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  1. #1
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    Default Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    Alright forgive me if this has been answered before or if I am just incredibly confused. Let's see if I can word this properly....I may have confused myself.

    Let's say I run my 9500ix in A mode. Part of my daily drive includes a main road through the middle of town with quite a few K band falses. The PSL is 35MPH, however traffic varies from day to day. Some days I am able to drive 40-50MPH, while others I am only able to drive 35-40MPH. Let's say I am driving 35MPH one day and at point X I get an alert for a particular K band false. On the next day I am driving 45MPH, and due to the increased speed in A mode my K band sensitivity is now greater, so my alert comes at point Y. If Truelock depends on getting alerts within the same frequency block at point X at least 3 times to lock it out, is it possible it would never lock it out until I was going one particular speed on at least 3 passes? After it's locked out, if on the next day I'm driving at a faster speed in A mode, wouldn't the detector now alert to the false?

    What I'm getting at is this. Recently I moved my mount to a higher location, thus I'm getting alerts further out. I noticed I'm also now getting alerts at locations I had locked out. Wouldn't it be best to just remain as consistent as possible, i.e. leave it on the same mounting position on Highway mode ALL the time? This way I'll get the same false alerts at the same locations every time, causing Truelock to be the most effective.

    Again if I'm confused, forgive me. I had a long day, it's late, I'm tired, and I've had a few.

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    What I did that once you know that the signal is false and you block that out and if there is another signal that is from the same place it will still alert you of the differ signal. What I would do is to make sure that they are other signal and lock those out and if the popo is near it will still alert you of the differ signal. The ix knows the band and lock that out, thats what I been doing with mines.

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    I'm not as much concerned with being alerted to LEOs in a locked out area as I am about the mechanics of Truelock.

    Because the LEOs in my area primarily use K band I basically can't speed in locked out areas anyways.

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    I think you should keep it simple and unlock everthing. Keep the 9500ix mounted high and let it re-lock everything over time.

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    I knew you were smart snoop.

    I actually just unlocked everything today when I did my weekly update. I do plan on running it exclusively in H mode. I just found myself thinking about this issue and figured I'd tap into the wealth of knowledge here for some answers.

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    Totally agree with you that is why I join up.

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    Crap........I didn't know changing the height would cause variance in the workings of the detector. So if I run it in the 4x4 truck a few weeks then transfer it to the wife's low slung Accord I'm hosed?

    Glad I didn't pull the trigger yet on that 9500i and switch it over to a ix.

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    Great question actually.

    Just because Auto mode's speed sensitivity changes how the detector alerts depending on your speed doesn't mean that it changes how the detector sees the signal, just how it reports it. The antenna is still seeing the signals the same regardless of the mode it is in, the detector just changes how it alerts to them, in this case based on your speed. (A correllary to this is seeing the "stored" message when you don't hear an alert. The detector saw a signal, it just decided to store it before alerting to it.)

    Your mounting location will change the detection behavior. Higher is better for longer range radar detection. The 9500ix is far superior to the 9500i at adapting the stored TrueLock locations when changing the mounting location. This is due to the 9500ix's AutoLearn feature. This feature alone is worth the 9500i upgrade fee in my opinion.

    AutoLearn will automatically unlearn and relearn signal locations while the 9500i has to have it's locations manually stored and unstored. So for example, if you changed the mounting location so that the detector will detect slightly better and you already have your local false alerts stored, the 9500ix will learn the difference of the signal at each location and change these stored locations after several passes by them. The 9500i on the other hand will have to have the locations manually unlocked, then locked again.

    Periodically deleting the database of the 9500ix is at your discretion but from my long term testing with my pre-production era 9500ix (one of the first i to ix conversions actually, I prefer red) I haven't found any problems with too much data in it. My TrueLock database has never been erased and I regularly back it up using Detector Tools. This is valuable data to me, I would hate to lose it. It will still occasionally adapt to falses due to changes in the signal, whether they be in strength or frequency, and seems to learn the changes quicker. This makes sense because it has more data to work with.

    Note that unlearning cannot be deactivated in the 9500ix, even with AutoLearn disabled. This is a "failsafe" feature which the 9500i does not have.

    On a related note, false alert sources that are subjected to the weather typically drift with the outside temperature. This seasonal drifting of false alerts is also handled automatically on the 9500ix with AutoLearn on. With a 9500i you will have to manually lock the new frequency, but how do you unlock the old one stored false if you can't get an alert to that frequency there? Again, AutoLearn is an excellent feature

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    Quote Originally Posted by Unkind View Post
    Alright forgive me if this has been answered before or if I am just incredibly confused. Let's see if I can word this properly....I may have confused myself.

    Let's say I run my 9500ix in A mode. Part of my daily drive includes a main road through the middle of town with quite a few K band falses. The PSL is 35MPH, however traffic varies from day to day. Some days I am able to drive 40-50MPH, while others I am only able to drive 35-40MPH. Let's say I am driving 35MPH one day and at point X I get an alert for a particular K band false. On the next day I am driving 45MPH, and due to the increased speed in A mode my K band sensitivity is now greater, so my alert comes at point Y. If Truelock depends on getting alerts within the same frequency block at point X at least 3 times to lock it out, is it possible it would never lock it out until I was going one particular speed on at least 3 passes? After it's locked out, if on the next day I'm driving at a faster speed in A mode, wouldn't the detector now alert to the false?

    What I'm getting at is this. Recently I moved my mount to a higher location, thus I'm getting alerts further out. I noticed I'm also now getting alerts at locations I had locked out. Wouldn't it be best to just remain as consistent as possible, i.e. leave it on the same mounting position on Highway mode ALL the time? This way I'll get the same false alerts at the same locations every time, causing Truelock to be the most effective.

    Again if I'm confused, forgive me. I had a long day, it's late, I'm tired, and I've had a few.
    I wouldn't worry about it, speed is only a factor when unlocking. Weather it sees a signal in Auto or Highway it will still lock out the same.
    The 9500 sires uses a 1/2mi lock out radius form the approximately the center of the false, big or small.

    And thanks for the detailed explanation EscortRadar, well explained.

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    Default Re: Truelock Question (Yep Another One)

    Very well explained. Thank you very much!

 

 

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