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    Default How ironic that Escort's are assembled in Canada.

    While reseting my old 8500 to get the rev number for a test that i did recently i found that the detector was assembled in Canada. Yes i know that in some parts of Canada that detectors are legal but i just find it ironic that they are assembled there and not in the US. If they have changed where they have assembled them recently i'm sorry.

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    Default Re: How ironic that Escort's are assembled in Canada.

    Quote Originally Posted by mauiman84
    While reseting my old 8500 to get the rev number for a test that i did recently i found that the detector was assembled in Canada. Yes i know that in some parts of Canada that detectors are legal but i just find it ironic that they are assembled there and not in the US. If they have changed where they have assembled them recently i'm sorry.
    Yeah.... they have been manufacturing them there for a while.

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    Ironic - you have no idea. Beltronics is in a suburb of Toronto. Detectors are banned in Ontario. Fines are getting $1,000 high.

    I'm the guy who's fighting Ontario's detector ban in court with a constitutional challenge. We lost in basement traffic court in front of a bored Justice of teh Peace - Nopw we're on 1st appeal. I'm meeting my member of provincial legislature tomorrow (I'm trying for a 2 pronged approach - legal and legislative).
    The situation is bizarre. Detectors can't be in a motor vehicle, whether in the trunk, whether working, whether switched on or off - and that includes busses, taxis, couriers vans etc. Except in a vehicle owned by a manufacturer on route outside of Ontario. So while they are perfectly legal here, you can walk down the street with one attached to a 12 volt, you can't get it to your home in a motor vehicle. Or you could walk it 90 miles from the New York border. So we can build them here. Beltronics and its employees pay $millions in income and business tax but we can't use them. Albertans, Saskatchewans, British Columbians, and residents of the Northern Territories can also use them. Does that mean they are more 'equal' than us??

    The Canadian Charter of rights says all Canadians are equal. But also that provinces can put restrictions on our rights - if it's for the general good.

    Hey - why don't we manufacture kids' stuffed animal toys stuffed with shards of glass - as long as we don't sell them here - who cares??

    There are more serious infractions of The Charter that we are using in our battle. I'll keep everyone posted on the SPECTRE, VG2 part of this board.

    By the way, I have spoken with the Pres. of Beltronics Canada. Although he is obviously very interested in what I'm doing, they can't or won't help with my legal bills.

    Best regards,

    Sonny Stone

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    Default Re: How ironic that Escort's are assembled in Canada.

    Quote Originally Posted by mauiman84
    While reseting my old 8500 to get the rev number for a test that i did recently i found that the detector was assembled in Canada. Yes i know that in some parts of Canada that detectors are legal but i just find it ironic that they are assembled there and not in the US. If they have changed where they have assembled them recently i'm sorry.
    The factory is in Mississauga Ontario, where RD's have been banned since the 70's. However, Beltronics was building RD's in Ontario before the ban, so I guess they are "grandfathered" into it...

    Not allowed to use them though :shock:

    Hey - why don't we manufacture kids' stuffed animal toys stuffed with shards of glass - as long as we don't sell them here - who cares??
    Sonny I love this! You're sounding like a lawyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny S
    Ironic - you have no idea. Beltronics is in a suburb of Toronto. Detectors are banned in Ontario. Fines are getting $1,000 high.

    I'm the guy who's fighting Ontario's detector ban in court with a constitutional challenge. We lost in basement traffic court in front of a bored Justice of teh Peace - Nopw we're on 1st appeal. I'm meeting my member of provincial legislature tomorrow (I'm trying for a 2 pronged approach - legal and legislative).
    The situation is bizarre. Detectors can't be in a motor vehicle, whether in the trunk, whether working, whether switched on or off - and that includes busses, taxis, couriers vans etc. Except in a vehicle owned by a manufacturer on route outside of Ontario. So while they are perfectly legal here, you can walk down the street with one attached to a 12 volt, you can't get it to your home in a motor vehicle. Or you could walk it 90 miles from the New York border. So we can build them here. Beltronics and its employees pay $millions in income and business tax but we can't use them. Albertans, Saskatchewans, British Columbians, and residents of the Northern Territories can also use them. Does that mean they are more 'equal' than us??

    The Canadian Charter of rights says all Canadians are equal. But also that provinces can put restrictions on our rights - if it's for the general good.

    Hey - why don't we manufacture kids' stuffed animal toys stuffed with shards of glass - as long as we don't sell them here - who cares??

    There are more serious infractions of The Charter that we are using in our battle. I'll keep everyone posted on the SPECTRE, VG2 part of this board.

    By the way, I have spoken with the Pres. of Beltronics Canada. Although he is obviously very interested in what I'm doing, they can't or won't help with my legal bills.

    Best regards,

    Sonny Stone
    So I can see that my OWN approach to this particular matter was finally embraced (at least in words) by you... best of luck :wink:
    There is no Beltronics Canada, there might be Beltronics USA or any other Beltronics international branch, because Beltronics IS a Canadian company you do not use the country name at all... for instance Microsoft Canada, Ford Canada, Sanyo Canada, etc., because this companies are NOT Canadians BUT they have branches on Canadian soil :wink:
    Beltronics CANNOT help you with your fees just because they have an internal deal with (any) Ontario government, they are allowed to function (as they do) in Ontario, in exchange Beltronics is not allowed to take part (help) in any 'anti-RD ban' lawsuit AND they can even play against YOU, reporting anybody who tries to challenge this ban... it's called political deals :wink:

 

 

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