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Old 03-27-2008, 08:35 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I think JDS said it best, for the most part, ALL american automakers are junk. They are being outclassed and out-engineered by the Japanese and Germans, although, as we all know, this is not an earth shattering development. With the few exceptions i.e. ( Ford GT, Z06) the bulk of what comes out of Detroit is crap. And for those of you that knock VW's

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Old 03-27-2008, 09:35 PM   #42 (permalink)
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A Z06 is $70k. A GT could never have been touched for under $250
I guess the extra $180K for the GT is for the oil leaks Ford engineered into them. Oil spots under the car before they left the lot.
Super-expensive cars are supposed to leak oil... no oil leaks are for $20k cars. It is like watches... a $50 000 watch will lose two or three hours every year and need repairs every year.
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Old 03-27-2008, 09:49 PM   #43 (permalink)
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The Ford equivalent to a Z06 would be a Ford GT. The Mustang is equivalent to the Camaro. So don't try to make your point by comparing apples and oranges. Fords and Chevys are equally garbage, and although the ultra-rare top-end exotics they produce are pretty cool, they don't really have much relation to the boring rattlecans you see on a daily basis.

As for my "girly hippy cruiser"...my engine is capable of 375 horsepower per liter. Are you familiar with any 1300+ horsepower G35s? No? Didn't think so.

As they say on the Vortex...the 1.8T nevar loses
There are Gs running around with over 1000hp. Dont you worry about that.

And even if it does make 375hp per liter, its still a girls car.

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As for Junky american cars, i'd like to see a list of all the modern american cars you've owned. But until then, you cant talk about how they are junky.
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A Z06 is $70k. A GT could never have been touched for under $250
I guess the extra $180K for the GT is for the oil leaks Ford engineered into them. Oil spots under the car before they left the lot.
Super-expensive FORD cars are supposed to leak oil... no oil leaks are for $20k cars. It is like watches... a $50 000 watch will lose two or three hours every year and need repairs every year.
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:58 PM   #45 (permalink)
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A Z06 is $70k. A GT could never have been touched for under $250
Dumb pricetag notwithstanding, it's still a close equivalent to the Z06.

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It is like watches... a $50 000 watch will lose two or three hours every year and need repairs every year.
Oddly, my expensive watch is a thermocompensated Superquartz Breitling that I simply don't re-set because it never loses enough time to bother, whereas my cheap watch is a pre-1940 mechanical Lanco that loses a couple minutes per day

It sounds logical, and yet with watches, it's weird :?

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There are Gs running around with over 1000hp. Dont you worry about that.
Even if it hits 1000, it's still way behind.

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And even if it does make 375hp per liter, its still a girls car.

Its like trying to polish a turd
Well lets see, MY car is a VW. Your car is an "Infiniti" (Nissan). When you look deep inside a Porsche, you will find parts stamped...
(A) VW
(B) Nissan
(C) Infiniti
(D) I could have gotten a 350Z but I got a slow ugly sedan instead

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As for Junky american cars, i'd like to see a list of all the modern american cars you've owned. But until then, you cant talk about how they are junky.
I think the last one I spent any significant time with was a late '90s Mercury when my parents thought an American station wagon would be a good, practical car. I still remember the transmission falling out of the car on the PA turnpike. Not sure why that surprised any of us, it's not like it had ever run for more than a week or two at a time up until then.

It doesn't really matter though. You don't have to be around these cars long to know they're junk. You just sit down, look around, and you get that feeling you get when you check into a really, really cheap motel in the middle of nowhere.
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Its like trying to polish a turd [/]Well lets see, MY car is a VW. Your car is an "Infiniti" (Nissan). When you look deep inside a Porsche, you will find parts stamped...
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Old 03-28-2008, 08:09 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Well that too, but that's entirely beside my point.

If BOSCH built an entire car, I'd probably buy it
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A Z06 is $70k. A GT could never have been touched for under $250
Dumb pricetag notwithstanding, it's still a close equivalent to the Z06.

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It is like watches... a $50 000 watch will lose two or three hours every year and need repairs every year.
Oddly, my expensive watch is a thermocompensated Superquartz Breitling that I simply don't re-set because it never loses enough time to bother, whereas my cheap watch is a pre-1940 mechanical Lanco that loses a couple minutes per day

It sounds logical, and yet with watches, it's weird :?

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There are Gs running around with over 1000hp. Dont you worry about that.
Even if it hits 1000, it's still way behind.

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And even if it does make 375hp per liter, its still a girls car.

Its like trying to polish a turd
Well lets see, MY car is a VW. Your car is an "Infiniti" (Nissan). When you look deep inside a Porsche, you will find parts stamped...
(A) VW
(B) Nissan
(C) Infiniti
(D) I could have gotten a 350Z but I got a slow ugly sedan instead

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As for Junky american cars, i'd like to see a list of all the modern american cars you've owned. But until then, you cant talk about how they are junky.
I think the last one I spent any significant time with was a late '90s Mercury when my parents thought an American station wagon would be a good, practical car. I still remember the transmission falling out of the car on the PA turnpike. Not sure why that surprised any of us, it's not like it had ever run for more than a week or two at a time up until then.

It doesn't really matter though. You don't have to be around these cars long to know they're junk. You just sit down, look around, and you get that feeling you get when you check into a really, really cheap motel in the middle of nowhere.
A 90s Mercury? Compared to a newer car?

Thats the most pathetic excuse at a 'car review' i'v ever heard.

And In all honesty, i think VW interiors are quite cheap.
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Well that too, but that's entirely beside my point.

If BOSCH built an entire car, I'd probably buy it
You know that $2 500 Tata Nano car? The engine is made by BOSCH :P
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