Regaurdless of GOL AL is not the best, here is why!!

[Ford_Focus_05]

My proof is my personal use of the Zr3 and JTWs and Musie's BLIND TEST!!!

OH and I am sure Happya$$ will tell you how good his Zr3 is!!

how does your car with VEIL and looks nothing like any of the cars used compare...

YOU ARE TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES, MOTORCYLES TO CARS :roll: I am glad to see you never have taken a lab science and know nothing about the experiemental procedure that must be followed if you want to compare results. :roll:

Rob Like I said stop flaming my thread!!

I all my classes are Lab Lecture combined!! I know how to compair test!

Out of the number of people who own a Zr3, which is growing, compaired to the people who actually bought a AL7. So you want to campare car to car... well lets see... Why dont you ask Navi??? I am sure he can tell you that his Zr3 kicks a$$...

MY WHOLE FREAKIN POINT IS----ITS A WASTE OF MONEY TO SPEND $800 DOLLARS ON A JAMMER ALONE WHEN I CAN GET JTG PERFORMANCE WITH A $499 SETUP OF THE Zr3, Veil, and LS!!!! WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE BUY A AL7 SINGLE HEAD AT $600 WHEN YOU CAN SPEND $499 AND GET IT FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE... ROB I THOUGHT YOU WERE LOOKING OUT FOR THE CONSUMER... ITS OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YOU WANT NOTHING MORE THAN PEOPLE TO BUY AL!!! I AM TELLING PEOPLE A FEW THINGS SPEND LESS MONEY FOR PROVEN PERFORMANCE!! GET IT FROM ROY A RELIABLE SOURCE!! SAVE YOURSELF A HEADACHE TRYING TO CONTACT AL!!

YOU WANT A FAIR COMPARISON COMPARE THIS
THE PRICE TAG FOR A VEIL ZR3 AND LS!! $499...
THE PRICE TAG FOR THE NEEDED AL DUAL HEADS VEIL AND LS $899!!

SO WHATS BETTER ZR3 OR AL... ROB ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE REALLY NOT READING!! I COMPARED NUMBERS... THERE ARE YOUR NUMBERS!!
WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE SPEND AN EXTRA $400 WHEN YOU CAN GET HONEST QUOTES FROM ME, HAPPY, AND NAVI TELLING HOW GOOD THEIR ZR3 WORKS!!

ALSO WE ALL KNOW THAT VEIL ALONE IN BEST CASE SENARIO WONT HELP YOU AROUND 400-350 FT.... SO HOW IS VEIL GOING TO HELP A JAMMER WHEN IT GETS PTs AT 800,500,300 FT???

I HONESTLY HOPE PEOPLE DONT ACTUALLY LISTEN TO ROB HE WANTS YOU TO SPEND AN EXTRA $400 DOLLARS FOR A JAMMER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT GIVE YOU JTG RESULTS...

Note: Admins my last statement is not a personal attack, I only said that because of Rob's pervious statement!

[happya$$]

My proof is my personal use of the Zr3 and JTWs and Musie's BLIND TEST!!!

OH and I am sure Happya$$ will tell you how good his Zr3 is!!

how does your car with VEIL and looks nothing like any of the cars used compare...

YOU ARE TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES, MOTORCYLES TO CARS :roll: I am glad to see you never have taken a lab science and know nothing about the experiemental procedure that must be followed if you want to compare results. :roll:

Rob Like I said stop flaming my thread!!

I all my classes are Lab Lecture combined!! I know how to compair test!

Out of the number of people who own a Zr3, which is growing, compaired to the people who actually bought a AL7. So you want to campare car to car... well lets see... Why dont you ask Navi??? I am sure he can tell you that his Zr3 kicks a$$...

