BLINDER M25/ZR3 CONNECTORS
I HAVE A ZR3 FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS NOW,AND I RECENTLY PURCHASED A BLINDER M25.MY QUESTION :SHOULD I RUN BOTH JAMMERS ON THE FRONT OF MY CAR.AND ALSO THE BOTH HAVE THE SAME FOUR PIN CONNECTOR.DO YOU THINK I CAN USE THE ZR3 CONTROL BOX WITH THE ZR3 AND THE BLINDERS,SO I CAN RUN THEM WITH MY ESCORT 8500.ANY COMMENTS?? :roll:
03-31-2008 07:29 PM # ADS
Stealthier than Happya$$
No you need to use each jammer's control box to run each jammer
I would recommend using both jammers though for added protection
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Thanks for the fast reply.But i have spoke to a few people and they said they MAY interfer with each other.What do you think.
I have yet to hear from anyone who actually owns and uses both the ZR3 and the Blinder products, particularly at the same time, on the same vehicle.
Although it is known that the Blinder M40/30/20 heads tends to elicit cross-talk from adjacent jammer heads, this has only been documented, via video (by brother RacerX), in a "benchtop" manner, and furthermore, at least to the best of my recall, only in terms of co-use with today's leading diode-based jammers (which are *extremely* sensitive, in terms of reception).
interceptor.tw did document, verbally, a situation where the co-use of the LI with the Blinder 0-Suffix units did cause, in a "real-world" testing situation, some rather unpredictable early-PTs (with other runs "JTG"). Why this happened, he doesn't know, but his recommendation was not to run the LI and Blinder together.
My suspicion is that the Blinder's jammer heads is likely the root-cause of the issue. The reason for my assumption comes from the views we were given of the Blinder heads by IRCMUSA, who, through the use of his IR videos, demonstrated that the entire forward half of the Blinder heads is made of IR-transparent plastic. My guess is that this allows more of the outgoing LED pulses to "leak" towards the periphery, which would then cause nearby jammer heads to in-turn fire towards this perceived (and non-LIDAR) signal. This in turn may cause a mismatch in the jamming sequence seen by the police LIDAR threat.
Is there any proof to this?
No, neither quantitative nor qualitative - this is just, for now, my assumption. ops:
However, it is seen (albeit with only qualitative evidence, again of the "benchtop" fashion) that with the ZR3 - which does NOT have such an IR-transparent head configuration (with the exception of the lens, of course!) - cross-talk is only elicited when the OUTPUT area of the jammer head is in close enough proximity to a reflective surface, and the other jammer head can thus see the "flash" of such an output. This happened to Ronin's (on RR.net), and while he documented such cross-talk occuring (ZR3 -to- LPP) in the confines of his garage (with the wall mere inches away from the front bumper of his vehicle, where the jammer heads were situated), he could not elicit the same in a real-world jammer testing scenario, "versus" a real LIDAR threat setup.
Overall, though, I am not inclined to run a ZR3 + Blinder combo, at least not all in one direction, [particularly if your vehicle does not offer enough frontal surface to allow you to space the jammer heads apart far enough.
However, if you are able to situate the heads far apart enough (while still maintaining the crucial "18-inches" scenario demanded of the LED-based jammers) and can furthermore "shield" the output of the Blinder from the ZR3, I think that would be a very viable setup.
Otherwise, stick one set of heads up front, and another set out back - and judge which heads go where based on your biggest potential threats, and how each jammer fares against said threat.
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