Mixing HP heads with regular heads on same CPU?

[TuonoR]

Is it possible to get a 2-head regular LI unit and then add a single HP unit for the rear by plugging it into the same CPU? Am considering this configuration as it would keep me below the misdemeanor definition of a jamming device in Cali (where jammers are illegal).

Also, is the rear HP unit also available in "low profile" or is it deeper than the regular one? A deeper unit would probably create an install issue for me.

Thanks.

[trailtow]

It would work the other way around you need an hp
CPU then you can plug regular heads into that iirc cat4 runs that set up

[Laser-InterceptorUSA]

Is it possible to get a 2-head regular LI unit and then add a single HP unit for the rear by plugging it into the same CPU? Am considering this configuration as it would keep me below the misdemeanor definition of a jamming device in Cali (where jammers are illegal).

Also, is the rear HP unit also available in "low profile" or is it deeper than the regular one? A deeper unit would probably create an install issue for me.

Thanks.

Yes, our new Generation 8 CPU allows for both the HP and non-HP Sensors to be mixed.

Effective March 1, 2010, we have eliminated the larger sensor from our US product line completely. With the new Generation 8's enhanced receiver and detection capabilities, we can now fully exploit the smaller, slim sensor in both the front and rear vehicle applications whilst at the same time, allowing for easier and more stealthy installs due to their smaller foot print.

Cliff

[scottp999]

Is it possible to get a 2-head regular LI unit and then add a single HP unit for the rear by plugging it into the same CPU? Am considering this configuration as it would keep me below the misdemeanor definition of a jamming device in Cali (where jammers are illegal).

Also, is the rear HP unit also available in "low profile" or is it deeper than the regular one? A deeper unit would probably create an install issue for me.

Thanks.

Yes, our new Generation 8 CPU allows for both the HP and non-HP Sensors to be mixed.

Effective March 1, 2010, we have eliminated the larger sensor from our US product line completely. With the new Generation 8's enhanced receiver and detection capabilities, we can now fully exploit the smaller, slim sensor in both the front and rear vehicle applications whilst at the same time, allowing for easier and more stealthy installs due to their smaller foot print.

Cliff

Excellent. Will make for an easier head upgrade sometime in the furture.

[category4]

I think the CA law is systems not heads. It's meant to discourage dealers from stocking the units.

[Oyusan]

I think the CA law is systems not heads. It's meant to discourage dealers from stocking the units.

Correct, a LI Quad is a single system just as a LI Dual is a single system.

[TuonoR]

I think the CA law is systems not heads. It's meant to discourage dealers from stocking the units.

Correct, a LI Quad is a single system just as a LI Dual is a single system.

The CA vehicle code refers to a "device" not a system. Since each individual laser head has its own sensor and emitter and thus operates relatively independently, it could be argued that a four head system includes 4 jamming "devices".

Any lawyers know how the courts interpret this?

[category4]

I think the CA law is systems not heads. It's meant to discourage dealers from stocking the units.

Correct, a LI Quad is a single system just as a LI Dual is a single system.

The CA vehicle code refers to a "device" not a system. Since each individual laser head has its own sensor and emitter and thus operates relatively independently, it could be argued that a four head system includes 4 jamming "devices".

Any lawyers know how the courts interpret this?

Doesn't do a thing without 1 CPU!!!

[Oyusan]

A head as itself is not a jamming device. It consists of a receiver and transmitter. They are tools used by the computer - the jammer. What is the difference between a jamming head with one transmitting diode and two transmitting diodes?

If you count one head as a jamming device, do you count the switch as a jamming device? What about the computer? The computer actually has the algorithms and the design to defeat Lidar guns.

A jamming device consists of the switch, the heads, the computer, and any other bells and whistles it might have. Without the heads, it won't work. Without the CPU, it won't work. All of the parts together form the jamming device.

If you are caught with a jammer in California, which is unlikely, you will need a lawyer regardless. LEOs not only charge you with jammer possession, but can also charge you with other things as well. I have heard of cases where people were charged with interfering with an investigation and obstruction of justice. Although it won't hold up in court, you go to jail, have to post bail, need a lawyer, etc.

If you get a jammer here in California, be prepared to play the game and accept the responsibilities that come along with it. Interpreting the law you broke will be left to the courts. Keep in mind that if an LEO catches you with a jammer will probably not be too happy and will try to put as many charges against you as he can.

Remember, getting caught is unlikely though.
I have my lawyer on speed dial just in case.
It is the game. =)

BTW, never answer questions in a traffic stop. Just say, "I am invoking my right to remain silent." Let them do their investigations and make their own mistakes. Wait for your day in court with a jury trial and a lawyer.

-Oyu

[TuonoR]

A jamming device consists of the switch, the heads, the computer, and any other bells and whistles it might have. Without the heads, it won't work. Without the CPU, it won't work. All of the parts together form the jamming device.

My point was merely that the wording of the law is not clear. As you suggest later in your post (below), we should probably assume we know nothing when it comes to interpreting technical components of the law. Its not prima facie obvious that "device" means integrated system, or laser diode, or laser diode / sensor assembly, or whatever. This is why I assume the more conservative definition (and said "could be argued" previously) -- I just don't know.

If you are caught with a jammer in California, which is unlikely, you will need a lawyer regardless. LEOs not only charge you with jammer possession, but can also charge you with other things as well. I have heard of cases where people were charged with interfering with an investigation and obstruction of justice. Although it won't hold up in court, you go to jail, have to post bail, need a lawyer, etc.

Under your interpretation, it would actually be a minor issue as having fewer than 4 "devices" is classified as an infraction under the Code, which carries with it a maximum fine of $250 and no jail time (that's what misdemeanors are for). Since you seem confident in your definition of "device", you have nothing to worry about. I on the other hand...

If anyone has any real world experience of getting a jammer ticker in Cali while running 4+ heads, please chime in...