BMW going forced induction? twinturbo

**Brent_Vino** · 07-19-2005, 02:07 AM

inside high-level source at BMW cited saying they are entering the forced induction realm... most likely being entered at the next geneva auto show. badged a 335i, will be a 350hp twin turbo 6 cyclinder monster. with this information, surely the new V8 M3 will now be packing ~450hp to separate the gap from the 335i and the M3.... this jump will more than likely cause the price for the M3 to jump from 50k (currently) to ~70 thousand for the new E90 M3. :shock:

if all this holds true, i may have to trade my M3 in for the twin turbo 3 series in about 3 years. :wink:

many bimmerphiles are not pleased about this since BMW, aside from 2 former models that offered a turbo, has stayed away from forced induction. they have set their pride on power coming from ALL MOTOR, ie: McLaren F1.

i think that as long as they leave the Motorsport division naturally aspirated, it would be ok in my opinion.

**stalker** · 07-22-2005, 05:27 AM

hmm, Id like to see a X5 V8 with twin turbo. I would buy it for sure.

**Brent_Vino** · 07-22-2005, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by stalker

hmm, Id like to see a X5 V8 with twin turbo. I would buy it for sure.

mmmmm maybe a porsche cayenne tt eater, eh? :twisted:

**stalker** · 07-22-2005, 06:06 PM

hell yeah :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

**lordhamster** · 07-23-2005, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Brent_Vino

inside high-level source at BMW cited saying they are entering the forced induction realm... most likely being entered at the next geneva auto show. badged a 335i, will be a 350hp twin turbo 6 cyclinder monster. with this information, surely the new V8 M3 will now be packing ~450hp to separate the gap from the 335i and the M3.... this jump will more than likely cause the price for the M3 to jump from 50k (currently) to ~70 thousand for the new E90 M3. :shock:

if all this holds true, i may have to trade my M3 in for the twin turbo 3 series in about 3 years. :wink:

many bimmerphiles are not pleased about this since BMW, aside from 2 former models that offered a turbo, has stayed away from forced induction. they have set their pride on power coming from ALL MOTOR, ie: McLaren F1.

i think that as long as they leave the Motorsport division naturally aspirated, it would be ok in my opinion.

I'm still not sure I even like the e90s. to me the inside feels cheap compared to the e46s

**Brent_Vino** · 07-23-2005, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by lordhamster

Originally Posted by Brent_Vino

inside high-level source at BMW cited saying they are entering the forced induction realm... most likely being entered at the next geneva auto show. badged a 335i, will be a 350hp twin turbo 6 cyclinder monster. with this information, surely the new V8 M3 will now be packing ~450hp to separate the gap from the 335i and the M3.... this jump will more than likely cause the price for the M3 to jump from 50k (currently) to ~70 thousand for the new E90 M3. :shock:

if all this holds true, i may have to trade my M3 in for the twin turbo 3 series in about 3 years. :wink:

many bimmerphiles are not pleased about this since BMW, aside from 2 former models that offered a turbo, has stayed away from forced induction. they have set their pride on power coming from ALL MOTOR, ie: McLaren F1.

i think that as long as they leave the Motorsport division naturally aspirated, it would be ok in my opinion.

I'm still not sure I even like the e90s. to me the inside feels cheap compared to the e46s

you are correct. this is a common complaint about the e90. when I attended 3 across america, i couldnt help but complain about the interior. bmw is definately moving away from what made BMW, BMW. little by little, they are taking the driver out of the equation. when you have a company that is rumored in making a mini van, it says a lot about where the company is heading in a whole.

**SmaartAasSaabr** · 07-23-2005, 08:52 PM

Well I remember BMW being the Ultimate Driving Machine. Never mind this was a direct rip off a 1965 Pontiac GTO advertisement. Then it became Ultimate Driving Experience.

They used to have ergonomic dashboards that hugged the driver, with clear and consise controls, that looked damn good too. And the cars had nice clean styling, all over.

Now what do you have, a plasma screen and a giant knob on the console and a column shifted automatic with an ingrown toenail on the trunk! Ultimate Driving Machine my ass!

**lordhamster** · 07-24-2005, 08:33 PM

I took my car in for service recently and they gave me the X3 as a loaner. Compared to the X5 I can't tell you how let down I was. The car felt cheap and shoddy compared to other bmws and the x3.

When I recently saw a e90 330i when I was in the showroom I was dissapointed to see the same bangled design for the interior and the instrument cluster.

I'll stick with my e46 where I feel like everything is pointed towards the driver... the way it should be. A nice solidly built car with no shakes nor wobbles.

Once my lease expires I'm going to seriously think about jumping ship, because I really don't like the direction BMW is headed.