n00b jammer questions

**RadarFanatic86** · 07-21-2008, 07:52 PM

Ok so finally I decide that Iam going to get my self a good laser jammer, right know I have an rx65, and I live in IL, so laser jammers are illgeal here, but I do know when I do get hit slow down and turn the jammer off.

I have looked at these GOL Laser Jammer test, and I have no I idea what they are talking about or what does each number mean, anyways I taught maybe you guys could help me choose which one, my price range is $500, Iam pretty sure that is enough

And one more question, but what is the differnce between laser jammers and blinder laser jammers, ( sorry for the stupid question).

I have a 2000 Ford Taurus that I just bought if incase you guys need to know what car Iam driving, and its grayish and blueish color.

**Stealth Stalker** · 07-21-2008, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by RadarFanatic86

I have looked at these GOL Laser Jammer test, and I have no I idea what they are talking about or what does each number mean...

That's okay. Doesn't really matter since those tests are a year old, and none of the jammers tested are the currently available production models. The new SML tests are due out any day now, and GOL are supposed to be testing again sometime between now and the end of the millennium. You might want to wait for more up to date info.

...And one more question, but what is the differnce between laser jammers and blinder laser jammers, ( sorry for the stupid question).

The Blinders are IR LED based jammers, whereas the LI and others utilise laser diodes to transmit their signal. Theoretically, at least, the diode jammers work more efficiently, but they are twice as expensive too. Latest reports are that the newer version Blinder M25 (J15) is a significant improvement and has performance rivalling the diode jammers. That has yet to be determined by GOL or SML yet though. I just got mine, so I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but it's one of the few choices under $500 dollars. As always, you really have to ask yourself if the investment is actually worth it, calculated against the probability of you actually getting over $500 dollars worth of laser speeding tickets in the next few years. In an 9 year old Taurus, I doubt it.

It's not worth it to me either, but if you factor in the entertainment value of jamming one cop, suddenly it is worth it after all.

**RadarFanatic86** · 07-21-2008, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

That's okay. Doesn't really matter since those tests are a year old, and none of the jammers tested are the currently available production models. The new SML tests are due out any day now, and GOL are supposed to be testing again sometime between now and the end of the millennium. You might want to wait for more up to date info.

The Blinders are IR LED based jammers, whereas the LI and others utilise laser diodes to transmit their signal. Theoretically, at least, the diode jammers work more efficiently, but they are twice as expensive too. Latest reports are that the newer version Blinder M25 (J15) is a significant improvement and has performance rivalling the diode jammers. That has yet to be determined by GOL or SML yet though. I just got mine, so I haven't had a chance to test it yet, but it's one of the few choices under $500 dollars. As always, you really have to ask yourself if the investment is actually worth it, calculated against the probability of you actually getting over $500 dollars worth of laser speeding tickets in the next few years. In an 9 year old Taurus, I doubt it.

It's not worth it to me either, but if you factor in the entertainment value of jamming one cop, suddenly it is worth it after all.

maybe, maybe not, but my taurus has tinted windows, a spoiler, and it droped down low, i have a friend who owns a car shop, he did all these for me for a good price, and not only that iam getting black rims, and i might consider painting my car black. So you see my car looks sporty even thoug it is a ford taurus.

**maty j** · 07-22-2008, 04:11 AM

Even more reason to not get a jammer if it looks sporty then the cops would be forever pulling you over here, I can't speak about the US. There's always the parking sensor option such as LI or LPP but they are more expensive.

**kw79** · 07-22-2008, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

As always, you really have to ask yourself if the investment is actually worth it, calculated against the probability of you actually getting over $500 dollars worth of laser speeding tickets in the next few years. In an 9 year old Taurus, I doubt it.

It's not worth it to me either, but if you factor in the entertainment value of jamming one cop, suddenly it is worth it after all.

Even if he got 1 laser ticket though, between the ticket and the increased insurance costs, the $500 jammer will be worth it.

I only have 1 laser ticket. Ticket price is $330. With the increase I'll get on my insurance, it will definitely be much >$500 (especially since my insurance rate will be increased for 3 years).

**RadarFanatic86** · 07-22-2008, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by kw79

Even if he got 1 laser ticket though, between the ticket and the increased insurance costs, the $500 jammer will be worth it.

I only have 1 laser ticket. Ticket price is $330. With the increase I'll get on my insurance, it will definitely be much >$500 (especially since my insurance rate will be increased for 3 years).

does laser and radar ticket differ,

**kw79** · 07-22-2008, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by RadarFanatic86

does laser and radar ticket differ,

Nope. Same fine no matter what they used. This was in MA and it is $100 base ticket and $10 per MPH over the limit.

**TSi+WRX** · 07-22-2008, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Stealth Stalker

The Blinders are IR LED based jammers, whereas the LI and others utilise laser diodes to transmit their signal.

Don't forget that the Escort ZR3 and ZR4 are also both LED-based jammers, not laser-diode based.

86 -

The numbers are "punchthrough" ("PT") distances.

If you can think of the laser jammer's output as being a sci-fi "force field," PT is where the incoming police laser beam "punches through" your shield, and allows the laser to lock on to your car.

Read the "Understanding the Results" section a bit more in-detail, and you'll see what it means.

A lot of different factors can affect PT, though. It's not just the jammer's inherent capabilities, although, undeniably, that does have a large part to do with it. With this test, the GOL tried to control for as many of those other external (as well as internal/systematic) factors as possible, but in the real-world, there will be other issues at-play.

Note that there is a hypertext link, at the base of each "percentage effectiveness" computations, that explains how they did what they did there, and why:

http://www.guysoflidar.com/march-2007/percent.html

IMveryHO, you should look to understand how this was calculate, as well as debate with yourself as to whether or not this is a valid measure, as-interpreted via the raw data.

**category4** · 07-22-2008, 01:24 PM

I put the Blinder M25 with the new J15 version heads on my Vette. I was pleasantly surprised with how it performed this past weekend at the Atlanta area testing event. I like you did not want to spend a lot of $ as the # of times I get hit with laser does not make it economically feasible. But I must say it is a whole lot of fun.

The numbers from last weekends event should be out soon and maybe that will help you make up your mind. I'm sure everyone will have their opinions of the numbers once they are officially posted.

**Stealth Stalker** · 07-22-2008, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by kw79

Even if he got 1 laser ticket though, between the ticket and the increased insurance costs, the $500 jammer will be worth it.

I only have 1 laser ticket. Ticket price is $330. With the increase I'll get on my insurance, it will definitely be much >$500 (especially since my insurance rate will be increased for 3 years).

Who are all these people who actually pay speeding tickets and let them go on their records? Only a chump would do that. Take it to a lawyer. You may end up paying it, but it won't go on your record.