MY WHOLE FREAKIN POINT IS----ITS A WASTE OF MONEY TO SPEND $800 DOLLARS ON A JAMMER ALONE WHEN I CAN GET JTG PERFORMANCE WITH A $499 SETUP OF THE Zr3, Veil, and LS!!!! WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE BUY A AL7 SINGLE HEAD AT $600 WHEN YOU CAN SPEND $499 AND GET IT FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE... ROB I THOUGHT YOU WERE LOOKING OUT FOR THE CONSUMER... ITS OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YOU WANT NOTHING MORE THAN PEOPLE TO BUY AL!!! I AM TELLING PEOPLE A FEW THINGS SPEND LESS MONEY FOR PROVEN PERFORMANCE!! GET IT FROM ROY A RELIABLE SOURCE!! SAVE YOURSELF A HEADACHE TRYING TO CONTACT AL!!

YOU WANT A FAIR COMPARISON COMPARE THIS
THE PRICE TAG FOR A VEIL ZR3 AND LS!! $499...
THE PRICE TAG FOR THE NEEDED AL DUAL HEADS VEIL AND LS $899!!

SO WHATS BETTER ZR3 OR AL... ROB ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE REALLY NOT READING!! I COMPARED NUMBERS... THERE ARE YOUR NUMBERS!!
WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE SPEND AN EXTRA $400 WHEN YOU CAN GET HONEST QUOTES FROM ME, HAPPY, AND NAVI TELLING HOW GOOD THEIR ZR3 WORKS!!

ALSO WE ALL KNOW THAT VEIL ALONE IN BEST CASE SENARIO WONT HELP YOU AROUND 400-350 FT.... SO HOW IS VEIL GOING TO HELP A JAMMER WHEN IT GETS PTs AT 800,500,300 FT???

I HONESTLY HOPE PEOPLE DONT ACTUALLY LISTEN TO ROB HE WANTS YOU TO SPEND AN EXTRA $400 DOLLARS FOR A JAMMER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT GIVE YOU JTG RESULTS...

Note: Admins my last statement is not a personal attack, I only said that because of Rob's pervious statement!

I thought that it was $650 for an AL dual head?

[Ford_Focus_05]

My proof is my personal use of the Zr3 and JTWs and Musie's BLIND TEST!!!

OH and I am sure Happya$$ will tell you how good his Zr3 is!!

how does your car with VEIL and looks nothing like any of the cars used compare...

YOU ARE TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES, MOTORCYLES TO CARS :roll: I am glad to see you never have taken a lab science and know nothing about the experiemental procedure that must be followed if you want to compare results. :roll:

Rob Like I said stop flaming my thread!!

I all my classes are Lab Lecture combined!! I know how to compair test!

Out of the number of people who own a Zr3, which is growing, compaired to the people who actually bought a AL7. So you want to campare car to car... well lets see... Why dont you ask Navi??? I am sure he can tell you that his Zr3 kicks a$$...

MY WHOLE FREAKIN POINT IS----ITS A WASTE OF MONEY TO SPEND $800 DOLLARS ON A JAMMER ALONE WHEN I CAN GET JTG PERFORMANCE WITH A $499 SETUP OF THE Zr3, Veil, and LS!!!! WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE BUY A AL7 SINGLE HEAD AT $600 WHEN YOU CAN SPEND $499 AND GET IT FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE... ROB I THOUGHT YOU WERE LOOKING OUT FOR THE CONSUMER... ITS OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YOU WANT NOTHING MORE THAN PEOPLE TO BUY AL!!! I AM TELLING PEOPLE A FEW THINGS SPEND LESS MONEY FOR PROVEN PERFORMANCE!! GET IT FROM ROY A RELIABLE SOURCE!! SAVE YOURSELF A HEADACHE TRYING TO CONTACT AL!!

YOU WANT A FAIR COMPARISON COMPARE THIS
THE PRICE TAG FOR A VEIL ZR3 AND LS!! $499...
THE PRICE TAG FOR THE NEEDED AL DUAL HEADS VEIL AND LS $899!!

