1. ## Attention Ohio residents!

Here is what I found in the news today Is this a joke???

Ohio Cops Don't Need Radar Gun to Ticket Drivers - ABC News

2. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

Originally Posted by Hakkinen
Here is what I found in the news today Is this a joke???

Ohio Cops Don't Need Radar Gun to Ticket Drivers - ABC News
No joke, but it is a double re-post.

3. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

When I determine the speed of a vehicle I use the flux in the space time continuem combined with the disturbance in the force coupled with the rip in the universal vortex.....

Then I verify it with my Ultralyte 20/20.

F

4. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

If radar readings can be thrown out in court, I don't see why visual estimates wouldn't be able to be. Well, radar can make mistakes, but so can the LEO doing the visual estimate. And the estimate will never be as precise as the radar reading.

Now, I could see a visual estimate combined with a mechanical measurement (radar, laser, etc). could stand up in court, but by itself, I would toss it if I were a judge.

What's to stop a cop from lying outright about the speed he estimated? There won't be any reading on a speed gun to look at. Of course, he could lie about what the gun said, too, and clear the lock.

Seems like a lot of time wasted in appeals and such over a simple speeding ticket.

I guess the countermeasure is to drive so fast that the LEO doesn't see you at all!

5. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

Originally Posted by Fritter
When I determine the speed of a vehicle I use the flux in the space time continuem combined with the disturbance in the force coupled with the rip in the universal vortex.....

Then I verify it with my Ultralyte 20/20.

F
He's my kinda guy.

MH

6. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

Originally Posted by Fritter
When I determine the speed of a vehicle I use the flux in the space time continuem combined with the disturbance in the force coupled with the rip in the universal vortex.....

Then I verify it with my Ultralyte 20/20.

F
I bet Ohioans wished there were more officers verifying like you.

7. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

Originally Posted by mikedotd
I bet Ohioans wished there were more officers verifying like you.
Actually, the officer involve in that particular case did just that using radar.

"Ted Hart, a spokesman for the Ohio Attorney General's office, which operates the Ohio Peace Officer Training Academy, said it's unusual for officers to rely solely on observation to issue tickets.

"Typically, an officer would observe someone that appears to be speeding and then use radar or laser to confirm it," Hart told the Plain Dealer of Cleveland. "

8. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

His visual estimate was 79? Not 78 or 80 but 79? I think he doesn't understand what the word "estimate" really means.

9. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

A LEO can be certified for Visual Estimate when he can demostrate a consistent reading of +/- 5mph of radar or lidar reading.

10. ## Re: Attention Ohio residents!

Originally Posted by erickonphoenix
His visual estimate was 79? Not 78 or 80 but 79? I think he doesn't understand what the word "estimate" really means.
Originally Posted by KnightHawk
A LEO can be certified for Visual Estimate when he can demonstrate a consistent reading of +/- 5mph of radar or lidar reading.
So that pretty much confirms that visual estimation isn't going to come up with some odd number like "79", doesn't it. If that's the officer's "visual estimate", why 79?

MH

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