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    Default 8500x50 question

    I have only been lasered 2 times BUT both times were like PULSE lasers. But there were cars in front of me and it didn't go off on them 1st. Does this 8500x50 do no good with laser or by chance he shot me both times but knowone else?

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    Default Re: 8500x50 question

    If I understand what you're saying correctly, the reason is that laser, unlike radar, is very narrow-beam. There's often little or no scatter. So, the car in front of you might be painted and you'd never know, depending on the vehicle and other conditions. So it's very possible that the X50 was doing its job as well as anything else would. Having said that, the V1 does seem to be the king of the road for pure sensitivity. How much of an advantage that is depends on your needs and uses.
    Last edited by JNewell; 03-27-2009 at 07:08 AM.

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    Default Re: 8500x50 question

    The X50 has constantly in past tests come second (only to the V1) in laser detection... with that said, there have been many cases where X50 have failed to alert to police lidar.


    The V1 (for dashmounts) is the best laser detector there is... case closed, but it isn't good enough all the time... there have been a few isolated cases where it (very likely)failed to alert users to a real threat... on that same token many users have gotten 'scatter' alerts via the V1, where it detected cars ahead of the user being hit with laser.


    The take away message: The only true defense against laser is a jammer, ANY RD is just a ticket notifier at best.

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    Default Re: 8500x50 question

    i've had some false laser readings from my x50 lately. could that be the problem?

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    Default Re: 8500x50 question

    I get LASER alerts a lot approaching toll booths. Don't know if it is the blinking red lights or if it is mounted laser guns taking everyones speed.

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    Default Re: 8500x50 question

    Quote Originally Posted by jijacob View Post
    I get LASER alerts a lot approaching toll booths. Don't know if it is the blinking red lights or if it is mounted laser guns taking everyones speed.

    most likely they use laser distance sensors to detect if a car is in the booth.

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    At the Atlanta Jammerfest a few months ago, I had DJ's V1 mounted high next to my RVM. Many times it stopped alerting to laser once my car got within 800 feet or so of the laser gun. It seemed to depend on the laser gun model which was being used. A couple of other testers had their V1's mounted high, and they noticed the same thing. Basically, at close ranges, a laser gun's beam is just too narrow to be detected unless the laser gun is aimed high enough so that its laser beam can scatter off of the top front of your car's hood.

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    Default Re: 8500x50 question

    Quote Originally Posted by MEM-TEK View Post
    At the Atlanta Jammerfest a few months ago, I had DJ's V1 mounted high next to my RVM. Many times it stopped alerting to laser once my car got within 800 feet or so of the laser gun. It seemed to depend on the laser gun model which was being used. A couple of other testers had their V1's mounted high, and they noticed the same thing. Basically, at close ranges, a laser gun's beam is just too narrow to be detected unless the laser gun is aimed high enough so that its laser beam can scatter off of the top front of your car's hood.

    Well, it is not surprising considering mount high is trading off alerting on direct hits vs alerting to scattered targeting.

    If you want to get direct hit notification (i.e. VEIL user) mount low, and if you want to get neither really well, mount middle

 

 

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