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    Default how do you know if it is jamming?

    Would it be safe to say that everytime a LI alerts it sends out a jamming signal?
    Like when the LI goes off, if it can detect the signal should it also be able to jam the signal? Or does it depend on how the head is mounted?
    I know the general rule is 18" away from headlights and center of mass, so as long as my li continues to alert, the gun should be jammed?

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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    put your face close to it and see if they are firing but not to close.
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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    It gives an alert when it detects a lidar signal, and it sends out jamming pulses for as long as it sees the lidar signal.

    The alert (siren + gun ID) plays through once, and repeats if it's still jamming as of the end of the gun ID (or the "please slow down" on older CPUs).

    The LED in the switch also flashes while jamming. This gives a better indication of jam duration than the audio alert. For example, if you get a quick burst of scatter when the LEO shoots someone else, it might only send out a few jamming pulses but you'll still get the full audio alert. The LED will go back to steady as soon as it stops receiving a signal (and thus stops jamming).

    Whether or not the pulses successfully jam the gun is also dependent on the installation; if the heads are unlevel, not aimed correctly or obstructed the gun could get a "punch-through".

    If you want to see if the heads are actually firing, use a cellphone camera, or a digital camera that has a "nightshot" mode and shoot the head with a remote or laser tester and see if it fires back through the camera.
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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    Drive faster and see if you get pulled over

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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    Find someone in your area who has gun(s) and can hook up with you to test your setup. You won't know how effective your install is until it's tested with a real gun.
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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by radarrob View Post
    put your face close to it and see if they are firing but not to close.
    +1. Do it at night time. you'll be able to see the waves its emitting.

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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    I'd use a camera and record it, but I don't recommend looking straight into the lens. I did and it gave me a headache.

    The camera will be able to film the diodes firing.

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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by Weeth View Post
    I'd use a camera and record it, but I don't recommend looking straight into the lens. I did and it gave me a headache.

    The camera will be able to film the diodes firing.
    X2 on the camera. Looking into the lens can cause eye damage. "Do not stare into laser with remaining eye!"
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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by kpatz View Post
    It gives an alert when it detects a lidar signal, and it sends out jamming pulses for as long as it sees the lidar signal.

    The alert (siren + gun ID) plays through once, and repeats if it's still jamming as of the end of the gun ID (or the "please slow down" on older CPUs).

    The LED in the switch also flashes while jamming. This gives a better indication of jam duration than the audio alert. For example, if you get a quick burst of scatter when the LEO shoots someone else, it might only send out a few jamming pulses but you'll still get the full audio alert. The LED will go back to steady as soon as it stops receiving a signal (and thus stops jamming).

    Whether or not the pulses successfully jam the gun is also dependent on the installation; if the heads are unlevel, not aimed correctly or obstructed the gun could get a "punch-through".

    If you want to see if the heads are actually firing, use a cellphone camera, or a digital camera that has a "nightshot" mode and shoot the head with a remote or laser tester and see if it fires back through the camera.
    Ok. Thanks. That explained it VERY well...

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    Default Re: how do you know if it is jamming?

    Quote Originally Posted by yellowcab View Post
    Drive faster and see if you get pulled over



    LoL, this is a very reliable method.

    On a serious note, I'd like to see a 2nd separate audible tone that is played ONLY while the heads are firing (2nd tone plays simultaneously with current alert).

    This would be helpful to make a accurate assement of the encounter. For example, how long you were actutually targeted before you JTK , or was there a PT.

    Looking down to see if the LED is blinking isn’t very practical when trying to slow down to the PSL during an encounter.

    Just a idea.

 

 

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