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    ^

    I wonder how the 30% sensitivity reduction compares to the performance of our early-make Rev5 x50s? I've always been under the impression that the early-make Rev5 x50s did not have stellar laser reception to begin with - so I wonder if this will be a net further-decrease, reduce it to being equivalent, or will it still be an improvement, however slight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSi+WRX
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    I wonder how the 30% sensitivity reduction compares to the performance of our early-make Rev5 x50s? I've always been under the impression that the early-make Rev5 x50s did not have stellar laser reception to begin with - so I wonder if this will be a net further-decrease, reduce it to being equivalent, or will it still be an improvement, however slight?
    I asked him just that. He couldn't give me a clear answer to how the shielded 9500i would compare to my 3 y.o. 8500 X50 Rev. 5 that had no issues.

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    ^

    I guess we'll expect the worst, but pray for the best.

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    Radar detection is the most important issue here. As anyone who spends a good deal of time on this website knows, getting a laser save is pretty rare. 30% less detection of laser might be a good thing, with all those laser cruise controls out there. I don't know how the 9500i sensitivity compares to my SRX, but every hit I have gotten is either me being targetted by a LEO, or some Infinity or other luxury car with laser cruise control. I don't think I have ever had a laser hit that was someone else getting hit by a LEO laser around me on the road. So, if the RD part of the 9500i is better than your X50, the laser detection is pretty inconsequential, IMO.

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    ^ That's a fair way of looking at this.

    But the other way of looking at this is that this is Escort's top-flight detector. At $400+, competing with other top-dogs, why is it that this detector (along with the x50), is among the most prone to such issues?

    Like I said, to me, the detection "up high" would be nice, but in light of my other defensive layers, it's rather inconsequential. [ Although, to be complete, again, I *have* been advance-warned of LIDAR traps, catching lucky scatter off preceeding traffic, with a high-mounted x50 setup - as such, I'd like - if at all possible - to have the laser detection capabilities of the 9500i intact, particularly if it is true-to-form "better" than that of my Rev5 x50's capabilities in that respect. ]

    Yet, I do not feel that Escort should be excused from this problem.

    Yes, this concern may be valid only on certain make/models of vehicles, but it also seems to be a problem that plagues the x50/9500i more than the other top-flight detectors which it competes with. At this price-range and with the specific goal of satisfying enthusiasts, Escort should not have any excuses here but to offer the combination of par-level performance along with at least *average* incidence of RF/noise-induced laser-alert falsing as other top-flights.

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    shipped off the 9500i this morning. I'll keep you posted when I get it back from Escort.

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    I should be getting (i.e. physically getting it in the mail) the 9500i some time soon. I'll keep you posted as well.

    Best of luck! I'll definitely keep my fingers crossed for you!

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    I've been dealing with the same issue myself. My detector worked fine initially, but within the last year, it has been getting laser falses more and more frequently, until now, it is essentially useless.

    At first, I only got the false alerts under heavy acceleration. Now, I get them even with the cruise control running on the freeway at constant speed (more or less randomly). And While under heavy acceleration, almost 100% of the time.

    As a test, I hid the detector under a jacket (in the dark), and it still falses (so at least for my detector, I am confidant that it is not actually responding to some light source).

    One thread I saw said something about cleaning the contacts near the RJ-11 connector on the side of the detector, so I took mine apart and cleaned them up, and for good measure, re-heated the solder up (just until it became liquid). So far, I haven't seen any falses yet, but I noticed earlier that if the detector sits for a while, it will work for a few days with no false alarms, then it will start up again - so we'll see if that had anything to do with this problem.

    As I read this thread, the consensus seems to be moving towards that this is likely either electrical noise, or leaking RF. This sounds right to me - either one ought to be easy enough to confirm. To rule out electrical noise, I'm thinking about wiring up a couple of cheap lantern batteries, and running the detector from those, and seeing if the problem goes away. If it happens under battery power, then it is absolutely certainly RF leakage from the vehicle.

    For RF, has anybody thought about setting up a partial faraday cagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_cage?

    RF might be a tough nut to crack, because cars have lots of potential sources of RF, and I imagine that the components in the detectors may become more sensitive to the RF of the vehicle over time. Another thing that might affect RF would be how close the detector is to the source. Anybody with the falsing problem try moving the detector up higher on the window? A foot or more further away from the source (presumably the vehicle ignition) should at least reduce the problem. Maybe even putting some grounded piece of metal between the detector and the car - personally, I'm thinking about making sort of a tinfoil hat :? for mine, just to see if it makes any difference (probably line the inside of the case with tinfoil - with a hole for radar and laser, then some kind of insulator, so it doesn't short on anything).

    RF makes sense based on what the Escort techs are saying will happen to the detector after they "adjust it" - they're probably just going in and turning down the sensitivity of the laser part of the detector so its less likely to "see" vehicle RF. What seems wrong to me is that they're charging between $60.00 and $100.00 (depending on who you talk to) to do this. This is clearly an inherent fault in the design of the detector - they should be recalling these and fixing them on their dime.

    I used to be a big fan of Escort - but not after this. Does anybody know if Valentine or Bel would take care of an issue like this? If so, I would buy a new detector just to spite Escort

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmonroe
    Does anybody know if Valentine or Bel would take care of an issue like this? If so, I would buy a new detector just to spite Escort
    To the best of my knowledge, older V1's would sometimges have these problems in certain vehicles or around airports etc, but newer ones do not. It used to be that Valentine would do a free "airport mod" if you requested it, where they would fill in some gaps with conductive epoxy and bake the unit in the oven. This supposably did away with falsing from strong RF sources (such as near airports). Since that time, I believe they have updated their design so that the airport mod is no longer necessary.

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    lol, airport mod. Maybe they will make a train station and shopping center mode.

 

 

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