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    Well done GOL for all the hardwork.... The results look impressive...Many followers of this forum appreciate all the effort and time that went into this test.

    I am actually very impressed with Laser interceptor... Tell me, does LI use laser diodes? Cos there retailing units use LED's at the moment... correct?

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    I think they were diodes.

    Yes, the LI looks very promising. Just hope they don't cost much :P

    Weird that the ZR3 was better at jamming 100 pps Ultralytes than the more common 125 pps version.

    Well the LPP held up. Guess I'll have to get some more money to get a second head up front. :P Seemed to have some trouble with the LA, though. As long as I don't encounter it


    Overall, great test GOL.

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    Yes, good tests and thank you. I did have one question though, on the page, it says the Bel RX-55was supplied by Whistler? I assume this was just a typo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxima lover
    Yes, good tests and thank you. I did have one question though, on the page, it says the Bel RX-55was supplied by Whistler? I assume this was just a typo.
    No. It was supplied by Whislter since their Pro 78 and XTR690 was designed to compete with the RX55
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    Default No easy answers

    Our choices are still hard. LI prototype looks very good (dual diodes per head, potentially cheaper price reported at $400 for dual head with a 4 port box), but may potentially suffer from durability/manufacturing issues. Also, this is just a prototype and the designer was present at the tests, so it is very uncertain if a retail version would be as good, how long we will wait for it, or even if it will arrive at all.

    AL8 looked good, but there are some reports of heads going bad after 6 months.

    LPP benefits from apparently better manufacturing made in England, the appearance of legality for those of us in outlaw states (it is a "parking sensor"). But, it is pricey at $800 for dual head $500 for single, only 2 ports on the box, only one diode per head, it looked very poor against the Atlanta, and the software updates / technology may lag behind AL8 and LI.

    What to do? .... Just wait? Then again ... What if you've got 2 tickets this year?

    Good luck to all.

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    FIRST, A BIG "THANK YOU" to the GOL 8)

    Also, a couple of follow-up questions

    (1) The version (hardware and software, each if applicable) of both the AntiLaser and LaserProPark units? :?:

    (2) Has the Escort ZR3 undergone any soft/firm-ware updates/revisions since their initial outing? :?:

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    Quote Originally Posted by car
    Our choices are still hard.
    Agreed.

    LI prototype looks very good (dual diodes per head, potentially cheaper price reported at $400 for dual head with a 4 port box), but may potentially suffer from durability/manufacturing issues. Also, this is just a prototype and the designer was present at the tests, so it is very uncertain if a retail version would be as good, how long we will wait for it, or even if it will arrive at all.
    All valid concerns.

    AL8 looked good, but there are some reports of heads going bad after 6 months.
    Currently, that's the chief worry - at least as I see it.

    Secondary concerns would be the shipping costs and check-throughs at Customs. To some, however, these two concerns may not matter at all.

    LPP benefits from apparently better manufacturing made in England...
    ^ This has yet to be fully verified. In so far as I think we can all say, the UK-made units just have not been in-service quite long enough, yet. To me, this is currently a wild-card issue.

    ...the appearance of legality for those of us in outlaw states (it is a "parking sensor").
    That's exactly what it is, though - "the appearance of legality." Be careful about this.

    But, it is pricey at $800 for dual head $500 for single, only 2 ports on the box, only one diode per head...
    Yes, the cost is high - but shipping concerns are somewhat nullified.

    As for the hardware issues, there is reportedly a 4-port enabled control-box coming within weeks. Per the single-diode per-head, to be fair, that's gotta be said of the AL, too.

    it looked very poor against the Atlanta, and the software updates / technology may lag behind AL8 and LI.
    Against the LaserInterceptor, the issue of performance is definitely a wildcard; I don't think that we can make any assessments until production LIs start coming around.

    Versus the AL, I would say that yes, it definitely seems that the LPP can improve - not in so much as "true-JTGs" are concerned (notice the consistently low PT numbers on the LPP), but rather that there definitely needs to be improvements made to cover for a broader spectrum of enforcement hardware.

