# Thread: Particle or wave theory

1. ## Particle or wave theory

Anyone here have knowledge or proof of which theory is used to sample the pulses from the gun??? Going back to physics class I remember the teacher talking about both theories. This could explain why the false readings occur. Open question let hear what ya think.

2. Originally Posted by Reflections
Anyone here have knowledge or proof of which theory is used to sample the pulses from the gun??? Going back to physics class I remember the teacher talking about both theories. This could explain why the false readings occur. Open question let hear what ya think.

"This could explain why the false readings occur."

BTW, Reflections would make MEM-TEK seem reasonable

3. Light functions as both a wave and a particle. It is a wavicle.

4. Originally Posted by Loiosh
Light functions as both a wave and a particle. It is a wavicle.
I know that but what is the gun counting on to get the reading, the wave return or the particle??

5. The gun relies on a photocell / photodiode. It doesn't care how the photocell / photodiode works, just its specs.

So all in all, the question is totally irrelevant, even for gun / jammer designers.

Now the photocell / photodiode itself can be more easily explained using particles / photons, but in general, you can come up with explanations either way.

Waveâ€“particle duality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

6. Originally Posted by Reflections
Anyone here have knowledge or proof of which theory is used to sample the pulses from the gun??? Going back to physics class I remember the teacher talking about both theories. This could explain why the false readings occur. Open question let hear what ya think.
Well... you've got to look at it from the "event's" point of view.

When you fire a single photon, it doesn't care if it's a wave or a particle, it is just an event with a source. This event doesn't understand about our 3D view of things, it just knows "out". It's only when it clobbers something that its probability collapses to become a (well almost) certainty. The area of it's uncertain state (the area face of that by a quarter equation thingy) still shows up too as "nothings"

So after a bit, you get a wave pattern.

Or it could all be magic...Policeman shines special torchy at you, you shine special torchy back, nice policeman covers his eyes for 8 seconds.

Then he realises you're a black bloke in a flash car and nails your m***** ****in a\$\$ to the wall anyway.

7. WAY tooooooo complicated.

LIDAR shines a light.
Its pulses of light at a certain pulse rate.

The Rx lens is looking for the reflection or refraction of those pulses.

No returns, no data.

-Suf

Originally Posted by Reflections
I know that but what is the gun counting on to get the reading, the wave return or the particle??

8. The laser gun uses analog return signal reception and then converts the received signal to digital. By nature of detecting millions of returned IR photons at once, the analog signal reception portion of the circuitry sees only the wave nature of the IR radiation.

9. Originally Posted by MEM-TEK
The laser gun uses analog return signal reception and then converts the received signal to digital. By nature of detecting millions of returned IR photons at once, the analog signal reception portion of the circuitry sees only the wave nature of the IR radiation.
In reality the detectors operate photon by photon to create hole electron pairs. The sum total of all these individual photon, hole, electron interactions create the signal produced by the detector.

10. Originally Posted by ronsc1985
Originally Posted by MEM-TEK
The laser gun uses analog return signal reception and then converts the received signal to digital. By nature of detecting millions of returned IR photons at once, the analog signal reception portion of the circuitry sees only the wave nature of the IR radiation.
In reality the detectors operate photon by photon to create hole electron pairs. The sum total of all these individual photon, hole, electron interactions create the signal produced by the detector.
Stop questioning MEM-TEK Why can't you understand that "the analog signal reception portion of the circuitry sees only the [330 Terrahertz!!] wave nature of the IR radiation"? Haven't you seen a 100s of Terrahertz analog circuit before?

The prof put it best:
Originally Posted by jimbonzzz
Asking MEM-TEK to stop spreading nonsense is like asking a leopard to change it's spots. The most you can really hope for is that he'll move on to some different nonsense
BTW, MEM-TEK, we all love you

On a different thought, I hereby nominate this thread for the most stupid question of the year award. 100% of credits go to Reflections

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