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    Default Realistic PT Distances

    Hi everyone. I just wanted to get input on realistic PT distances and what they mean for the average driver. I know that LIs will JTG most of the time and that many times Blinders will get a PT eventually.

    What I want to know is what PT distances you think are enough to get the speed in check before the LEO gets a reading. Obviously its cool to say your jammers can JTG, but JTG really isn't necessary in "real life" situations where you may encounter laser, and most of the time is just plain dumb to run your jammers until you are past the LEO. Assuming you are PSL +10 you only need a couple seconds to slow down.

    Do Blinders give you enough time? And do LIs in the case of guns it doesn't jam as well?

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    Default Re: Realistic PT Distances

    What you need to keep in mind as you consider your required punch through distances, is the type of enforcement you encounter, tactics used, and normal driving circumstances. It only takes me 3 to 4 seconds to slow down and kill ma jammers during an encounter.

    What matters is not just how long you have, but rather at what distance the encounter began. There are a lot of people in here that are rarely painted over 500 feet, while others (like myself) are rarely painted under 500 feet. Lets just say that your setup gets PT around 300 feet with a gun commonly used in your area. If you are usually painted on the highway, at further distances (>500), you will pretty much always have enough time to slow down. If you local LEOs prefer to engage in ambush style traps at 500 feet, you have 2 seconds to JTK or you get a ticket. I have seen video of toll booth traps where nothing less than JTG performance would save the driver on the receiving end of the Lidar shot.

    In essence, it isn't just time that you need, you need distance. What I personally consider acceptable is under maybe 200 feet. That said, I still hope to get much closer to, if not JTG performance. At 200 feet though, you should already have seen the officer and slowed down. It would seem extremely rare for an encounter to begin at that distance, but you just never know. Just to be on the safe side though, it's a good idea not so haul through the toll booth, since that sets you up for a close encounter with laser or radar.

    Ultimately, this is just as much of a question of risk tolerance as it is anything else. How often are you expecting to be way above the PSL when there are great hiding places for close encounters? Do you often speed on roads with lots of cover for Lidar wielding LEOs? Do you seldom venture beyond the 'maybe he'll cite me, maybe he won't' zone? How heavily is laser used in areas where you drive? Do you pile on lots of miles on the highway, or just drive a mile or two a day? The answer is different for everyone.

    I like to look at it as if I will be doing 90 when I get painted. At that speed, I would be traveling at 132 feet per second and need 3.5 seconds to JTK (bare minimum). That means I will need 462 feet to get down to PSL. If I'm seeing PTs over 250 feet, then the encounter must begin at or above 712 feet or I lose. This is why people around here are such sticklers about JTG performance.

    So far, my Blinders have been testing with JTG performance, but my testing so far does not include the Lase Atlanta, which some Blinder setups struggle with. Even if I wouldn't flinch at a <200 foot punch through with one or two guns, I try to do everything I can do to get JTG. No matter what jammer you chose, make it the best setup you possibly can. After that you can focus on all the other ways you can get a speeding ticket.

    PS: The ugly Veil job on my Cobalt doesn't give up PT over 530 feet with the jammers off

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    Default Re: Realistic PT Distances

    Thanks for the info! The laser I have encountered in the city is typically ~500ft away. I haven't been hit with any sneaky traps yet. If I am speeding, I am usually only 5 over PSL in the city because any faster IMO is dangerous with bikers, pedestrians, kids running around. If it is a huge open stretch in a non-residential area without much traffic I may be 10 over PSL. I'm never speeding real fast in town, so I think I would be good with those PT numbers, especially if I only have to slow down 5mph or so. Since they shoot at longer distances on the highway, I think I would be good there as well.

    I don't think I will ever live that VEIL thing down As far as the VEIL, I am trying to avoid that like the plague I really like the clean look on my car now, and I don't want to screw it up if the VEIL doesn't look 100&#37;. Again, I am by no means knocking your ride, you do have a really sweet setup!

    Do you have the M27 or M47 on your Cobalt?

    Does anyone else have input on punch through numbers?
    Last edited by Stealth Stalker; 05-24-2011 at 10:40 PM.

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    Default Re: Realistic PT Distances

    AT those speeds you usually wouldn't have much to worry about with no jammers at all. On surface streets, I have the same kind of driving habits, PSL +5 if anything. On the highways it's a whole different story. Close up encounters on the highway have been rare at best for me. My best guess is a little PT isn't the end of the world world you. Even with the jammers, there is a chance of tickets by other means (IO radar, pace, in some areas VASCAR). All one can hope to do is tilt the odds in their favor.

    Don't worry about the Veil thing. I couldn't care less about appearances as long as things are working well. I have an M47 with 2 heads up front and 2 on the rear bumper. Between the Blinders, CB antenna, Veil, and bra, the car is starting to look kind of weird. Perhaps kind of weapon like. I don't mind though, it makes it easy to find my car when I park at the mall.

    As for Viel, if testing reveals that your are in need, it can be airbrushed for a very factory look. Some members have done it and it came out very nice, but that a little more work than I'm willing to spend on it. I'll stop pushing Veil on you though. If that's a no no for you, there's nothing wrong with that.
    Last edited by Stealth Stalker; 05-24-2011 at 10:41 PM.

 

 

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