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    Default Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    I drive a Yellow C6 Corvette, with an Escort 9500ix. I also live in an area where Laser Jammers are illegal, but a petty, secondary offense.

    Because prices are very low, and it will integrate nicely with the 9500ix, I've picked up an escort ZR3.

    As jammers are a secondary offense where I live, you can't be pulled over just on suspicion of one. I also plan on shutting it down with the mute button after I quickly get down to speed (not going to JTG) to give a reading. It does worry me that the rear jammer will stick out like crazy on a body colored license plate of my Velocity Yellow vette.

    So, I'm looking for some advice. Should I install the rear jammer, or will it be more stealthy not to (and not give an officer who pulls me over immediate suspicion).

    Are 2 ZR3 jammers on the front alone sufficient for a C6 corvette? Should I install the rear Jammer up front (if so any tips on where)?

    Would I be better off to just run the 2 jammers upfront and Veil the headlights (than running 3 up front), or should I run all 3 up front AND Veil. I'm not really sure I like the appearance of Veil on the Yellow C6. What's going to give solid (adequate) protection, and raise the least suspicion? What real risk do I run not running anything aft, and is the ZR3 pretty poor on that anyways on a C6 (possibly with a Veiled rear plate).

    I should also add that I'm not running a front plate either (required in my state but I choose not to).

    Thanks in advance for any advice y'all have.
    Last edited by velcro; 09-22-2009 at 03:41 PM.

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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    Put all 3 heads up front. ZR3s can be effective on Veiled out black Vettes but yellow isn't the best color for laser stealth so I honestly can't say how they would do.

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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by velcro View Post
    Are 2 ZR3 jammers on the front alone sufficient for a C6 corvette? Should I install the rear Jammer up front (if so any tips on where)?
    ZR3s on that car will be nothing more than a false sense of security, which is worse than no jammer at all.

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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    Here is the results of the ZR3 on a C6 corvette
    -Chevy C6 Corvette
    -Escort ZR3 (2 heads up front, rear head on top of rear plate)
    -No front plate
    -State Issued plate on rear


    LTI Ultralyte (125pps)
    FRONT
    -1000ft (45mph) and 267ft (18mph) on Driver-Side Headlight,
    -JTG elsewhere
    REAR
    -300ft (14mph) Driver-Side Taillight,
    -JFG after

    LTI TruSpeed (200.3pps)
    FRONT
    -800ft (38mph) on Passenger-Side Headlight,
    -JTG all over after
    REAR
    -75ft, and 1800ft(38mph). On Passenger Taillights

    Laser Atlanta Normal Mode (238pps)
    FRONT
    -363ft (20mph) on Driver-side Headlight,
    -JTG Center-mass and Passenger-side headlight
    REAR
    -JFG on Center-Mass,
    -Consistent punchthrough 200ft-800ft aiming at either taillight after JFG


    Stalker LZ1
    FRONT
    -272ft on Center-Mass, JTG after
    -341ft on Passenger-Headlight
    -483ft, 771ft, and 1071ft (42mph) on Driver-Side Taillight
    REAR
    -150ft(4mph) Center-Mass
    -685ft (40mph), 983ft(40mph), 1240ft (40mph) and 1800ft (40mph) on Driver-Side Taillight

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    Laser Jammer-Laser Interceptor Quad
    GPS Camera Locator-Cheetah C100
    GPS Nav-Garmin nuvi w/Trapster
    CB Radio-Galaxy DX-949 w/Wilson 500
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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyVOLVOrob View Post
    Here is the results of the ZR3 on a C6 corvette
    ^ And based on that, I'd say to install the rear head front-and-center - but be sure to also displace the two front heads as wide apart as you can, to minimize the possibility of destructive cross-talk interference.

    Truly, get tested, if you can - not only will you then know the absolute strengths and weaknesses of your setup, but also, more importantly, you'll see if the unconventional setup, combined with the limited space you have in that area, will cause interference that would negatively impact performance.

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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    Hey that was my car that was tested with the ZR3s. Thanks for bringing that info over to this thread Rob!

    Keep in mind I wasn't using a front plate, if I was I think I would have been totally owned at first shot. The passenger side head was actually a little crooked too. I was surprised with how well it did with all things considered, I had very low expectations for it as well. Keep in mind I think the distance of first targeting the front was 2200 feet or something like that. I was going 30-40 mph so I did have some good warning time if it were a real encounter. That system saved my ass twice going about 25-35 over PSL in the six months it was on the car.

    I have since put on an LI since I wasn't confident in the ZR3's ability to jam in all situations.

    I also decided to switch because I just wasn't 100% happy with the radar performance of the SRX in my car, the antenna was just too low to be effective. When it was on the car I had previously, the antenna was much higher and gave much better performance.

    You can see what I'm running now in my signature, no complaints here!

    I'm actually going up to NH to test the LI's tonight. (they are spaced a good amount wider than the ZR3s pictured)

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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    From what I have seen of the ZR3's, you need to get them as close to the headlights as possible for best results.
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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    Thanks for the tips everyone, I know the ZR3 is somewhat sucky, but it's a start (and the cost couldn't be beat.

    I know I need to add something to beef it up on the front. I still am torn as to whether the best bang adding is 3rd head up front, Veil (on lights and fogs), or both. Does the third head add a lot alone, or am I better with just 2 and Veil.

    Stalker I hear you on the false sense of security, and I'm looking to keep a rabbit out front most times, but cut down on my risks when running alone (or get the itch to get on it).

    cat 4, I can see myself growing into the LI 4 setup, that's probably where I'm headed someday.

    I'm leaning to push the 2 front heads as wide as I can in the grill, rear in the center, and holding off on the Veil for now.

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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    Just put the three heads up front. Mine did decent with just two. Really close shots to the headlights would have been a problem for it though. Although veil is really good stuff I would hesitate putting it on the corvette headlights for one reason, crazing. Any alcohol based product or cleaner tends to make the corvette headlights develop fine crazing and eventually worse and deeper crazing. The headlight assemblies are about 1k each to replace. Go do some searching on the corvette forum on this. A lot of guys think it is from heat but that simply is not the case, especially with a projector HID. Make sure you don't have a front plate on, do a good install of the ZR3 for now and it should give you some level of protection based on how my car did. But save for the LI or blinder. I just tested my LI tonight and it was JTG all the way on my C6 against a PLII.

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    Default Re: Advice on placement, Veil with a ZR3 on a C6 Vette

    Quote Originally Posted by velcro View Post
    Does the third head add a lot alone, or am I better with just 2 and Veil.
    Well, it's not doing you any good on the rear, so you might as well stick it up front. However no, I wouldn't expect it to make much difference at all. Center mass is probably not going to be your problem, so a center head shouldn't be the solution. However, a center head should at least make you feel better about putting your lateral heads as widely spaced as you can possibly get them.

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