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Re: Nissan Titan tried to race me tonight.
That is called a rabbit in my book
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03-24-2009 12:33 PM
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Re: Nissan Titan tried to race me tonight.

Originally Posted by
Gator Bite
You'd be surprised how many diesel pickup trucks I've been challenged by. I'm driving a Cayman S. It's not the most powerful or fastest car out there, but lay into it and it definitely scoots. Let it roll up top, and you will see 170+. I'm carrying less than 10 lbs per horsepower. For a 6,500 lb truck to run with me, they'll need more than 650 hp. I know there are some out there with that, but please come on, a pickup truck....?
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dont under estimate us Diesels!!! weve got it packin and you wouldnt know! 
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-nU2qj580"]YouTube - Dodge Viper vs. Dodge Ram Diesel[/ame]
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Re: Nissan Titan tried to race me tonight.

Originally Posted by
Gator Bite
You'd be surprised how many diesel pickup trucks I've been challenged by. I'm driving a Cayman S. It's not the most powerful or fastest car out there, but lay into it and it definitely scoots. Let it roll up top, and you will see 170+. I'm carrying less than 10 lbs per horsepower. For a 6,500 lb truck to run with me, they'll need more than 650 hp. I know there are some out there with that, but please come on, a pickup truck....?
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dont under estimate us Diesels!!! weve got it packin and you wouldnt know!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B-nU2qj580"]YouTube - Dodge Viper vs. Dodge Ram Diesel[/ame]
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Re: Nissan Titan tried to race me tonight.
I think the Viper spun it's wheels for about the first 5 seconds of that race.
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Re: Nissan Titan tried to race me tonight.

Originally Posted by
QuickCummins
dont under estimate us Diesels!!! weve got it packin and you wouldnt know!
Yeah, I'm aware that with the proper mods those things can spit out 1,000 horsepower. But I haven't encountered any of those yet.
I suspect that the few I've come across have had an ECU tune that has pushed their boost up, probably making them a lot faster than stock, but still not fast enough to out run my CS which will get to 60 in 4.8 seconds and through the 1/4 mile in 13.2 (if driven right of course).
At 6,500 lbs, they would need 650 hp to match my power to weight ratio. But in reality, a 6,500 lb truck would need more like 750-800 hp to overcome not only it's mass, but it's rotational loss. All are automatic shift, which absorbs a lot of power, and with just the rear wheel pushing, a 650 hp engine would simply smoke the rear tires, so they would need 4 wheel drive, adding more rotational friction and power loss. Then there is also the factor of aerodynamic drag, which is huge on those full size pickups, compared to a Cayman's very slippert 0.28 cd multiplied by it's tiny frontal area. That's why I estimate it would take 750-800 hp in a truck to outrun a 300 hp sports car. On the highway, above 65 mph, I don't think you could put enough power in a pickup to make it keep up.

Originally Posted by
upstatedoc
I think the Viper spun it's wheels for about the first 5 seconds of that race.

Could be, but that truck and the Viper still crossed the 1/4 mile in 11 seconds....
Wow...!
Last edited by Gator Bite; 03-25-2009 at 08:32 AM.
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Re: Nissan Titan tried to race me tonight.
[quote=Gator Bite;521514]Yeah, I'm aware that with the proper mods those things can spit out 1,000 horsepower. But I haven't encountered any of those yet.
I suspect that the few I've come across have had an ECU tune that has pushed their boost up, probably making them a lot faster than stock, but still not fast enough to out run my CS which will get to 60 in 4.8 seconds and through the 1/4 mile in 13.2 (if driven right of course).
At 6,500 lbs, they would need 650 hp to match my power to weight ratio. But in reality, a 6,500 lb truck would need more like 750-800 hp to overcome not only it's mass, but it's rotational loss. All are automatic shift, which absorbs a lot of power, and with just the rear wheel pushing, a 650 hp engine would simply smoke the rear tires, so they would need 4 wheel drive, adding more rotational friction and power loss. Then there is also the factor of aerodynamic drag, which is huge on those full size pickups, compared to a Cayman's very slippert 0.28 cd multiplied by it's tiny frontal area. That's why I estimate it would take 750-800 hp in a truck to outrun a 300 hp sports car. On the highway, above 65 mph, I don't think you could put enough power in a pickup to make it keep up. quote]
WOW you can read the brochure..jk.......... i agree that after 100mph you would pull away, at least i would hope so, but up to you can be hung with by some diesels even beat'n
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Re: Nissan Titan tried to race me tonight.

Originally Posted by
QuickCummins
WOW you can read the brochure..jk.......... i agree that after 100mph you would pull away, at least i would hope so, but up to you can be hung with by some diesels even beat'n
Understood.... I know that great things are possible with diesels, especially when turbos are involved.
Not quoting the brochure. More speaking from experience.
I track the car and I've run away from some very powerful cars from 100 up. Cars that I did not expect to get away from. (A modified Bullitt Mustang and a Challenger SRT-8). I've also spent a couple of weeks ripping up the German autobahn. Cruising at 165 mph is spine tingling... The Cayman S starts to really battle the wind at about 150 mph. From there on up it picks up speed at a noticably slower rate. But up to 150, it just cuts through the air.
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Re: Nissan Titan tried to race me tonight.
The problem is to do 11's in a truck you have to spend a fair amount of money. Look at the mods in the vid......
Twin turbos, cam, fuel contoroller, Nitrous, built transmission, etc. $$$$$
You could do that to any car and make it faster than a viper.
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