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The reason it turned off was because I got punch through with the LTI, when we watched the video on edweird's camera imediately after shooting, the LPP was transmitting everytime I was shooting and only turning off when I got punch through and stopped shooting
^ Ah! Thanks for the clarification!
__________________ - Allen / Usual Suspect "DumboRAT" / One of the Three Stooges
I don't know. The GOL test didn't really show any problems with the PLIII. Granted it was a 2 head system. Here's what I think. Since the Stalker is so bright (it's supposed to be the brightest one, right?), it's easy to detect. This might explain why I did "good" against the Stalker. Also, I have a 9-month old application of Veil on the headlights.
I really don't know how bright the PLIII is, but it's just a theory.
But yea, a lot of it is from the fact that it's a single head on a larger vehicle.
__________________ Beltronics STI
Escort 8500 x50 Red Rev 6.1 2 head PASS + 1 LPP head, PASS box
ZR4 for backup/TruSpeed. -Laser Hits:7, Saves:3 out of 3 (LPP front single)
-Laser Hits:0, Saves:0 out of 0 (New setup)
-Radar Hits: Too many to list, Saves: 7
-"Eye" saves: 2
I'm gonna take a wild guess here since I've worked in signal processing. I believe the PL3 might have a different pps after the tune, it's originally 125pps right? perhaps after the tune it's 126pps? But it just a guess...
I don't know. The GOL test didn't really show any problems with the PLIII. Granted it was a 2 head system. Here's what I think. Since the Stalker is so bright (it's supposed to be the brightest one, right?), it's easy to detect. This might explain why I did "good" against the Stalker. Also, I have a 9-month old application of Veil on the headlights.
I really don't know how bright the PLIII is, but it's just a theory.
But yea, a lot of it is from the fact that it's a single head on a larger vehicle.
a PT is never a single reason to explain.
as far as a success jamming goes, there are other experts who can give lecture on this. but in sum, there are four parts
1) a good detection hardware and algorithm
2) a powerful light source
3) a good jamming algorithm
4) last but not least, how steady and skillful a lidar gun operator is also plays important role.
so yes, stalker is brighter compare to say LTI or Pro3, but being brighter may mean easier to detect but not necessary means easier to jam (i.e. ZR3 has great receiving capability but we know how suck it is aagainst stalker).
another example is the so called "prototype" LI in GOL 2007. it was more than enough power (dual diodes per head), yet it failed to jam perfectly against the stalker. So here shows a good jamming algorithm is critical .
so it's not "tweaked" lidar gun (there is no point to tweak, and you can't really tweak a gun unless you re-write the whole gun software ). It is simply not enough coverage by single head. IMHO
Cool, thanks for the info. Yea, I'm just brain storming here. The answer is almost 100% that there simply is not enough coverage.
But to your ZR3 example against the Stalker, I'm going to guess the ZR3 only meets 2 of the 4 requirements (1 and 3.) Maybe the Stalker was made specifically made to counter the "weaker" LED jammers as these jammers would be the most prominent threat the laser guns in the US (considering how Blinder and ZR3 are both established, legal companies in the US, most cars with jammers will probably have these.) This could also explain why LPP and AL do good against this gun, since they meet 3 of the 4 requirements you listed (1,2, and 3.)
As for the LI, well, I'm going to guess it didn't meet number 3, since, if I understood right, Ivan didn't have access to a Stalker for testing. This would also explain why, after some work, the LI was able to jam the Stalker perfectly. It now met 3 of the 4 requirements, like the other two diode jammers.
Again, I'm just brainstorming here as to why the single head LPP did good against the Stalker, and probably just restating obvious facts, but I'm bored.
__________________ Beltronics STI
Escort 8500 x50 Red Rev 6.1 2 head PASS + 1 LPP head, PASS box
ZR4 for backup/TruSpeed. -Laser Hits:7, Saves:3 out of 3 (LPP front single)
-Laser Hits:0, Saves:0 out of 0 (New setup)
-Radar Hits: Too many to list, Saves: 7
-"Eye" saves: 2
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