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  1. #1
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    Default Newbie here, just bought a Passport 8500 X50....

    Hi all:
    Just registered, cool site! Read some of the posts and there seems to be quite a few who know their stuff about detectors. I just purchased a Passport 8500 X50 after doing some research, and after getting a ticket on the Triborough Bridge back in September. What has been the overal experience with the X50? Strengths? Weaknesses? See, I live in New York City where X-Band saturates the whole damn place. Not many falses so far, but the X50 will go off now and then. But all in all, very livable. However, I do drive in NJ a lot where the State Troopers still use X band so I was wondering which would be better, "Auto" or "Highway" mode when driving there? I've experienced a few "K" and "Ka" alerts within the city but I have not seen a cop, or noticed any traffic redlight cams. What's the deal? Does anything else run on K or Ka in cities which would give me a false alert? Funny thing too, I didn't get these falses today where I usually encounter them. Maybe because it was raining?
    Last, what helpful hints would an experienced user give a dude like me when it comes to "relying" on the detector to *save* my a--?

    Thanks people! Glad to be here.

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    Welcome!

    I've never run with an X50, myself, but here's a pretty good thread to answer your last quesion:

    http://www.radardetector.net/What-ar...ckets-843t.php

    The golden rule is to use the detector as a tool, not a replacement for good driving practices. It should serve you very well.

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    Congrats on the purchase. It's a stellar detector!

    A couple things to keep in mind-

    Highway mode will alert to all threats as soon as they are encountered. If you're in an area with few/no false alerts, this would be the way to go.

    City mode- Simple signal strength threshold on X Band. Not advisable since you'd come upon real X-Band pretty often.

    Auto- Intelligently kicks out a lot of X and K falses. If you're in an area with a lot of X falsing, this would be the way to go. You'll get better warnings to real X-band with auto than city.

    The threat display mode would be great for you, it will track up to 4 X-Band signals at once.

    K Alerts can be false or can be real. Asseme they're real until you know otherwise.

    Ka are almost never false. Always assume these are real.

    Good luck with the X50, if you come up with any other questions, we'll all do our best to help you out.

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    "However, I do drive in NJ a lot where the State Troopers still use X band so I was wondering which would be better, "Auto" or "Highway" mode when driving there?"


    Possible option:
    You can set the X50 City mode to No X band for NY and then switch it to Highway or Auto when you want X band detection in NJ.

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    I have an x50 and Valentine One. Without getting into that little conflict, your x50 will suit you well. Get that bad boy hardwired to your car, mount it high, and just get used to its "environment" - potential "falsing" places you find, its capabilities, and so forth.

    "Expert mode" is a popular option here on the boards, as is spec display. Check out your manual for further info.

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    I also have the x50, and I love the unit. Here is a few tips that I myself have found out to be true...


    If you put the city mode to low or no x then you should be just fine in NY, but keep it on highway for NJ (as stated by steathJamal)

    Personally from my experiences in mounting, the higher you mount, the better your reception however the higher you mount, the worse your laser protection, and pop detection... You get less falsing and the signal meter usual is dead-on or very close to it regarding the distance between you and the radar source. As far as the laser and pop detection, can't do much about that as it is, if you get tagged with laser you're already screwed if you're speeding, same goes for pop. By default pop does come turned off, turning it on is up to you, personally I have mine off just because in california, they have to get a fix on you before they can do that which means most cops (chp) use constant on. However i will enable pop when I am driving on long trips or am going on traffic-less freeways. You'll need to get yourself another defense system against laser to be protected since the x50 only alerts you AFTER you've been tagged unless the cop had to many doughnuts and burped when he tried to tag you and hit your hood first.

    Summary:
    The higher you mount, the less falsing however the less you are protected against pop and laser alerts.
    If you find out that NJ and NY where you travel use laser a lot, get a defense system.

    Play around with the mounting on your car. Not everyone's way of mounting works best for all cars. I have some videos if you want me to show you with the different mounting positions for the x50 and the differences they prodcued regarding range. Just PM me and i'll tell ya where to get them.

    Enjoy your x50 and post more questions if you have them

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    One bit of advice I have for anyone considering a hardwire - use it for at least a month before you hardwire. This serves two purposes-

    Makes sure you're going to keep that detector.

    Makes sure you're going to be happy with the location you've chosen before you get wiring all in place.

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    I'm in north jersey and these are the settings I use. I drive I-80 every day.

    My settings from start to finish, you'll find details on page 13 of the manual:

    Pilot H.>
    PwrOn STD
    Meter EXP
    aMute ON
    Tone STD (Unless you ride with the radio/cd loud, then use Tone LOUD)
    City STD
    Brt LAST
    DARK STD
    Bands MOD
    - X ON, K ON, Ka ON, POP ON, LSR ON

    On federal/state highways I use "Highway" Mode.
    In towns/cities I use "Auto" Mode.
    I've used "City" for a few days when I first got it, and I found I liked "Auto" alot better. If you read the manual, you will notice that escort even mentions "We reccomend the Auto (AutoSensitivity) mode for most driving." and its for a good reason... it works well.

    Use the right mode for the right job. I get a POP false once every other day or less... not annoying enough for me to turn it off yet... I'm anxious for Escort to release a software upgrade though.

    Finally mounting is always the issue. I can positively say this:
    Left-to-right: You want to be as dead center as possible with a straight-ahead view of the road, above any foward obstruction like windshield wipers.
    Level: You want the detector to remain perfectly level to the ground, not pointed towards the sky or ground.
    High-and-low:
    (Radar)With no traffic, radar is unaffected whether it is high or low. With traffic, it seems that high mounting is better because you have less obstruction from the car in front of you.
    (Laser) You're probably screwed either way because of the accuracy of laser. You'll want to mount low and prey you catch some stray photons, but you will definately want to invest in a Laser Shield and some Veil (both sold by roy @ radarbusters.com, the awesome owner of this site)

    I reccomend mounting low if you care about laser, high if you have a jammer/shifter, and high if you care more about radar detection than laser detection. Most people tend to mount low.

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    Just to add a side-note, if you have a system in your car (subs) then you'll want to mount the detector usually in the middle of the windshield in the center, or to the lower left hand corner in order to stop vibrations. Both ways as long as they are level are still able to pick up a decent amount of warning time around here,,, make sure you test these areas out before attempting to go past PNR.

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    Hre is an AWESOME review done by The Veil guy (owner of the best jammer product in the world the Laser Veil)

    http://www.laserveil.com/en/ultimate.../introduction/



    You will see that the X50 has a weakness with Xband compared tot he RX65 and V1. I persoally love my X50 due to it awesome range and Expert mode. I also love my V1. All in all you cant go wrong with all three detectors. The V1 is the best for highway driving and the X50 and RX65 are the best for city driving.
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