What Would You Want See Tested At GOL 2011?

[1DREAM2REALITY]

What tests would you like to see happen at the GOL 2011 tests? Since GOL admins do not have time to ask for opinions, I wanted to start this thread to get it moving. If we don't put pressure on them, we won't get anywhere!

[Weeth]

Compare different RD's against forward facing radar.

[atticuss187]

OFF AXIS LIDAR testing

[nate4488]

35.5 on and off axis and qt

[Hunter]

Off axis and tests the to RD's very comparisons.

[Frenzy]

Many terrain challenges, hills and curves. Any RD will pick up C/O with zero challenge. Maybe some tough terrain I/O, and find it's max range. This will let us know how far can we let a rabbit get ahead.

[johndoesix]

ProLaser 4.

[Swamp]

For radar detectors, I think some testing of how often units false would be relevant. I don't mean picking up falses like door openers and such, but rather Ka falses from things like leaky detectors and other sources (satellite feeds) that are not related to legitimate police radar, and things like lidar falses around airports.
It's all very well and good if running a V1 with Ka-guard off gives it killer detection abilities, but if it falses to Ka every 10 minutes and you have to slam on the brakes every time, not knowing whether its a real of false alert, what good is it?
My Whistler 3600 is useless within 2 miles of the Nashville airport due to laser falses, and I had to set the Ka filter to level 3 to get the Ka falsing--I mean total BS falsing with nothing around--under control.
My STi-R+ is border line on Ka falses with RDR turned off; the saving grace is that the falses are virtually always 33.7 or 33.8 GHz, and only 34.7 and 35.5 are present in my local area, so a quick glance at the display tells me what I need to know.
How well a RD detects radar is only one part of the picture; how well you can live with it in your cab day after day, mile after mile, in town and country, city and highway, is a whole 'nother story.

[VanMan]

Models...
-Valentine: The V1.7, the early V1.8, the V1.8.613 (or whatever the golden one is), V1.8.372 and V1.8.373
-Escort 9500ix, 9500ci, Redline, 8500X50 with TSR and current firmware, older X50 without TSR and updated firmware, 8500 Classic that has been refurbbed by the factory, 8500 Classic that has not, 7500S, 7500 Classic, Solo, Solo S2, and Solo S3
-Beltronics Sti-D, StiR, StiR Plus, 955, 995, old 985, GX65, RX65, and their entry levels.
-A few Cobras
-Low and mid-end Whistlers
-An emphasis on window mounted versus remote mounted given the commonality of window units due to cost and installation differences

Why am I saying test these old models? Because I guarantee you that the 7500S will outperform the majority of other detectors (as will the V1.7). I am far more interested in the 7500S though. Why? You can find the 7500S for $50 in almost new condition, and it is a higher end unit that has been designed and produced by Escort and not some junk company, and it performs well even by today's standards. I argue it is the #1 value that no one ever gives any credit whatsoever and you will find it to outperform most detectors on the market that are not made by the big 2. Why the Bel choices? Let's see the Sti series in a side-by-side comparison. Why the overlap of Escort and Bel models? Lets see some side-by-side as well. Why all the Solos? I don't think the S3 performs any better than the S2 to justify upgrading. I own many of the above models and I can tell you that a detection difference exists between the 8500 and (the early, non-TSR model) 8500 X50 from their factory capability to their refurbbed capability, as Escort obviously has since upgraded the firmware and IMO these units perform even better than they did in their original state.

Actual Tests...
-Instant-on/QT. As common as this is getting, it should continue to be a primary focal point.
-Off Axis, as said. Very few roads are completely flat and knowing a unit can detect a signal from 16 miles away on a road flatter than a board really has no value.
-Photocop; more than just the photo-cop, we need to look at ultra-low powered Ka-band signals (33.8 GHz IIRC) with extremely narrowly fixed beams and a design that reduces radar signature to the point in which a mile long warning is almost unheard of. Both the Redine and current V1 do this very well, but what about other models? This is a hard signal to detect and while the two above mentioned do it very, very well, their warnings are often under 1/4 of a mile and that 1/4-1/2 mile warning is the best. So what happens with the less sensitive models?
-Multiple plane testing-take off axis to a more complex route. Let's look at differences in elevation AND on angles AND with barriers such as dense forests that reduce radar signature greatly.
-THEN let's do the above again, but put even more emphasis on the degrees of protection each horn provides.
-LIDAR scatter, as said; including off-axis (which is really a test for the V1)
-NOW, the big one. Let's see how weather impacts all of the above. Do the same test for day and then do night. Do wet, and then do dry. Do two days that are different in barometric pressure. Do humid and then do non-humid. Do hotter and then do colder. There are many, many trends in performance affected by this. I would love to see how the deviation in background radiation affects performance but this is harder to do and creating any sort of man-made ionizing radiation is potentially harmful to the people close by.
-Interference testing; let's see what other things set these things off and let's see how big of a difference the interference causes (ex: Test a V1 and Redline both alone, and then together mounted far apart, and then again together mounted closer).
-Detection of the new 'unjammable' LIDAR guns

[dizwiz24]

Test of new v1 3.873 (I have one) w software that eliminates k band falsimg due to traffic monitors in ohio. Make sure k band performance isn't compromised with this.

Also, someone mentioned radar gun 'capture range' vs. 'detection range'. This would be interesting, especially with some of these ultra low powered guns. To determine which guns are low power look at their mW rating.

If nearby ohio, Id love to get my veil treated retracrable headlight black c4 vette in front of the lidar guns to see if there is any inherent stealth in it. I get long duration V1 laser alerts with this vehicle (which may indicate it takes a few attempts to get a fix) vs. my chrome grill 09 silverado where alerts are short.

Finally, id love it if someone had new license plate readers to see if laser veil really does block the ir beam these things use to illuminate the plate and make a veil treated plate unreadable.