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    Default Inform LEO of CCP or Not?

    Seems there is a lot of debate about this on various gun/CC forums so I'm curious if any of you guys have any experience on the matter.

    So if you have a CCP and live in a state which does not require you to inform the officer, do you still inform them or not? Does your CCP show up when they run your license?

    I'm asking because I recently turned 21 so I bought my first handgun and will be obtaining my CCP.

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    Default Re: Inform LEO of CCP or Not?

    Just the permit?

    No.

    Heck, I wouldn't bring up the firearm unless you have to go near it.

    If your registration is in the same place as your gun, inform the LEO and let him tell you how to proceed.

    Never reach anywhere near a gun without making sure both of you are in agreement that it's OK to do so.

    If you keep your gun in plain view, (not required in my state) keep your hands where he can see them and inform him/her first. No sudden moves.

    If you have a gun in your suitcase in the trunk, I wouldn't bring it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z1NONLY View Post
    Just the permit?

    No.

    Heck, I wouldn't bring up the firearm unless you have to go near it.

    If your registration is in the same place as your gun, inform the LEO and let him tell you how to proceed.

    Never reach anywhere near a gun without making sure both of you are in agreement that it's OK to do so.

    If you keep your gun in plain view, (not required in my state) keep your hands where he can see them and inform him/her first. No sudden moves.

    If you have a gun in your suitcase in the trunk, I wouldn't bring it up.
    X2, great advice. I never mention it if the weapon is in the glove box or console unless the officer asks me to get some information out of one of those compartments. I then tell him very politely there is a weapon there and I have CCP and he'll have to get the info or weapon.
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    Default Re: Inform LEO of CCP or Not?

    If the gun is under a seat or someplace out of (everyone's!) sight and nowhere near anything you'd need to be poking at with the officer there, I wouldn't say a damn thing about it unless asked.

    If it were in the glove box or someplace you'd need to be to get your registration/insurance, I'd show my CCP to the LEO, inform him that there is a firearm in the vehicle, and that it's someplace where I would have to be to get my registration and insurance out. Then I'd wait for the LEO's instructions as to how to proceed and do exactly as he said, in a very slow and deliberate manner. For many LEOs, a traffic stop is the most unpredictable (read: dangerous) moment of their day, and if an unannounced firearm falls out of your glove box while you're fumbling for your registration (regardless of CCP and loaded status), you're liable to end up in cuffs explaining to the sergeant why you shouldn't spend a few nights in the tank--at best.

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    Default Re: Inform LEO of CCP or Not?

    To me it's very simple, do *NOT* put your gun or any other contraband in the same place as your registration/insurance.

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    Default Re: Inform LEO of CCP or Not?

    My weapons are not contraband. I'm legally licensed to conceal and carry a weapon. I only inform them I have a weapon if I feel they may be a potential for a misunderstanding that might get me injured or killed.

    Other than that I keep my mouth shut about it. But the two imes I have been shopped and mentioned it, they forgot about why they originally stopped me and sent me on my way after they found all was in order with my license.
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    I did not mean to imply that weapons ARE contraband, I meant do not put weapons OR contraband in a place where it's going to be brought up during a stop. Just as RDs, laser jammers, CB radio and scanners are legal, I'd rather not talk about them with the kind officer during a traffic stop, therefore I don't have them in plain view or near something that I might have to pass through the window to an enforcement officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky225 View Post
    I did not mean to imply that weapons ARE contraband, I meant do not put weapons OR contraband in a place where it's going to be brought up during a stop. Just as RDs, laser jammers, CB radio and scanners are legal, I'd rather not talk about them with the kind officer during a traffic stop, therefore I don't have them in plain view or near something that I might have to pass through the window to an enforcement officer.
    Got ya, thought you meant if you did not have a permit. I understand you thought process and it has very valid points. I don't typically keep it need important papers the officer might need to see in my vehicle, but when I use someone else's car occasionally I don't have a choice as the glove compartment is the only space available.
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    Default Re: Inform LEO of CCP or Not?

    If the law here were different I'd have my CCW, but it's not so I don't. However here is a thought process I've heard, that does offer some interesting points.

    This particular gentleman, made a point of windows down, hands on the top of the steering wheel. When the officer walked up to the car he would politely inform him he has a CCW and is carrying today, the weapon is (where ever he had it at the moment either on him, in the glove box or console) and asked the officer how he wanted to proceed, and if the officer told him to get out whatever papers he said where they where (wallet, glove box, etc.) and when he got the ok moved very slowly. He kept is paperwork 100% in order and said between the two he'd only ever gotten a warning after a dozen or so traffic stops. He attributed it to showing respect for the officer, and diffusing the situation before it became one, which often times meant the officer was going home safely at the end of his shift, hence the extra leeway with a couple of MPH over the limit.

    Just food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motor On View Post
    If the law here were different I'd have my CCW, but it's not so I don't. However here is a thought process I've heard, that does offer some interesting points.

    This particular gentleman, made a point of windows down, hands on the top of the steering wheel. When the officer walked up to the car he would politely inform him he has a CCW and is carrying today, the weapon is (where ever he had it at the moment either on him, in the glove box or console) and asked the officer how he wanted to proceed, and if the officer told him to get out whatever papers he said where they where (wallet, glove box, etc.) and when he got the ok moved very slowly. He kept is paperwork 100% in order and said between the two he'd only ever gotten a warning after a dozen or so traffic stops. He attributed it to showing respect for the officer, and diffusing the situation before it became one, which often times meant the officer was going home safely at the end of his shift, hence the extra leeway with a couple of MPH over the limit.

    Just food for thought.
    I feel the same way, I believe that once the officers knew I was trying to make sure we were both safe they gave me a little leniency they may not had I handled it differently.
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