missed this post. Please read my previous post as well.

    YES, the STI Magnum you are using right now it has got that band segmentation you are talking about, it's built on exactly the type of police radar (radar bands AND frequencies) used in AUS and NZ, that's why you've paid double than a brand-new Magnum that's sold up here in NA.

    If you want straight and fast answers from Beltronics, here is the best place for such questions:

    Beltronics Radar Forum - Powered by vBulletin

    As per Roy, he's busy flying his Cessna all over America, he sold the forum in 2008 I think, he used to be owner and sole administrator, extremely knowledgeable in police radar as himself a former AZ Traffic Cop, sadly he's gone from participating into the forum same as most if not all of the initial members of this forum, all my "buddies" I used to exchange hot topics with are all gone as well, if you go for all stickies in any section and look for the year, you'll see what I'm talking about.

    I might be the oldest (since 2005, see my signature) member of the forum, came back after a 4-year "seclusion" period LOL, no idea how long I'm gonna stick around, but IF somebody needs my help, I'll be glad to share my real life experiences with anybody interested in.

    My very first RD was a cordless Escort S2, bought it from Billings, MT in July 2005, that was the main reason I've become member of this forum in the very same year, to learn from experts on how to properly use an RD to my own advantage. Beltronics STI Driver user since Sept 2006.

    Personally I have nothing more to learn about RDs and Police Radar in USA/CAN, but if somebody needs my help, I'll be glad to help out. I'm not interested in how an RD is built, its components, technology, software, firmware, etc., as long as it does everything it's been marketed for. Yes I do care about its modern design, but that's pretty much it. I always concentrate on real life on the open road and NOT analyzing how a product looks like in a laboratory. If a product it's not good, free market is gonna have the final say, if ppl like it, it means it's a good product, if they don't, sales are bad and sooner or later it will be taken off the market.

    Extremely happy with my current STI Driver built 50/08, and that's all that matters for me right now.

    Drive safely.

    Chris
    Last edited by RoadWarrior/RW; 12-12-2013 at 08:43 AM.

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    Well you did ask the question ( What is Ka band segmentation ? ) and i gave you the answer the best way i could.
    Sorry i took so long to explain things.

    No body buys a radar detector because of band segmentation ? well I think the more advanced users do to be honest there are people on youtube that have videos on it so that would indicate some sort of interest.

    You have nothing to learn from these forums? haven't you learned something already from what me and you have been talking about. I can certainly say i have and im great full that's what its all about.

    That's why people buy RD's is for detecting police and avoiding speeding tickets? well Yes but the feature Ka band segmentation helps the RD preform better which will help people with radar detecting radar and aviod tickets.

    Isn't that why you brought a Top Model radar detector because of the performance right?
    other wise you may of brought a cheap cobra.

    Thanks i will have a look on the Beltronics forum for the answer.

 

 

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