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    Default Why do most people have POP turned off?

    Why do most people have POP turned off? Seems like POP on would increase sensitivity. Any reason to turn it off on a 9500ix given that it locks out false sources to begin with?

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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    1. POP is rarely used, and isn't supposed to be used for issuing citations.
    2. (related to #1) not many departments have POP capable guns.
    3. POP detection is spotty at best.
    4. Having POP on causes lots of Cobra-related falses. You aren't going to be able to lock those out on a GPS-enabled RD.

    POP on doesn't increase the RD's sensitivity. It just tells the RD to alert to brief (67ms) pulses of K or Ka band.
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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    false Ka = bad and x2 on above

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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    Are these "most" people V1 owners? (The V1 is considered "chatty" as it is.) It's a setting that inflates the ratio of falses : police. I'm not convinced it picks up any more police...if you catch me drift.

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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    Unless you live in Nevada, of course...


    Does POP affect the V1s ability at all to pick up generic quick-trigger (which is very much a real threat), or is that entirely seperate?

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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    Didn't the 2007 GOL RD test actually show that disabling known non-threats tends to increase RD sensitivity (range)?

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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    I've been confused about this topic as well. I thought turning POP on increases an RD's range because it'll try to "sniff" out further for those short POP pulses?

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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    Here is Mike B. quick triggering on a V1:
    http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...e-3-826-a.html

    You can see he sends out pulses of <100ms, 100ms, 200ms, etc. with POP on and POP off. You can be the judge to see if POP on picks up any more quick triggers (the rather long pulses) than with it off.
    Last edited by FoolishOne; 07-21-2009 at 10:44 AM.

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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinoyem1 View Post
    I've been confused about this topic as well. I thought turning POP on increases an RD's range because it'll try to "sniff" out further for those short POP pulses?
    Does it sniff or just report? On the V1 (and probably all the others), it is ALWAYS at max sensitivity. It gets in its horn what it gets. I believe POP on only tells the end user something remarkably short entered its horn. POP off just simply doesn't report under whatever the threshold is.

    From my understanding, POP on/off doesn't make it sniff any harder...only changes the reporting.
    Last edited by FoolishOne; 07-21-2009 at 09:20 AM.

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    Default Re: Why do most people have POP turned off?

    One has a better chance of winning the lottery and getting struck by lightning than getting nailed with POP aka POOP

 

 

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