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    Default Stealth Mode Discontinued?

    After reading this report and hearing about this a few months ago is it true that Stealth Mode for Laser's Atlanta Speedlaser is being discontinued? I wonder why?

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    Stealth mode is a standard feature on the S and R type Speed Laser. I have contacted Laser Atlanta about this rumor and they told me they weren't discontinuing it. Too bad :-(

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    JTW, is correct, I believe.

    The LA SM is, in fact, not being discontinued. I don't understand where that came from.

    As I understand it, SM was created for the EU market, from where the request apparently came.

    Personally, I think the LA has some of the greatest LR capabilities of all of the other guns including the Riegl and Laveg units.

    Its a bit bigger than the other ones (which apparently is somewhat resolved by the smaller S model that JTW is getting his hands on) but its sheer performance is incredible.

    Couple that with the Stealth Mode which, again as I understand it, was really designed to defeat radar detectors [even more than] jammers and you really have a lethal combination.

    It truly is an engineering marvel.

    Fortunately, for VEIL though, we tend to do well with this advanced mode where some other jammers have not.

    The Pro III and Stalker LZ1 guns are much lighter and easier to handle "casually" and this may account for some of the popularity with police departments.

    I spoke to CF today and he confirmed that at the time of his writings that the SM was not approved by the IACP. This may have changed since his publications [as I suspected] and this may simply be a timing issue.

    I tried reaching Jack at x215, but missed him today. Will try again.

    The other gun mentioned from Germany, I have not seen or used so I can't comment on it.

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    I'll take some pictures to show you guys how small the S type is tomorrow(If UPS express comes in the morning). I have used ever single lidar gun in current production and I have to say hands down that my favorite gun is either the ProLaser 3 or the Laser Atlanta. The ProLaser 3 acquires a speed much faster then any gun I've seen. The industry rumor is that ProLaser's have terrible error trapping and that is why it gets a speed faster. Luckily it's the easiest gun to jam!!! Hhehehehehe.

    I can't tell you which lidar company told me this because it's supposed to be an industry dirty secret, but someone in the lidar gun sales industry told me the "Laser Patrol" by Jenoptic is the best lidar gun of all time. Leon at Blinder has this gun I think. What are your thoughts on it Blinder Dude?

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    Oh, and I must concur with Veil Guy on the anti-detection feature of Stealth mode. With my older demo unit stealth mode R type I shot my escort 8500 X50 and it didn't detect it. Escort has confirmed with me they are aware of the situation and are working on the problem. The engineer I talked to said they hope to have the fix on the ZR3 and other detectors by November. Just in time for Christmas.

    I also called up Valentine one and asked them what they were doing about stealth mode and they didn't confirm or deny that had a problem with it.

    I called up PNI and talked with this guy that obviously had no clue what he was talking about. When I mentioned "Laser Atlanta" he thought it was a radar gun. uuuummmm yaaaaaa...so how about I talk to your engineer guy. PNI's engineer was not available to comment.

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    Laser Patrol (Jenoptic), also known as Traffipatrol, StarLaser, MestaLaser is the smalles lidar I have seen. But its reception is not that great. When new its range is at most 450m. When droped once or twice (Ive seen one unit that local sheriff in my town uses) its range drops to 200m max, the sighting optics regulary go out of aligment and there is no aligning screw on it to tune it back, you have to send it to the factory. So cop has to be familiarized with the angle that sight is falsing to compensate while targeting.
    Good side would be infamous E14 JAMMED detection. It has very complex error traping algorithm that easily detects almost every jammer. In most of EU laser jamming is forbiden if intentional ( ).
    If I were to choose best lidar for cops I would chose PL3 or LA.

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    JTW, is right on about the Pro III.

    This gun does indeed run fast and loose with error trapping and can get readings quickly. Gievn its packaging (light) and that it works similarly to a radar gun (in terms of getting readings easily even when hand-held) may account for its popularity with departments comfortable with radar guns.

    The Laveg unit is without a doubt the superior gun with its optics. It interesting to hear antilaser's comments about the optic geometry.

    Of the european guns, I have operated, I think I prefer the Riegl LR90.

    It operates like many US guns and has (in my opinion) superior jamming codes/tones that clearly indicate that its being screwd with jammers.

    I am happy to report that VEIL did not generate any jamming codes and/or tones on any of the guns tested (US and European).

    This should bode well for our solutions in Europe where officials seem to be uptight about [active] countermeasures.

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