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Old 12-24-2008, 04:13 PM   #41 (permalink)
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YCTD, I'm not sure what you're talking about being installed incorrectly. The laser jammers are temporary until I can jack up the car and adjust things with the LI in place. As for the radar head, I don't simply believe everything I read on the internet. I'll do my own testing, if there's a difference I'll remove the grill, but the radar head will be mounted there regardless. Based on the SRX, it performed better behind the grill higher than it did having an open view lower.

I think you will still get decent performance behind the grill, just not perfect performance. I am willing to bet with the Ci, even behind the grill will still perform very well. I am wondering just one thing, is 35.5 is tricky to pick up (narrower beam?) and maybe without a full view of the road, the ci will have limitations?
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I think you will still get decent performance behind the grill, just not perfect performance. I am willing to bet with the Ci, even behind the grill will still perform very well. I am wondering just one thing, is 35.5 is tricky to pick up (narrower beam?) and maybe without a full view of the road, the ci will have limitations?
I say not. When I first mounted my 9500ci radar antenna behind the grill, X and K band were excellent, 34.7 was spotty, sometimes excellent, sometimes not so good, but 35.5 detection was horrific! And, you could see right through my grill.

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YCTD, I'm not sure what you're talking about being installed incorrectly. The laser jammers are temporary until I can jack up the car and adjust things with the LI in place. As for the radar head, I don't simply believe everything I read on the internet. I'll do my own testing, if there's a difference I'll remove the grill, but the radar head will be mounted there regardless. Based on the SRX, it performed better behind the grill higher than it did having an open view lower.
LJ, are fine

I was talking about the radar head and I think thats great to do your own testing, I didn't mean to offend you but was complementing the fact that if you wanted you could make it great. Sorry do what you have to do
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:52 PM   #44 (permalink)
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LJ, are fine

I was talking about the radar head and I think thats great to do your own testing, I didn't mean to offend you but was complementing the fact that if you wanted you could make it great. Sorry do what you have to do
X2, I'm just going off of DJ's observations behind his own grill, DJ is just one of those people that seemed to do everything wrong and learned the hardway (i.e. ZR3 only on the back plate) His experience is worth mentioning.
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:44 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I say not. When I first mounted my 9500ci radar antenna behind the grill, X and K band were excellent, 34.7 was spotty, sometimes excellent, sometimes not so good, but 35.5 detection was horrific! And, you could see right through my grill.


That makes me think that not only the antenna is almost like jammer head where it needs not only full view of the road, but almost no side blockage or tunnel vision like the sides of the grill or behind a grill will cause.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:10 AM   #46 (permalink)
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I think that the issue of the remote RADAR antenna's "blockage" requires a bit more dissection - that it's not quite as easy to judge, based on a simple picture or our current knowledge.

ATTN: 9500CI Owners. You NEED to read this thread.

I really think that there's multifactorial concerns (look at metalflame's and MEM-TEK's respective analyses).

Since REB's got a V1, too, I think that it will work out well, in his case, for him to simply carefully monitor the usual band chatter on his two devices - and if the ci's performance is noted to be not up-to-par or intermittent, to THEN address the issue.
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Old 12-25-2008, 10:42 AM   #47 (permalink)
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X2, I'm just going off of DJ's observations behind his own grill, DJ is just one of those people that seemed to do everything wrong and learned the hardway (i.e. ZR3 only on the back plate) His experience is worth mentioning.
Um, thanks, I think.
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Old 12-25-2008, 11:02 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Um, thanks, I think.

I'm just saying you have a lot of experience from the past, others should take it for what it is and head warning instead of finding out the way you did. We're all here to help each other out on our journeys and I think we share a common goal of being able to drive at a reasonably and prudent speed without fear of police interference. After all that's what the radar detectors are telling us, someone is putting you or surrounding traffic under surveillance. We use this information to adjust our driving behavior appropriately, remember we can't always see when we under surveillance, that's why the detector is there, and if it misses a stealthy 35.5 KA signal b/c of a cosmetic preference, I think that's a shame.
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:36 PM   #49 (permalink)
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*** I posted this a long time ago,but I'll post it again.Thank you TSi+WRX for providing the link.For remote RD installation,this info is basically a common knowledge/consensus on European RD Forums ***

Remote RDs are very popular in Europe and people have find out that remote receiver can be mounted behind plastic bumper or grille,without losing detection...BUT,plastic must be flat,not curved and grille must be as thin as possible (like EVO's),not thick like in thestaton's case(Chevrolet Impala).

Avoid mounting behind:
*a bumper that's made from/with carbon fibers,Poly-Carbonate
*things made with graphite,teflon,lead
*metallic paint or old paints with lead
*any metal objects
*thick grilles

Some of the newer BMW models,AUDI's and VW's have have very "bad" bumpers,that don't pass Radar signals well.VAG cars have bumpers from PPP-EPDM which attenuate radar signals.

Bumpers made with/from PP,ABS+PET, ABS, ASA, EVA, PS will pass Radar signals.
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*** I posted this a long time ago,but I'll post it again.Thank you TSi+WRX for providing the link.For remote RD installation,this info is basically a common knowledge/consensus on European RD Forums ***

Remote RDs are very popular in Europe and people have find out that remote receiver can be mounted behind plastic bumper or grille,without losing detection...BUT,plastic must be flat,not curved and grille must be as thin as possible (like EVO's),not thick like in thestaton's case(Chevrolet Impala).

Avoid mounting behind:
*a bumper that's made from/with carbon fibers,Poly-Carbonate
*things made with graphite,teflon,lead
*metallic paint or old paints with lead
*any metal objects
*thick grilles

Some of the newer BMW models,AUDI's and VW's have have very "bad" bumpers,that don't pass Radar signals well.VAG cars have bumpers from PPP-EPDM which attenuate radar signals.

Bumpers made with/from PP,ABS+PET, ABS, ASA, EVA, PS will pass Radar signals.
I was wondering why you think my detection was so awful behind this plastic grill that you could see right through.

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