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    Hello everyone, this is my first post here and you guys are the reason I went out and bought an Escort 9500ix. I specifically bought the 9500ix because I was driving to Florida and didn't want to get a ticket especially since I have a heavy foot. I also learned of how defenseless we are against Laser so in addition to the IX I also bought Veil as well as a radar diffuser license plate cover.

    I just wanted to say that the money I spent was worth every penny. I got hit with laser about 4 separate times on my trip and Veil saved my behind. The laser alert was going off all the way until I passed the LEO, which in my mind meant he wasn't getting a reading due to the application of Veil on my car (white mazda cx9).

    The IX was picking up radar well ahead of the cops sitting on the side of the road hiding in the trees. Yes the alerts are not linear and go to maximum right away but the thing works great. In addition I took it on a test drive in my city and was blown away by the GPS and redlight camera alerts. I couldn't believe how many red light cameras they put up that I didn't notice. It definitely saved me from a ticket in the mail on at least one occasion.

    Well I will let you all go, thank you for the help and advice. To those who are on the fence about getting the 9500ix...if you live or drive through urban or suburban areas...its definitely worth it.

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    No, Veil and a 9500ix will not protect you against laser all, or even most of the time and you should not rely on it for consistent, adequate, and frequent protection. They got your speed. They likely got it at a much slower pace thanks to the Veil, which gave you a chance to slow down before they got a reading. However, this will not work every time. The 9500ix is, while not useless at detecting laser, minimally helpful in most situations. The only radar detector that is really useful against laser is the Valentine One, but even then, it is NOT going to give you consistent protection in every case due to the limitations of laser detection presented by LIDAR (laser) itself. While Veil helps some, you still need an active counter measure to go with it, which is a laser jammer to be more specific. The brand to go with is the Laser Interceptor, and Blinder if you are on a budget.

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    I have an ix also, though I do not see it much since my gf has taken it over. It is awesome in my area due to the redlight cams and numerous k-band doors. A cb radio on your next road trip will help notify you of the laser traps. Welcome to the forum and thanks for sharing your experiences.

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    I guess i forget to leave the part out that I slowed down to the speed limit. I realize veil is not 100% effective and that it buys you extra time...and really thats all I needed.

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    yeah but its still really risky...since there's still a lot of things he can tag you to get your speed.

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    Nicely done and congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanMan View Post
    No, Veil and a 9500ix will not protect you against laser all, or even most of the time and you should not rely on it for consistent, adequate, and frequent protection. They got your speed. They likely got it at a much slower pace thanks to the Veil, which gave you a chance to slow down before they got a reading. However, this will not work every time. The 9500ix is, while not useless at detecting laser, minimally helpful in most situations. The only radar detector that is really useful against laser is the Valentine One, but even then, it is NOT going to give you consistent protection in every case due to the limitations of laser detection presented by LIDAR (laser) itself. While Veil helps some, you still need an active counter measure to go with it, which is a laser jammer to be more specific. The brand to go with is the Laser Interceptor, and Blinder if you are on a budget.
    Have your ever tried Veil? I have and found that it impacts laser detection. You will not get a lower speed reading on a LIDAR gun when targeting a vehicle with Veil or jammers. It either receives a reflection or it doesn't.

    Have you ever tried a ZR4? If you are on a budget and you already own an Escort detector then I recommend using it. It will integrate audio, display and controls with your Escort detector. I haven't seen many posting about getting burnt while using a ZR4. I have used one for years and it has been 100% effective.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EscortRadar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by VanMan View Post
    No, Veil and a 9500ix will not protect you against laser all, or even most of the time and you should not rely on it for consistent, adequate, and frequent protection. They got your speed. They likely got it at a much slower pace thanks to the Veil, which gave you a chance to slow down before they got a reading. However, this will not work every time. The 9500ix is, while not useless at detecting laser, minimally helpful in most situations. The only radar detector that is really useful against laser is the Valentine One, but even then, it is NOT going to give you consistent protection in every case due to the limitations of laser detection presented by LIDAR (laser) itself. While Veil helps some, you still need an active counter measure to go with it, which is a laser jammer to be more specific. The brand to go with is the Laser Interceptor, and Blinder if you are on a budget.
    Have your ever tried Veil? I have and found that it impacts laser detection. You will not get a lower speed reading on a LIDAR gun when targeting a vehicle with Veil or jammers. It either receives a reflection or it doesn't.

    Have you ever tried a ZR4? If you are on a budget and you already own an Escort detector then I recommend using it. It will integrate audio, display and controls with your Escort detector. I haven't seen many posting about getting burnt while using a ZR4. I have used one for years and it has been 100% effective.
    I've used Veil and it definitely works...however, I cant advise relying heavily on just that and a detector, even though my 9500ix does quite well with LIDAR. When I said "slower pace", I meant in the actual time it took them from when they began target acquisition to when they locked the speed, not the speed reading itself...I kinda worded that poorly.

    For quite some time I was using a ZR3 with Veil, and the Veil seemed to help reduce the lock distance substantially with certain guns, such as the Stalker LZ1. I had no issues but I imagine my ZR3 now is pretty dated as that was a while ago. How well does the ZR4 work with the newer 'anti-jam' laser guns? For someone on a budget, a used ZR4 or M20/40 are both good choices given they have shown their long-term durability and effectiveness.

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    From all the testing I've seen with Veil, it looks like it'll help you noticeably with cheap ass shots from afar, buying you a few seconds of time to react provided your radar detector can detect the direct shot. But at close range, you're probably toast, veil or not.

    With that said, Veil + eyes might be a semi-effective countermeasure if using laser jammers is not an option for you. Otherwise, it feels more financially viable to just invest in jammers, since veil + ticket is close to the price of a jammer anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanMan View Post
    How well does the ZR4 work with the newer 'anti-jam' laser guns? For someone on a budget, a used ZR4 or M20/40 are both good choices given they have shown their long-term durability and effectiveness.
    The only differences between the ZR3 and ZR4 are: the lense on the front of the ZR4 enhances performance, the included mounts are different, and the ZR4's ability to jam Laser Atlanta's double pulsed stealth mode.


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