New detector equals max and v1 in range

[lugnuts]

I would garrentee that if GOL or any other reputable testing group tested this detector against the max and V1 that it would get smoked.

pay SML enough money and they will tell you a lump of coal would beat a V1 or Max at detection. lol

So what your saying is Speedzones were a bunch of liars then ? Seriously ? What motivation would they have ? All detector companies are allowed to have representatives at the tests.

and they observe and cross check the tests and make sure they are honest.

Your accusations are just plain banal and partisan.

Gol doesn't do tests anymore and if you threw a hooters party with free pizza and beer for the other group they would no doubt do what you accuse speedzones of doing falsely.

WHO crosschecks them but THEMSELVES.

I have conversed with Cal Fors over the years on several occasion and he has always been a classy fellow.

The other group not so much.

We welcome cross checks Buck. Bring on the competitors! Oh, and when was the last time you tested or even attended a testing session?

A: Never

Thought so!

I always love people who end a strawman argument with the phrase.."thought so.."

I was offered a chance to attend these tests many times but frankly could see no benefit baking in the desert and fighting off rattle snakes to do it as all the detector companies do cross checks off these test for procedures

when is the last time you ever had any leos or ANY rd manufactures at your tests to cross check them?

THOUGHT SO !

if these test were "fixed" the frist thing any rd company would do is quit them and never attend again but strangely they keep attending.

In fact carl will apparently be continuing testing their products in private for them which shows how much they believe in the tests and the man.

can you say the same thing?

THOUGH T SO !

ok I gues you are challenged so we need to spell it out for you.

yes the manufacturer reps are there to "watch over" testing BUT they are not testing off the shelf units they are testing MAANUFACTURER SUPPLIED JUICED UP units.

As a consumer I would not want a manufacturer rep at a testing event in fact I wouldnt want the manufacturer to even know about the testing. you see you are only going to get real testing when done blind. meaning to take random off the shelf products and test them by an impartial group. SML does not do this nor are they impartial, so their results are nul and void.

ever see how consumer reports tests products? that is a far better method then what SML does.

as for SML still doing testing for the manufacturers wopty doo they will charge them $6-10k for the testing, yea thats real reliable impartial testing.

[lugnuts]

I will just put this here for your reading:
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...who-trust.html
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...l-test-up.html
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...ml-2011-a.html
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...ults-joke.html

as for GOL you may be surprised, they are still around.

SIR, you can post YOUR opinion as long as you never disagree with BUCK. HEY, we do no care if your opinion is right as long as you agree with BUCK. He is running this forum now.

I knew this place went down hill but didnt realize how bad it really is, I feel bad for the newbs that come here looking for real advice.

[Buckdarma]

I would garrentee that if GOL or any other reputable testing group tested this detector against the max and V1 that it would get smoked.

pay SML enough money and they will tell you a lump of coal would beat a V1 or Max at detection. lol

So what your saying is Speedzones were a bunch of liars then ? Seriously ? What motivation would they have ? All detector companies are allowed to have representatives at the tests.

and they observe and cross check the tests and make sure they are honest.

Your accusations are just plain banal and partisan.

Gol doesn't do tests anymore and if you threw a hooters party with free pizza and beer for the other group they would no doubt do what you accuse speedzones of doing falsely.

WHO crosschecks them but THEMSELVES.

I have conversed with Cal Fors over the years on several occasion and he has always been a classy fellow.

The other group not so much.

We welcome cross checks Buck. Bring on the competitors! Oh, and when was the last time you tested or even attended a testing session?

A: Never

Thought so!

I always love people who end a strawman argument with the phrase.."thought so.."

I was offered a chance to attend these tests many times but frankly could see no benefit baking in the desert and fighting off rattle snakes to do it as all the detector companies do cross checks off these test for procedures

when is the last time you ever had any leos or ANY rd manufactures at your tests to cross check them?

THOUGHT SO !

if these test were "fixed" the frist thing any rd company would do is quit them and never attend again but strangely they keep attending.

In fact carl will apparently be continuing testing their products in private for them which shows how much they believe in the tests and the man.

can you say the same thing?

THOUGH T SO !

ok I gues you are challenged so we need to spell it out for you.

yes the manufacturer reps are there to "watch over" testing BUT they are not testing off the shelf units they are testing MAANUFACTURER SUPPLIED JUICED UP units.

As a consumer I would not want a manufacturer rep at a testing event in fact I wouldnt want the manufacturer to even know about the testing. you see you are only going to get real testing when done blind. meaning to take random off the shelf products and test them by an impartial group. SML does not do this nor are they impartial, so their results are nul and void.

ever see how consumer reports tests products? that is a far better method then what SML does.

as for SML still doing testing for the manufacturers wopty doo they will charge them $6-10k for the testing, yea thats real reliable impartial testing.

actually there isn't much they can "juice up" with these units other then make sure they are operating correctly and tuned properly.

