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  1. #1
    Yoda of Radar
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    Default What the he!! does (SELF CAL) mean on the X50?

    I usualy run the X50 with X - off - K - ON - KA - ON - POP- OFF. Well I have a crappy buy out of one of those gimmic catalogs (Quick Silver) Radar Gun. It operates on the X Band. So tonight I wanted to test out my X50 with the cheap radar gun. What I did was disable , K,KA,POP modes. and only enable X Band this time. When I had did that my X50 all of a sudden read SELF CAL on the Blue LED, it stayed there for 30 seconds or so. Does anyone know what the HE!! this is about?

    When Disabling X and Enabling K, KA, again it just said complete like usual. :?:

    Question is: What the he!! is Self Cal? :?:

  2. #2
    Old Timer
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    Well, long story short....

    Your detector is about to read "Service Required"

  3. #3
    Speed Demon
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    Self Cal means that your RD is running a self calibration test, and like Sethy said, if this Self Calibration test fails it will display Service Required and youll need to send it to Escort.

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    Yoda of Radar
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    I'M sorry about the post, I actualy ended up reading on another part of the forum that there have been many with this problem. I did also read one post where they had Self Cal come up and everything was fine. They never had a Service Needed Messege. I did some google searches also and Self Cal is listed in the X50 Manual as being normal. Also letters from Escort have said that X50 does some tweeking on its own to correct false signals when changing the bands to X. This could be what the issue is. I had never ran just X band only so this could have been the issue. Ill keep you all posted.

    In the event I do get a service needed. Escort will not get my money for repair because I'll send 1/8th of the repair money on a purchase towards a new V1.

  5. #5
    Speed Demon
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    Self Cal for me meant I was half way to service required and $60.00 for repairs because I was 2 months out of warranty. I have been reading a lot about Bel and Escort repair issues lately. :? :?

  6. #6
    Lead Foot
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    I suspect "SELF CAL" may be cleaning up of soft errors and that "SERVICE REQUIRED" is a hard error that once set in some register remains set and requires service for reset. This may be a big deal if the underlying cause is no longer present. A sure-fire way to trigger a "SELF CAL" seems to be powering in the presence of an X-Band source. You're also likely to get one on the next power up if the source is absent.

    This is bad if you work at a supermaket or a site with motion detectors.

    According to Escort:
    "The Passport 8500 and 8500 X50 runs the self-calibration frequently. Most of the time, it will not show up on the display. When you see the display read "self cal", it is auto-correcting the range of frequencies the detector is tuned to receive. If it fails to correct itself the display will read "service required" to let you know it did not complete the self-calibration. If it does not show the "service required" message, it sounds like your Passport 8500 is good to go. "

    Has the 8500 had problems as well?

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    Speed Demon
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    ive had my X50 for a year or so and have never seen a "self cal" msg.

  8. #8
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    You wont see it all the time. The self recal is supposed to do it by itself. Sometimes you will see it sometimes not.

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    Default I don't know if its correlated

    I have a Bel 995 for about 4 mos. Just returned under extended warrenty. It started the self cal3 and then self cal7 error messages.

    Self cal 3 started after I passed under a traffic light equipped with white spot light at the top (the kind that turn on just before the light changes for emergency vehicles). The light flashed on and the traffic control changed to red before an emergeny vehicle passed through when the light flashed (received a signal - I think) the detector read self cal3.

    Self cal 7 started after self cal 3 began. It started on day when I was hit by a instant on. A police car was approaching from the opposite direction and no contant reading. The at about 30 ft, I got a quick K band burst.

    Based on the above, my theory is that somehow the quick signals mess with the software: the RD gets a partial frequency read and this impairs its calibration. I have a 985 in my other car and (pre POP) and I don't have these problems. It seems that only the faster scanning RD have this problem.

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    When my dad was using my X50 it gave him a self cal after being turned on. I got my unit about 8 months ago. But expecting to possibly get another Self Cal message or a Service Required message I didn't. I even sent it with my brother on his trip to Pensylvannia and after about 30 hours of use probably there and back it never gave another self cal message so it must have just been a correction it needed and automatically fixed it.

 

 

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