SO WHATS BETTER ZR3 OR AL... ROB ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE REALLY NOT READING!! I COMPARED NUMBERS... THERE ARE YOUR NUMBERS!!
WHY THE HELL WOULD ANYONE SPEND AN EXTRA $400 WHEN YOU CAN GET HONEST QUOTES FROM ME, HAPPY, AND NAVI TELLING HOW GOOD THEIR ZR3 WORKS!!

ALSO WE ALL KNOW THAT VEIL ALONE IN BEST CASE SENARIO WONT HELP YOU AROUND 400-350 FT.... SO HOW IS VEIL GOING TO HELP A JAMMER WHEN IT GETS PTs AT 800,500,300 FT???

I HONESTLY HOPE PEOPLE DONT ACTUALLY LISTEN TO ROB HE WANTS YOU TO SPEND AN EXTRA $400 DOLLARS FOR A JAMMER THAT MAY OR MAY NOT GIVE YOU JTG RESULTS...

Note: Admins my last statement is not a personal attack, I only said that because of Rob's pervious statement!

I thought that it was $650 for an AL dual head?

I dont believe so after all the exchange rate and shipping!
But EVEN IF IT IS $650 that is still $749...for $50 more you can get 2 Zr3's Veil and Laser Sheild ...

Are you not seeing my point???

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Rob Like I said stop flaming my thread!!!

Stop flaming mine!!!!! I have no reason to flame your unless you flam mine...It's sad you are such a hypocrite...You can flame my threads but i can not flames yous???? :roll:

If you have taken Lab class your understnad fully that the results can not be compared or maybe the teachers are not as serios as my my chem lab professors

[D'Anthony]

You seem to be full of hate, ive read your posts. A lot of hostility. Regardless of what you are studying. Your blood pressure and mental health will soon catch up and kill you

[Ford_Focus_05]

Rob Like I said stop flaming my thread!!!

Stop flaming mine!!!!! I have no reason to flame your unless you flam mine...It's sad you are such a hypocrite...You can flame my threads but i can not flames yous???? :roll:

If you have taken Lab class your understnad fully that the results can not be compared or maybe the teachers are not as serios as my my chem lab professors

Rob I said that because you accuse me of flaming your thread and I have not!! but you just admited to flaming mine...Admins!!

You really need to chill out... your post are becoming more and more excuses for AL!!

Dude I really dont care what you are taking... you cant compare your eduaction to mine they are in completely different fields...hows that for your lab science!!

And I wasnt comparing test...I was comparing numbers!! I know that my setup gives JTG performance!! and its also the MUCH BETTER BUY!!!
Chill out you need to just face it... You know I am right you just constantly hate on me because you cant admit I am right...if I make a post regaurding jammers you are always on my ass about something I say!!

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Rob Like I said stop flaming my thread!!!

Stop flaming mine!!!!! I have no reason to flame your unless you flam mine...It's sad you are such a hypocrite...You can flame my threads but i can not flames yous???? :roll:

If you have taken Lab class your understnad fully that the results can not be compared or maybe the teachers are not as serios as my my chem lab professors

Rob I said that because you accuse me of flaming your thread and I have not!! but you just admited to flaming mine...Admins!!

You really need to chill out... your post are becoming more and more excuses for AL!!

Dude I really dont care what you are taking... you cant compare your eduaction to mine they are in completely different fields...hows that for your lab science!!

And I wasnt comparing test...I was comparing numbers!! I know that my setup gives JTG performance!! and its also the MUCH BETTER BUY!!!
Chill out you need to just face it... You know I am right you just constantly hate on me because you cant admit I am right...if I make a post regaurding jammers you are always on my ass about something I say!!

Ford I understand what you are trying to do but do not ever flame a person and think you are immune to get flamed back. So just stop flaming me and I will stop flaming you. BTW I am an admin and some members think I should just let you go and make these post that scream agenda and are quite uneducated at times slide. I am not that type of person.