They aren't hotrodded 55 chevy's

I am quite sure the manufactures furthermore privately test other detectors on the q/t and and then take them apart to see what is what.

any huge unusual standout performer would be noticed by all

Of course detectors vary a bit between production batches of course. Do you expect the manufactures to bring to the test the worst of these runs ?

If you buy a detector from any manufacturer and are not happy with it you can certainly have checked for proper operation.

[Jag42]

Mike Batton will test a retail new Cobra in his lab just like the Vandetta was all BS hype.

[Buckdarma]

Mike Batton will test a retail new Cobra in his lab just like the Vandetta was all BS hype.

I have been using the vendetta for quite a while now and have actually been pretty happy with it unlike the Whistler 78 Se I own. It is very comparable to the Bell 995 in performance in fact. The 78SE is very spotty to say the least in performance. Sometimes it was great but more often then not it really sucked.

Hope the "new' badge engineered one is a lot better.

I should ebay it to make up for the money I wasted on it but it makes a real nice 35.5 radar source

[Buckdarma]

Too funny ! the folks at the rd brand x forums are all furiously ordering the new Cobra detector 7800 to try to prove how bad it is !
Cobra's rd electronic stock just shot up more then a few notches because of this. LOL

Cobras new SPX radar/laser detectors - Page 5 - Radar Detector & Laser Jammer Forum

of course they won't EVER use the testing area S/S does to test this detector against the V1 and escort models as Carl does you know.

which would actually show if s/s was lying or not in his new test and which is what they constantly accused him of.

Nope , just some random road closest to their nearest Hooters.

Your so predictable

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptDz5BwAgXQ

[Buckdarma]

Shop NBC is sure to love the added business.

[CJRadar]

Too funny ! the folks at the rd brand x forums are all furiously ordering the new Cobra detector 7800 to try to prove how bad it is !
Cobra's rd electronic stock just shot up more then a few notches because of this. LOL

Cobras new SPX radar/laser detectors - Page 5 - Radar Detector & Laser Jammer Forum

of course they won't EVER use the testing area S/S does to test this detector against the V1 and escort models as Carl does you know.

which would actually show if s/s was lying or not in his new test and which is what they constantly accused him of.

Nope , just some random road closest to their nearest Hooters.

Your so predictable

The Rolling Stones - Respectable - OFFICIAL PROMO - YouTube

Seriously? Some Cobras are not bad units, just look at some of the testing done on (as you say brand X forum by there independent groups) the vendetta actually didn't do too bad on K band and is a nice unit. But when compared to the top dogs (V1, Redline, Max) they come up very short on Ka band so suggesting they are as good as your saying is misinformed and bad info to anyone new.

Also looks like you are linking to the other forum which sells used and violates rule #3 of RD.net.

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Also looks like you are linking to the other forum which sells used and violates rule #3 of RD.net.

Errrr..it's sort of a gray area actually….. a link to a link…...

Let's keep it clean and constructive guys….

Thank you.

Cliff

[Buckdarma]

Too funny ! the folks at the rd brand x forums are all furiously ordering the new Cobra detector 7800 to try to prove how bad it is !
Cobra's rd electronic stock just shot up more then a few notches because of this. LOL

Cobras new SPX radar/laser detectors - Page 5 - Radar Detector & Laser Jammer Forum

of course they won't EVER use the testing area S/S does to test this detector against the V1 and escort models as Carl does you know.

which would actually show if s/s was lying or not in his new test and which is what they constantly accused him of.

Nope , just some random road closest to their nearest Hooters.

Your so predictable

The Rolling Stones - Respectable - OFFICIAL PROMO - YouTube

Seriously? Some Cobras are not bad units, just look at some of the testing done on (as you say brand X forum by there independent groups) the vendetta actually didn't do too bad on K band and is a nice unit. But when compared to the top dogs (V1, Redline, Max) they come up very short on Ka band so suggesting they are as good as your saying is misinformed and bad info to anyone new.

Says who exactly?

Your little amateur testing group of course that's who.

I can't recall ever seeing your group approve of ANY other testing site that goes against your own personal findings whatsoever. Everyone but you is of course suspect of being on the take

including R/R !

who you regularly attack over there and on his own forum here to boot ! lol

In fact ANY people that do post test reviews or opinions or whatever that don't adhere to your own personal guidelines are TROLLED and ATTACKED and VILIFIED

This forum is pretty peaceful and nice till anyone dares do that. It isn't bad enough you do it there but you bring these childish juvenile attitudes over here to boot.

amazing

Also looks like you are linking to the other forum which sells used and violates rule #3 of RD.net.

It's a secondary source but lets not be bothered by that fact. Never bothered you posters from there before did it till now?

This further posting confirms just what I said in my first statement.

It's a "veiled threat " pure and simple. I am sure if we look into YOUR back posts we can find similar things can we not.




CJ you guys really need more then a bit of growing up. Seriously. Go defend something truly worthwhile like the constitution and civil rights.

but before you do you should first look at the The Freedom of Speech Clause of the First Amendment