Thinking about adding more???

**muledoe1** · 07-26-2008, 03:34 PM

Ok well, i have a quad head LI set up right now. My main concern is with my rear, and a little with my front. In test that i have done, my rear is very weak and allows PT, an front allows PT around a 60ft range. Well, my idea is to either buy a dual LI set up (1 more) and add 1 more head to the front and 1 more to the rear. My only problem is, i have NO room in the rear for a head, and the front im sure i can find room, but my main concern is no center mass but more of a high aim, say about head liner and my rear window. My question i guess is, if i did a 2 head set up, and i put them right on the window facing out how well will they work with jamming?

Cliff, im looking for some advice with this, im looking to go very stealth and no PT what so ever at any range lol, even 60. Even if that means i need 1 more quad set up if somehow i can arange my heads so that my whole front and rear are all covered.

Like i said before front i can work with, rear, no so much. But when we did test, my PT at close range were headliner area, so that why i ask if i put a single head right were my RV mirror is and close as i can to the window as i can get. ??

**ELVATO** · 07-26-2008, 04:09 PM

You should only really need 2 heads up front, and 2 in the back to get JTG/JFG, if not pretty damn close.

BTW, 60 feet is practically JTG in my book. Do you have a picture of your setup?

**hockey005** · 07-26-2008, 08:50 PM

yea lets see some pics

**focalcivic** · 07-27-2008, 02:26 AM

I might try Veil G4 on the Headlights and talilights and retest, much cheaper solution.

**TSi+WRX** · 07-27-2008, 08:07 AM

I'm guessing that this is a setup/aiming (including "maintenance" of aim and head-cleaning) issue, too.

Both in terms of physical size as well as hardpoint profile, I honestly don't see a reason for your vehicle not to achieve true-JTG......

**muledoe1** · 07-27-2008, 01:40 PM

Honestly i dont wanna go with viel, i want something that is stopping power, like the LI jammer.

Also wtih aim'ing its all fine. Ill get some pictures up and measurement on how far apart and stuff they are. Main problem with the rear is have no room to spread them anymore out, and with the front, at a 60ft range anything near the headliner will get a PT, i dont want that. Most cops here are very sneaky at night and its even hard to see them at that close range, and they will tag you.

I want JTG at all cost, no 60ft, 50, 40, 30, 20 PT at all.

**Laser-InterceptorUSA** · 07-27-2008, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by muledoe1

Ok well, i have a quad head LI set up right now. My main concern is with my rear, and a little with my front. In test that i have done, my rear is very weak and allows PT, an front allows PT around a 60ft range. Well, my idea is to either buy a dual LI set up (1 more) and add 1 more head to the front and 1 more to the rear. My only problem is, i have NO room in the rear for a head, and the front im sure i can find room, but my main concern is no center mass but more of a high aim, say about head liner and my rear window. My question i guess is, if i did a 2 head set up, and i put them right on the window facing out how well will they work with jamming?

Cliff, im looking for some advice with this, im looking to go very stealth and no PT what so ever at any range lol, even 60. Even if that means i need 1 more quad set up if somehow i can arange my heads so that my whole front and rear are all covered.

Like i said before front i can work with, rear, no so much. But when we did test, my PT at close range were headliner area, so that why i ask if i put a single head right were my RV mirror is and close as i can to the window as i can get. ??

I will need more data about your set-up, PICS, installation positions, etc. before we can determine if there is an issue. Quite frankly, 60 ft. PT is very acceptable albeit NOT to you! We will be more than happy to sell you an additional LI but if we can accomplish the same without doing so and merely by working with your current set-up by tweaking it, this is a far more reasonable and realistic approach! Today for instance, we had a similar situation while testing an install and after a minor placement adjustment of a rear LI install, we went from 100 ft. PT to JTG without the need for additional sensors. Even a simple change as moving the bubble from inside to outside may be the difference needed as some cars shape dictates thinking outside the box when it comes to one's traditional thinking install.

Cliff - C55

**ELVATO** · 07-27-2008, 05:00 PM

By headliner, do you mean the roof?

**muledoe1** · 07-28-2008, 01:51 AM

Yeah, i roof when i said headliner sorry.

I know that 60pt are normal at that close of a range, but at some post even changing the setup wont ment make that much of a difference cause the laser will hit a part of the car that wont get covered closer up. Im mainly looking for stealth at all cost.

Today i was on the free way and a state was shooting oncoming cars, my LI didnt go off at all. What he did was he was hidden so well cause its was traffic and by the time you seen him, you would of been caught. Im thinking that maybe the LI didnt go off cause he was aim'ing at my right headlight and the LI didnt pick it up.

Like i said before if i did get more heads, i wont have any place to put them, so has anyone actually tested the theory of putting the heads inside behind the glass like i said i was thinking about??

Well here are the pics, let me know thanks

**Tambourine-Man** · 07-28-2008, 05:54 AM

I have very littel experience getting hit by laser - all of it yesterday (about 6 runsagainst 4 different guns and then one actual encounter with a statie running Laser Atlanta). The thing that made the most impression was woo much earlier my V1 alerted than the LI announced the gun. Now that may be due to the delay in processing the signal to determine which type gun it was and the slowness of text to speech processing. It is much faster just to detect any kind of laser than it is to figure out the pulse rate etc. However since numerous tests have confirmed the LI jams the laser, the blocking pulses must be fast enough to do the job. The verbal announcement just comes after the fact. I don't have wits to once the V1 goes off to look at the kill switch to see if the light on it is blinking - that might be faster (if the light is set to announce a hit - I don't even know if it works that way).

But my point is unless you are sure the LEO is continuing to point the gun at you and hasn't moved on to some other target, the fact that you LI does not go off, may not mean it is not working.