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    Default Quebec Testing Lidar

    Has anybody have easy access to a police lidar

    to test some stealth trick i developed my-self.

    I could buy an Osprey Range/Speed unit , but is it

    an true equivalent to a real police radar ?

    I looked for someone in the Montreal area , Quebec .

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    Default Re: Quebec Testing Lidar

    Quote Originally Posted by 411radarlover
    Has anybody have easy access to a police lidar

    to test some stealth trick i developed my-self.

    I could buy an Osprey Range/Speed unit , but is it

    an true equivalent to a real police radar ?

    I looked for someone in the Montreal area , Quebec .
    The osprey sets off laser jammers and radar detectors. If you want to test the "stealth trick" of yours I would recommend you try and jam this first. If you can jam the osprey then you can always go up from there.

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    Would you be willing to share this stealth trick with us?

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    Brick and all friends ,

    I will gladly share my tricks but I have not been able to

    test them with proof they are effective.

    The first one i have in mind is making a haze effect on my

    headlight against lidar.

    Since headlight is the second big reflector after the license plate.

    The idea is the same principle as when you are looking

    in a mirror which is fogged , one can see himself but with

    a blurred image.

    What i tried to blur the laser return , like a diffuser ,

    the returned light is there but more diffused thus

    less in focus.

    1)

    Spray the headlight with

    a hair spraynet , let dry and check the return with a pencil

    laser : the return is all over and not as sharp .

    The spaynet is very easily remove with water.

    I beleive that veil is working on the same principle but much

    more avanced in the formulation.

    2) The second trick is based on the same principle.

    You need a bottle of '' Gallery Glass '' number 16001 , 2 fl.oz.

    by Plaid bought at Wallm bar code = 028995 160011 around $3.00ca

    You take just enough of this product and dilute it with highly

    salted water , stir well and you obtain a quite liquid solution.

    With a brush you applain a very thin coat on the headlight

    that you have prepared by taping all around to obtain

    a define edge.

    Let dry , you will see at closely an array of dentrites ,like

    snow flake , the beam of light will still pass thru but i

    figure the return of laser light will be diffused and defocused.

    This could not work in real situation

    but the principle is there , it is kind

    of veil for the poor.

    Do not get me wrong , it is not Veil , it is just experimentation.

    Let me know what do you think .

    With the Plaid it is bit harder to remove since the base is

    waterproof but with Methyl Hydrate it is dissolved quite easily .

    And this do not harm the plastic of the headlight.

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    Hmmm... I have a Target RD tester but this wouldn't show any "jamming" characteristic...

    Hey I remember they used to sell at Canadian Tire those "smoked" headlight covers... "GTO" or something? I wonder if those would have any effect?

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    Default Water blanket

    1)_ Q... What makes water able to fend off RADAR detection? IR Detection?
    A... Water, especially sea water, is highly electrically conductive and if the water droplets are compact enough, RADAR waves will be reflected just as if the surface were metal. Also, streams of sea water will absorb as well scatter radar energy.
    ... Heat from the stacks, etc., can be obscured from IR Detection by sufficiently thick Pre-Cooled water blanket
    From a very interesting site about stealth :

    http://www.williamson-labs.com/stealthy-ship.htm

    Smart , about those CT cover , i think it could help but

    without testing equipment , it is all supposition ...

    what about starting a local testing ground ?

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    What about installing a similar system and create a deluge

    on the highway ?

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    hmm..you would need a tanker to supply the water...that wouldnt go down well on the highway..haha

 

 

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