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    Default Re: BREAKING: Early testing suggests the new Cis are most impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomNBye View Post
    With all due respect Mr. Veil Guy, Escort is touting that the M360ci s slaying the Dragon, when in fact 1/5 guns so far have defeated it and more to come.
    Not sure what 1/5 means, but of course, more testing from more sources against more lasers and vehicle combinations are in order, to be sure.

    Hopefully, ER hasn't overhyped it. They are quite confident in the unit (but it wouldn't be the first time, either).
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    Default Re: BREAKING: Early testing suggests the new Cis are most impressive

    Why did you say it was the Best Veil Guy?

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Early testing suggests the new Cis are most impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by Veil Guy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomNBye View Post
    With all due respect Mr. Veil Guy, Escort is touting that the M360ci s slaying the Dragon, when in fact 1/5 guns so far have defeated it and more to come.
    Not sure what 1/5 means, but of course, more testing from more sources against more lasers and vehicle combinations are in order, to be sure.

    Hopefully, ER hasn't overhyped it. They are quite confident in the unit (but it wouldn't be the first time, either).
    1 out of 5 and it couldn't handle ECCM on as well. The ONLY gun it " alerted" to was some old legacy and a 14 DET. Even Mobile Electronics in Canada admitted its way behind the curve when it comes to DET.
    I believe that the new Sheriff in town has been fired already .

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    Default Re: BREAKING: Early testing suggests the new Cis are most impressive

    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomNBye View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Veil Guy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ZoomNBye View Post
    With all due respect Mr. Veil Guy, Escort is touting that the M360ci s slaying the Dragon, when in fact 1/5 guns so far have defeated it and more to come.
    Not sure what 1/5 means, but of course, more testing from more sources against more lasers and vehicle combinations are in order, to be sure.

    Hopefully, ER hasn't overhyped it. They are quite confident in the unit (but it wouldn't be the first time, either).
    1 out of 5 and it couldn't handle ECCM on as well. The ONLY gun it " alerted" to was some old legacy and a 14 DET. Even Mobile Electronics in Canada admitted its way behind the curve when it comes to DET.
    I believe that the new Sheriff in town has been fired already .
    Actually, I believe the more accurate term is lynched. That's what some like to do on these forums.

    The problem with DE testing in general is that there are so many different variations (by design of DE) each with their own pulse-train patterns, unless every single one is accounted for (which may actually be extremely difficult to do) and is always a moving target (ie; what is good today, may not literally be good tomorrow).

    I have yet to see an extremely thorough test that show the results of ALL of the versions/variations of the DE. I've already seen tests that cherry pick which ones to use and which ones not to use.

    I'd appreciate a comprehensive test that pitted EVERY version/variation of ECCM guns against a host a jammer installs. Showing results from a small subset of guns can shape opinion depending upon which ones were actually use and documented.

    BUT EVEN MORE THAN THAT: I'd like to see these thing tested in a manner in which the police actually target, not contrived tests which don't reflect how police lasers are actually used.

    I believe the underlying platform is entirely capable of handling the versions floating around, it's just likely a matter of knowing them, and then simply programming the system to handle the ones that are not known. Fundamentally, I believe the hardware platform is well-established.

    Speaking of firmware/software updates. How many tests of have some of those guys been involved with where OTF programming was done in the face of a particular gun algo encounter during actual testing.

    It wouldn't surprise me if certain supporters of ALP (like the supporters of LI before it) were rooting for Escort to "fail."

    But, I'd suggest that we give more time and allow more testing before coming to definitive "FAIL" conclusion so early on. I think RR touched on that notion as well.

    Just give it a little time to play out...No need to hyperventilate at this point.
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    Default Re: BREAKING: Early testing suggests the new Cis are most impressive

    Veil Guy,
    Can I please ask what type of testing you did? You said Escort was the best why? I saw a video where Escort failed to a 2015 dragon eye gun? Will Escort have a update from Canada in 5 days? Is there unit the new Blinder? Why can't you show us what testing you're talking about in video please?
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