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    Default OK, I called escort c/s and really didn't get any answers.

    Maybe somebody here knows.

    Today while driving down the road, my rear sensor picked up detection but no visual police, so I attributed it to the Infinity FX behind me. Because curiosity kills the cat, I turned aroung to make sure there were no officers hiding in the trees and radioing ahead, and I saw none.

    So on to my question:

    Is the ZR3, Blinder and so on like the V-1 where the LED's from other vehicles will set off an alert?

    I haven't had any problems from the front the sensors sit pretty low, but the rear attack appeared to be bogus.

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    Default False Alert

    Yes, it could had been an LED light or another device that set if off. My shifters alert a couple times a month to a false, the blinders only have alerted to the real thing
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    The Bliner and Zr3 only alert real laser threats :? but the laser sensitivity of the V1 is so high that it is set off by LEDs

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    You called Belscort Customer Service and didn't get any answers
    Just pre rehearsed BS.
    Shocking........

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    Default ALERT??

    No laser jammers do more then alert, it jams.

    No matter what type of detector you have, chances are "your got when you are shot" unless you have another counter measure such as Veil or a laser jammer
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    according to mike he said that only neon affects laser not l.e.d......

    here what mike posted this on 6speedforum...................


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    Originally posted by LSM
    My Z8 has LED rear lights and sets off Shank's V1 so incesantly that it needs to be turned off. This is a real problem especially with more and more manufacturers going with LED lights. There is no fix at all in the forseeable future??

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    The Z8 actually has neon (not LED) lighting. AFAIK, there have never been any reported problems with LED tail lamp or CHMSL interference with a V1. LED lamp photon output is very slow rise-time (~100 microseconds) compared to a laser-gun pulse (a few nanoseconds) and is easily filtered out in V1's processing circuitry. And, more importantly, the spectral content of visible LED lamps has zero near-infrared spectral content. No near-IR, ... no interference! For these reasons, LED lamps are my favorite new technology for stop, turn and CHMSL lighting.

    The neon interference comes from the fact that neon plasma has light emmission spectral output in the near-infrared region as well as in visible wavelengths. Red color filters for neon tubes readily pass the near-infrared output as well as the red visible light. Yellow colored neon lamps have a phosphor coating that blocks the near-IR output from them.

    And, the typical ignition source for neon is some sort of high-voltage pulsating power supply. The rise-time of the photon output is very fast (~10 nanoseconds), which easily mimics a laser-gun pulse.

    So, LED use is growing and that is a good thing. Neon use seems to be waning, but it is already on the road in annoying numbers. We don't have a fix today, but it may be possible in the next few years.

    he also posted this.............


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    Originally posted by ebaker
    I wonder if a neon light on the front of a car might "confuse" a laser gun?
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    Probably not.

    Laser guns use very narrow bandwidth infrared optical filters to reject "daylight noise" from the sun. They also reject a large portion of potential noise from vehicle headlights.

    Unfortunatly, neon does not have much spectral energy on exactly the 904 nanometer wavelength used by the laser gun optics. I assume that neon jamming of the laser gun would be largely ineffective because virtually none of its infrared output would travel the past the optical filter.

    We can't use that same optical filtering to reject neon CHMSLs(even if we could afford it, which is doubtful) because it only works correctly for an extremely narrow field of view -- less than a few degrees. A laser detector needs a field of view many times greater than the laser gun, so the optically-narrow diffraction grating filters aren't of much use to our side of the war.

    Oh well ...
    Mike

    so there you go........... thats what he says...........

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    I have noticed on 2 occasions that my rear ZR3 jammer picked up laser from cops targeting oncoming traffic on the other side of the road when I passed by them. Both times I was on a big divided highway. The ZR3 rear sensor seems to have a very wide field of view.

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    Default Re: OK, I called escort c/s and really didn't get any answer

    Today while driving down the road, my rear sensor picked up detection but no visual police, so I attributed it to the Infinity FX behind me. Because curiosity kills the cat, I turned aroung to make sure there were no officers hiding in the trees and radioing ahead, and I saw none.
    It's quite common for the ZR3 or the Bel 904/5's rear sensor to false alert.This normally occurs when it is directly hit by the sun .I have tested the rear sensors of the above models and have always picked up speed readings.I think the reason why the makers supply a rear sensor is to have a slight marketing edge over the competition in terms of price.A consumers thinks "hey I am getting 3 sensors where if I buy brand B, I am only getting 2 sensors for the front.I have called BEL CS several times and also spoken to the tech's from there and I get the same bs-oh this is news to us..Its all about marketing -just supplying a dummy unit for the rear to outsell the competition.

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    My rear jammer must of worked one time. Either that or the cop didn't want to come after me. Got hit in on the back MD by a bike cop going about 80 somthing in a 55. Maybe mine works because my car is black and I have Veil on the tail lights?

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    stealthjamal: what do you have to purchase to get the zr3 and a rear unit only?

 

 

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