Which jammer for Audi A6 w/ 8500 x50

[ratherbflyn]

Hey guys, this is my first real post here. I've been searching for advice and see that LI is recommended by a number of people, but I'm having a tough time spending that kind of money. I've also seen the blinder and laser mask recommendend as budget systems.

So just looking for advice specific to my car and installation. I have an '99 Audi A6 with front plate and been running a ZR3 for the last 5 years which I've had hooked up through an Escort 8500 (now x50). I really like this clean set up. The only thing visible is the 8500 mounted up by my rearview and the jammer defeat button on my dash by the speedo. It seemed to work fine and gave me enough time to slow down and turn off the jammer. I rarely go over 85 mph.

Lately the ZR3's been giving me regular alerts once per minute after it's been powered up for about 10min. I was going to send it in for repair or replace it with a ZR4 until I started browsing this site.

I've attached a photo of what my front grill looks like (my car is red, but it wasn't around for me to photo). The yellow retangles are where the ZR3 sensors are installed...this is where they fit easiest w/o cutting my grill. I also have the rear lic. plate mounted sensor. I've only run across one speed trap where they were shooting from the rear, but it does happen.

I live OR and another post on this site indicates the following detectors are used in my area: Stalker, LTI Marksman 20/20, LTI Ultralyte, Pro Laser II, Pro Laser III, Prolite. Some other info of note: I have headlight washers, so veil G4 coating doesn't work very well, but I plan to use it on my lic plate covers, fog lights and maybe the chrome rim and Audi rings on my grill.

So which system do you recommend? Any suggestion on sensor placement would be greatly appreciated as well. I've attach photos showing examples of my audi's front and rear design. Thanks in advance for any input.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

Well the Escort zr4 or zr3 is out of the question because the Stalker LZ1 is a threat to you and those jammers are horrible against that gun unless you use VEIL. But if you want to continue the set-up you have then you can purchase another Zr3 they are only $250 now as Escort is trying to clear their inventory

Personally I would recommend the Laser Interceptor since VEIL is out of the question for you.

I have yet to see an LED jammer perform well WITHOUT veil.

[speed-dreams]

A ZR3 with veil and no front plate will get you JTG performance against the UL and TS... This is based on a testing done on an A4 similar front end to yours... but the Stalker would make any ZR3 sh1ets its pants... If you don't want veil, go with a more powerful jammer like the LI

[ratherbflyn]

Thanks for the quick response guys.

I forgot to mention I have HID low beams and halogen high beams. I routinely keep my low beams on regardless of time of day. So a couple questions in that regard...if I can find headlight covers and veil them will that help? Will veil do much to headlight brightness? I've also read mixed reviews on whether or not HID lights inhibit laser somewhat when turned on...any experience there?

[Stealth Stalker]

I second the LI recommendation on this particular car, since Veil is only a reluctant option. This new revelation about headlight washers being a problem for Veil changes many recommendations. You could do a Blinder M45 with similar results, but about the same cost and a more complicated install.

The lowest level of the grille, as widely spaced as possible, would be the preferred LI head locations.

The whole HID effect thing is quite variable, and is nothing to be considered when adding up your defences. If you get a little boost from them, great. It's a bonus. But again, don't count on it because it is not consistent.

[ratherbflyn]

I was afraid you'd all say that. OK, guess I'll have to save for the LI. Stalker, you mean the lowest part of the upper grill?

[Stealth Stalker]

Stalker, you mean the lowest part of the upper grill?

Yes, the main grille with the Audi rings. The lowest slit before the bumper. That seems to be the best place to get close to your headlights without sacrificing any plate coverage.

[ratherbflyn]

OK, thanks guys. So next question is which LI system? Are you guys referring to the HP system or regular system? I would probably go for a quad system since I want the back covered. In that respect, there is really no place but the lic plate area conducive to mounting...I'd have to cut sheet metal any other place.

[Stealth Stalker]

Well, I am a firm believer in the theory that there is no such thing as overkill in the countermeasures game. But the regular Quad system would do just fine for you, so long as the install is good.

As for the rear heads, it's hard to tell from the photos, but it looks like the slim heads (standard for the rear) would either mount directly to that chrome strip at the bottom of the trunk lid (requiring a little minor metal work, probably best left to a good install shop), or else mounted to flat brackets that slip between the bumper and trunk lid, basically setting them on top of the bumper. Either way is a little more exposed than a plate mount, but the performance is much better, and they can be stealthed with some colour matching tape (red or chrome) to be hardly noticeable.

I know that nobody wants to go to that hassle when it is so easy to just mount them around the plate. I had to learn the hard way myself. But if you don't, you'll get rude punch-through on your tail lights.

[crazyVOLVOrob]

OK, thanks guys. So next question is which LI system? Are you guys referring to the HP system or regular system? I would probably go for a quad system since I want the back covered. In that respect, there is really no place but the lic plate area conducive to mounting...I'd have to cut sheet metal any other place.

We are refering to the Regular system the HP is meant for putting 2 heads on the front and rear on a F350 pickup

A regular LI will suit you just fine with 2 heads front and back

Here are your options
A- Being the best one


B) second best and involves some frabrication