    What to do? .... Just wait? Then again ... What if you've got 2 tickets this year?
    I honestly don't know if I'd wait for the LaserInterceptor......the issue here would be how soon the retail units come to-market, and also when members of our community could undertake proper testing of said units.

    If I *had* to make a choice right-now, I'd go with AL or LPP if "performance" was the top concern, and bias more towards LPP if shipping/Customs is an issue for you.

    On the other hand, if budget concerns come into this, I would just as well choose the Blinder - or even the ZR3, if it matches your local enforcement profile well - and bank the known Customer Service. The issue, of course, with either the Blinder or the Escort would be the need to obtain professional installation in order to keep their warranty intact. This may add quite a bit to overall costs.

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    Default More hard choices...

    Yes... thanks to GOL and to Radar Roy for supporting the forum and the tests. Thanks to other bloggers for being kind.

    Other hard choices...
    Cut a hole in the grill of an expensive car or stick it under the bumper 20 inches below the license plate? One sensor or 4? Should we cover our hind ends?

    I guess we should just be grateful that we have any effective choices at all. I think the point is that we are definitely on the cutting edge of an emerging technology and our choices should be much easier in 5 years, possibly even 6 months.

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    Default Re: More hard choices...

    Quote Originally Posted by car
    Other hard choices...
    Cut a hole in the grill of an expensive car or stick it under the bumper 20 inches below the license plate? One sensor or 4?
    I think that the need to modify exterior panels or other such constructs on your automobile necessarily must be an individual choice.

    Not each vehicle is configured the same way as others (i.e. units like the AL and LPP fit, nearly without modification, in to the "rectangular" grill openings of various late-model Audis and Volvos), and individuals' concerns about aesthetics (or even if the vehicle is leased and thus cannot undergo extensive modification) -vs- performance, when it comes to such compromises, must also be taken into account.

    Furthermore, individual needs/requirements in covering known hard-points, such as widely (but low-placed) lights and/or the need to have a front plate can all greatly affect how such selection (number of heads, placement of heads, "bubble," etc.) must be made.

    Should we cover our hind ends?
    This is something that's of great concern to more and more of us.

    Personally, I do not feel that there's been enough independent testing of various setups and hardware to conclusively say, one way or the other, regarding this issue.

    It's been shown that even a single diode-based jammer of good-to-excellent effectiveness, such as the LPP, is barely - if at all - sufficient to cover the rear of a mid-sized family sedan that otherwise has no glaring hard-point issues. With average PTs "from gun" of around 500 ft., one must ask "is this enough."

    I guess we should just be grateful that we have any effective choices at all. I think the point is that we are definitely on the cutting edge of an emerging technology and our choices should be much easier in 5 years, possibly even 6 months.
    Well said. Well said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSi+WRX

    Also, a question - the version (hardware and software, each if applicable) of both the AntiLaser and LaserProPark units? :?:
    The AL was the AL Guardian 8 Quad(same as the G8 just able to have 4 heads). And the LPP was the most updated hardware and software
    What to do? .... Just wait? Then again ... What if you've got 2 tickets this year?
    I honestly don't know if I'd wait for the LaserInterceptor......the issue here would be how soon the retail units come to-market, and also when members of our community could undertake proper testing of said units.

    If I *had* to make a choice right-now, I'd go with AL or LPP if "performance" was the top concern, and bias more towards LPP if shipping/Customs is an issue for you.

    On the other hand, if budget concerns come into this, I would just as well choose the Blinder - or even the ZR3, if it matches your local enforcement profile well - and bank the known Customer Service. The issue, of course, with either the Blinder or the Escort would be the need to obtain professional installation in order to keep their warranty intact. This may add quite a bit to overall costs.[/quote]April 10th is the release date of the Laser Interceptor. The promising thing on the Laser Interceptor is that they trying to go through the paper work to sell this jammer in retailers in the USA.

    There are some cool features that this jammer has but I am waiting till the production version is out and tested

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