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    Default New semi-permanent speed cam update

    RADAR CAMERAS
    New semi-permanent K-BAND RADAR speed cameras were recently deployed in Montgomery County, MD. See link below for previously posted photos.
    http://www.escortradarforum.com/foru...hlight=poolmon

    LASER CAMERAS
    Now they have deployed these same semi-permenant cameras in Frederick, MD with LASER. These things are DEADLY. Since they are so new, they are not yet in the Defender database AND because the laser hits you from behind you are virtually defenseless. You are clocked before your 9500ix alerts from the rear, and if you have a laser shifter, it does not alert at all unless you have installed rear heads. Even if you have rear heads, your so close when it fires you are likely to get punch through.

    ESCORT
    Would appreciate your updating the Defender database with these new Laser Cameras in Frederick, MD as soon as possible. As I recall reading, they are deploying at least 7 of them in the next few weeks. I just ran across my first one this weekend.

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    Default Re: New semi-permanent speed cam update

    Quote Originally Posted by poolmon View Post
    RADAR CAMERAS
    New semi-permanent K-BAND RADAR speed cameras were recently deployed in Montgomery County, MD. See link below for previously posted photos.
    http://www.escortradarforum.com/foru...hlight=poolmon

    LASER CAMERAS
    Now they have deployed these same semi-permenant cameras in Frederick, MD with LASER. These things are DEADLY. Since they are so new, they are not yet in the Defender database AND because the laser hits you from behind you are virtually defenseless. You are clocked before your 9500ix alerts from the rear, and if you have a laser shifter, it does not alert at all unless you have installed rear heads. Even if you have rear heads, your so close when it fires you are likely to get punch through.

    ESCORT
    Would appreciate your updating the Defender database with these new Laser Cameras in Frederick, MD as soon as possible. As I recall reading, they are deploying at least 7 of them in the next few weeks. I just ran across my first one this weekend.
    If these are the same cameras being deployed in Prince Georges County along certain school zones, these cameras it would appear operate by laser technology. In certain areas of roadway in Prince Georges County, Maryland, I have seen similar looking units. The good news is that the camera units are normally set up on both sides of the roadway or put out enough lidar power that it allows my radar detector the ability to receive the Lidar signal and get notified long before I reach or see the cameras. I have a Beltronics GX65 detector that alerts to the Laser signal long before I reach the cameras. The first time I got the alert, it scared me because Laser being shot by local LEO's is not that common yet. After that initial experience, I have been impressed by the GX65's ability to notify me timely. So far, knock on wood, I have not received a ticket from these units whether the detector was mounted high or low on the windshield. The detector picks up the signal and alerts at all times before reaching these camera units. Then again, the camera units in Frederick could be putting out less power causing your 9500ix from picking up the signal or you may want to consider having the 9500ix checked to ensure it's operating properly.

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    Default Re: New semi-permanent speed cam update

    The one I ran across in Frederick, MD is only monitored in one direction (one box set on one side of the street), so you cannot pick it up until you pass it in its monitored direction. VERY DEADLY!

    It's easy to pick up in the non-monitored direction by both my 9500ix and LI (front mounted heads only).

    Also, they routinely remove the internal electronics/laser in the box, and move the electronics from box to box around the city on different days.

    The similar units that work on K-Band radar in Montgomery County are detectable in both directions (monitored & non-monitored) due to the radar scatter. BUT after 3+ runs by it, autolearn mutes the alarm so you have to have them entered in the Defender DataBase and use its GPS tracking alert.
    Last edited by poolmon; 06-14-2011 at 12:29 PM.

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    Default Re: New semi-permanent speed cam update

    Quote Originally Posted by poolmon View Post
    The one I ran across in Frederick, MD is only monitored in one direction (one box set on one side of the street), so you cannot pick it up until you pass it in its monitored direction. VERY DEADLY!

    It's easy to pick up in the non-monitored direction by both my 9500ix and LI (front mounted heads only).

    Also, they routinely remove the internal electronics/laser in the box, and move the electronics from box to box around the city on different days.

    The similar units that work on K-Band radar in Montgomery County are detectable in both directions (monitored & non-monitored) due to the radar scatter. BUT after 3+ runs by it, autolearn mutes the alarm so you have to have them entered in the Defender DataBase and use its GPS tracking alert.
    Wow, these municipalities are pulling out all the stops for a money grab in the name of safety. Anytime the municipality can place a speed camera within a radius that is 1/2 mile within a school zone, not even on the same street as the school, what public interest is being protected?

    Again wow, Frederick Maryland is vicious. Glad I don't frequent Frederick. So far, I've been lucky in Montgomery County. Have always detected the speed traps prior to getting in range.

    I always dreaded not ponying up the extra dollars for the the autolearn feature but after learning (pun) that your 9500ix is muting an actual alarm, I am concerned about that feature now. With the GX65, I have to mark my own locations so there is no threat of the detector mistakenly marking and muting a known threat for me.

    Recently, I saw an officer, Montgomery County Police, standing on the sidewalk with a handheld speed measuring unit in his hand monitoring rush hour traffic. Didn't see a cruiser or anything else that would have tipped me off and I saw him just by chance. He was not running constant on. When I passed him, he was still on the sidewalk looking into traffic with the unit held down. I did not get an alert of any type. I could not make out whether the unit he was holding was radar or lidar. Do you have an idea whether this is common practice and what type of unit he might be using? Was he running instant on based on your experience? Don't want to get caught unawares.
    Last edited by Chuckee; 06-24-2011 at 12:09 AM.

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    Default Re: New semi-permanent speed cam update

    Most hand held units used from sidewalks in Montgomery County are Laser from what I have encountered.

    They usually only deploy them in non-rush hour traffic.
    During rush hour, either the traffic is too slow, or using one with a parked cruiser would cause traffic to build.
    What you saw could have been a trainee just getting some experience with the car out of site so as not to slow rush hour traffic.

    Montgomery County was one of the first adopters of Laser due to the fact that GEICO (headquartered locally) donated a bunch of units to the local departments.

    ESCORT already has updated the Database to include the 2 newest Frederick cameras. That's fast!
    Last edited by poolmon; 06-24-2011 at 11:20 AM.

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