Ok well recently ive been out looking at cars and while at a mazda dealerhsip looking at all the Mazda 3's and 6's i saw someone leave the dealership with a 3 and it was haulin. I know they have smaller engines then most cars 1.2-2.0 liter but apparently since they are a rotory engine they haul with some minor upgrades.. CAI and Header+exhaust. Even the guy at the Honda dealership admitted the little 1.2li mazdas would destroy a 1.8 civic. But anyone that has a mazda please reply with how reliable the car has been and its quickness or just overall experiances.
Yoda of Radar
The heck, the Mazda3 is a 2.0 or 2.3 litre piston engine :wink:
avoid the automatic transmissions, they seem to self-destruct rapidly.
ummm, yeah, Rotaries only come on Mazdas that start with "RX" the 3 uses a regular 2.3 petrol, and the 6 uses a 3.0 petrol........ all piston engines...... rotaries come in 1.3 Rotor-2, or 2.0 Rotor-3....... there are 2.6 Rotor-4s lurking about, but good luck finding one
Rotaries are good and quick, they put down good power, and at the same time are extremely light compared to regular piston driven motors.......... but as a trade off it sucks gas faster than the average car with the same power range
as for the rest, Stock-for-Stock Im sure in terms of speed the 3 should be on terms with an Accord, maybe a Civic, but that 2.3 puts down alot more torque than the Civic's 1.8, the Accord would do beter with its 2.4....... but it weighs a whole lot more
Mazdaspeed 3's are pretty quick. It's a 2.3 liter turbo putting down 263 hp and 280 ft pounds.
The regular Mazda 3 is not very quick at all.
Edit: But don't buy a Mazdaspeed 3 right now ... they apparently have a problem with the motor mounts breaking and the engines dropping out. LOL.
Yoda of Radar
Yep they're in those LeMans racers that Mazda put out around 1990... they tend to cost millions of dollars and are hard to find
Originally Posted by Arashi666
I would bet it was a Speed3 but regular 3's can easily destroy most import compacts and the people that drive them tend to be a little heavier footed than your average civic driver. :wink:
I own a 2004 Mazda 6S (3.0L), and to be honest, it's SLOWER in a straight line than most of the sport sedans sold today. It'll out-handle most of them, and in a turning fight, I'd bet on it, but my 3.0L puts out 220HP, where the 3.5L V6 Altima puts down 270.
Here's a 2007 Mazda breakdown for you:
3i: 2.0L I4 engine, 148 HP
3s: 2.3L I4, 156 HP
Speed3: Turbocharged 2.3L DISI, 263 HP
6i: 2.3L I4, 156 HP
6s: 3.0L V6, 212 HP
Speed6: Turbocharged 2.3L DISI, 274 HP
Overall, if I was going in a straight line, I wouldn't choose a regular 3 or 6, but in a turning environment (track or autoX), I'd take my 6 any day.
I'll put either of my 4 door sedans against your 6 in a turning fight. :wink:
Originally Posted by Stealthcb
LOL. We're talking non-turbo here, fella! You're a rally car--completely different animal!
Originally Posted by Obsidian
i wish i could afford a rally car , but as of right now im looking around a 12k budget and my top car picks are... A Mazda speed (any number), Dodge SRT-4 , Nissan SE-R Spec V, Scion Tc (preffered supercharged)