Your posts agenda scream Anything but Anti-Laser. So using your logic anything but Anti-Laser is the Laser Mimic which failed independent testing but the videos produced said otherwise(But you don't understand the Laser Mimic issue cause it occured before you were a member)

I am not trying to compare education I am trying to instruct you on the proper experimental procedure because you seem to be a little off on yours.

Now you say you are not comparing tests, but comparing numbers correct? Now how were those numbers obtained? Those numbers were obtained by tests performed by you(when driving past cops), JTWand Go.mouse(In canada) and the Guys Of Lidar(at one of there jammer testing weekends) Correct?

So in each test were all the same testing conditons used? No they aren't so the numbers really can't compare. For example, Just because you get JTG with VEIL, LS and Escort Zr3 does not mean the Escort Zr3 will always give JTGs, you need to look at the situations. What was the gun used, what type of car was Veil used? What is the car color? Chrome or No chrome is veil on the chrome or just the lights. See the testing that i have done on my car and my firneds car I need to look at all these externalities. It is these externalities which limit the ability to compare numbers.

I will try to hold myself back but please keep in mind just cause you get JTGs on your car doesn't mean I should get them on my Hummer(don't have one thank god). Each car is different. Why did I buy a laser gun? To test out my car and make it so my car will have the lowest punchthrough around

[Ford_Focus_05]

You are absoultly rediculous!!!!!!!

Rob just stop!! RIGHT NOW STOP IT!!

I maid my point and its valid!! VERY MUCH SO!!!

MY NUMBERS ARE MONEY.....DOLLAR BILLS!! WHAT PEOPLE PAY WITH!!!

STOP TRYING TO COVER UP MY TOTALLY OBVIOUS POINT!! WITH YOUR USELESS POST!!!


I told you to chill out people dont need to read 10 pages of you trying to discredit me... or insulting my education!! If this is how moderators are suppose to act then your setting a great example!!

would you quit with the laser mimic thats over and dead with.. why are you trying to confuse everyone I have said nothin about any jammers except Zr3 and AL!!

I told people to look at what you can get for $499 since you staton happy all agree that the AL Dual is needed on every car...and you want to add veil...for that price I can get 2 Zr3 Veil and LS And I can get plenty of Zr3 owners to say that the Zr3 kicks ass!!

You are constantly trying to discredit every VAILD point I make...

YOU ARE MODERATOR... YOU ARE SUPPOSE TO SET THE EXAMPLE!!! STOP IT!! You are making Roy's thread worse!!

And I am the one with the clear agenda... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Actually I wanted to stop and just ignore this post but telling me to stop I will not.

Your information applys losely. To make sure you have a valid point you need to take a car, lets say yours since you all ready have the Escort Zr3 mounted on it and run a test of your car no VEIL or Laser Sheild with both a Escort Zr3 and Single head AL7 separately. Document the results. Then add VEIL and LaserShield see the results again. This would be a great way to prove your point as being 100% valid. Ford I am a person who is very critical and thorough when testing stuff. When forming an argument or listening the first thing i do is for look for is holes in it and how can I limit those holes in order to have a good argument. That is why I am poking holes in your argument Ford I want it to be 100% valid not 90% valid. Any person that wants good thorough testing would understand my reasons.

I see your cost reasons but your results of the Escort Zr3 involve veil and laser sheild and the results of go.mouse use just the AL7 no veil, and laser shield once. Also I might as he has a chrome grill and you do not. Ford I know you think I am trying to cover up punchthroughs but you are failing to see these huge differences
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BTW - I am done responding to you on the board over this issue please lets do this in PMs or on AIM or MSN Messenger

[Ford_Focus_05]

Let me quote myself sense you missed my point!!

MY NUMBERS ARE MONEY.....DOLLAR BILLS!! WHAT PEOPLE PAY WITH!!!

I guess you missed that!!
Zr3 Combo is a much SMARTER AND BETTER BUY BOTTOM LINE!!!