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    Default 9500ix TrueLock Scenario Question

    I had an encounter today that has me questioning TrueLock's methods and operation. Allow me to present a, for the moment, hypothetical scenario: ix user is receiving full alert to moving C/O approaching from the opposite direction @ 24.165. Is it within the realm of possibility that, in the midst of said full alert, ix user could move into the lockout radius of a known <2/3 strength false @ 24.170, thus abruptly terminating the alert and activating spinning GPS icon indicating lockout? In reading Escort's "Tech Talk" portion on the 9500i and the 9500i sticky here, I've become more confused. It seems logical that either signal strength or number of signals would prevent the aforementioned scenario from occuring, but I can't confirm that with either source. Is the situation I describe possible?

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    Default Re: 9500ix TrueLock Scenario Question

    Yes. When the second source is within the lockout radius with the frequency you describe, it is highly possible.

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    Default Re: 9500ix TrueLock Scenario Question

    I would agree with Azone - it's definitely possible.

    In the few situations where I've noted TrueLock to have locked out a *known* present enforcement signal, signal-strength nor the presence of an extra transmitter mattered - all that the processor saw was that the signal overlapped into the chunked block ("segment") that I initiated the TrueLock.

    To-qualify, though, none of these were a roving/moving enforcement scenario - C/O or I/O.

    All were stationary.

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    Default Re: 9500ix TrueLock Scenario Question

    I think this is the exact situation that upset RadarKid about Truelock. If I understand his scenario(s) correctly, he received the beginning of an alert, then entered a lockout radius and the alert terminated and was replaced by a spinning satellite. Also, based on how Truelock works within its three inputs(frequency, location and signal strength), this seems certainly possible.

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    Default Re: 9500ix TrueLock Scenario Question

    Thanks guys, I was trying to convince myself that the LEO killed the radar, but I've never seen my detector just completely drop an alert at speed like that before, it usually "lingers" a bit after the signal is, in my opinion, out of range. I guess this illustrates the importance of realizing the risk associated with locking out falses in a band that you know to be used in the area. I'm sure glad this wasn't I/O when I was within the radius...

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    Default Re: 9500ix TrueLock Scenario Question

    Quote Originally Posted by John From Cincinnati View Post
    Thanks guys, I was trying to convince myself that the LEO killed the radar, but I've never seen my detector just completely drop an alert at speed like that before, it usually "lingers" a bit after the signal is, in my opinion, out of range. I guess this illustrates the importance of realizing the risk associated with locking out falses in a band that you know to be used in the area. I'm sure glad this wasn't I/O when I was within the radius...
    If you are within the lockout radius and it's I/O, you are probably the target.

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    Default Re: 9500ix TrueLock Scenario Question

    Quote Originally Posted by TSi+WRX View Post
    I would agree with Azone - it's definitely possible.

    In the few situations where I've noted TrueLock to have locked out a *known* present enforcement signal, signal-strength nor the presence of an extra transmitter mattered - all that the processor saw was that the signal overlapped into the chunked block ("segment") that I initiated the TrueLock.

    To-qualify, though, none of these were a roving/moving enforcement scenario - C/O or I/O.

    All were stationary.
    Quote Originally Posted by djrams80 View Post
    I think this is the exact situation that upset RadarKid about Truelock. If I understand his scenario(s) correctly, he received the beginning of an alert, then entered a lockout radius and the alert terminated and was replaced by a spinning satellite. Also, based on how Truelock works within its three inputs(frequency, location and signal strength), this seems certainly possible.

    x2. The key to TrueLock on the I & ix is to do everything possible to decrease the chances of locking out a real LEO, or give some type of warning before the encounter.

    1-multiple 30MHz blocks.
    2-1/10 to 1/2mi lock out radius.
    3-A LEO's radar will travel much farther than your lock out area so some alert will be herd before the encounter(sounds like your scenario)
    4-LEO's tend to use KA more than K & X.
    5-Most falses are in areas where you cant really speed anyway.

 

 

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