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Old 08-29-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default NJSP Transition to Ka - Band

Here is .pdf I came across basically by accident from the NJ Transportation Planning Authority.

http://www.njtpa.org/About/Business/...dix_vol_VI.pdf

It lists the new projects for the NJTPA for 2007-2008. On page 130-131 of the document they talk about thier plans to upgrade the radar units for the State Troopers to Ka-band and to make sure that it will be admissable in court.

Below I have pasted the relevant text from the article:


STATE PLANNING AND RESEARCH PROGRAM, 2007 - 2008

ACTIVITY
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Analysis of KA-Band vs X-Band Radar - 4500007/7727

MANAGER:


Edward S. Kondrath

UNIT:


Bureau of Research

PURPOSE:


This project focuses on an integral component of the New Jersey State Police commitment to

highway safety in enforcing posted speed limits. Effective enforcement of speeding statutes requires the
methods employed to measure speed are accurate and state of the art. This requirement is necessary in
order to successfully prosecute by using both moving and stationary radar. The Division currently utilizes
MPH Industries K55 radar unit. This is an X-band radar that has been tried and tested in New Jersey
Courts. With the advent of new technology being introduced to the interior of the Troop vehicles, the lack
of space has become an issue that can no longer be ignored. K55 is a good tool, however it is very large,
and has to be mounted on the dash of the vehicle. This presents the possibility that it can become dislodged
in the event of a motor vehicle crash, and cause subsequent injury to the front seat occupants of the vehicle.

In 1955, the case of State of New Jersey vs. Dantonio, 115 A2d 35, 49 ALR2 d 460, the courts took
judicial notice of police traffic radar operating on the Doppler Principle.

The most recent case dealing with moving radar, specifically K55, (the unit predominantly used by the
Division), is State vs. Wojtkowiak 174 N.J. Super 460 (1980). The courts have taken judicial notice as to
the scientific reliability of the K55 radar. This is predicated on the competent operation of the radar, after
the operator has been trained in its use. (S.O.P. F-20)

The New Jersey State Police have solely used K55 as a speed detection device in the moving mode. Other
stationary means of speed detection have been used, e.g., VASCAR and stop watch speed timing. Both
methods did not employ radar.

New and innovative programs like the introduction of the Ka radar speed detection device enables the
Division of State Police to enhance our speed enforcement program to better serve the motorists who travel
New Jersey’s highways

OBJECTIVES:

The objectives of this study are to:
1.


Examine the state of the art in model development for KA-Band Radar .

2.


Prove or disprove that the new technology (KA-Band Radar) is at the least as reliable as the

current (X-Band Radar).
3.


Identify data deficiencies and statistical validity of alternative approaches.

4.


Develop requirements and standards for KA band radar for all the requirements that are imposed

by the Court system to be accepted as an instrument

TASKS/ACTIONS:

Report progress on quarterly basis

PRODUCTS:



Task 1


: Literature search. This is a more comprehensive and focused search.

Task 2 Collection of Data
Task 3: Analyze Data

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STATE PLANNING AND RESEARCH PROGRAM, 2007 - 2008
ACTIVITY:


Analysis of KA-Band vs X-Band Radar - 4500007/7727

MANAGER:


Edward S. Kondrath

UNIT:


Bureau of Research


PRODUCTS: (Continued)



Task 4.


Prepare in interim report that discusses alternative approaches to model development and

incorporation. Discuss data needs and availability for model calibration and use.



Task 5.


This task shall include documentation of quality control procedures that will be used by the

research team for coding, calibrating and applying models. A technical memorandum will be prepared and
presented to the RSIP.



Task 6. (If appropriate)


The purpose of this task is to implement and calibrate one or more of the proposed

alternative systems. The research team will code approved alternative models, calibrate the parameters and
determine statistical validity. A technical memorandum will be prepared and presented to the RSIP.



Task 7.


The purpose of this task is to ensure that the research project has been properly documented. A

draft final report, based on the technical memoranda prepared in prior tasks, shall be prepared for RSIP
review and comment. The RSIP shall provide comments to the research team, which will prepare a
response to comments document for review and approval of the RSIP. A final report shall be prepared
incorporating all changes needed to resolve the comments.

EXTRAORDINARY ACCOUNTS:

Contractual (36) – (FY 07) $53,000

STAFFING PLAN:


In-house staff time will be charged to Project Management (7021).
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Here's another .pdf detailing thier proposed research process on new Ka-band guns.

http://www.state.nj.us/transportatio...Band_Radar.pdf

I found it humorous that they refer to lidar as "laser-band radar."

Good thing they know what they're researching...
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Default Re: NJSP Transition to Ka - Band

yea i have seen this before...i have witnessed Ka on the NJTP but still the majority is X band on smaller roads...instead of converting to Ka they are moving more towards laser because with the amount of traffic in NJ they need laser
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I wonder if they'll totally get rid of X-Band?
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let them use what ever they want radar is radar but wit new radardetctors coming out we wil benifit the best and stalker radar is nothin new.
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Is the Ka stalker 34.7?
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Whenever I cruise thru NJ, I always turn on Xband, but have never been hit with it. But I have been already hit in NJ by Ka band plenty of times from that Greedy little border town called F$#^ing Mahwah, NJ. Today I was flying down 17 from upstate NY and I couldn't have passed the welcome to NJ sign for about a second and I get a Ka alert of 2 blips on the V1 then it disappeared, I slow down from 70 to about 62(of course the Audi that had been using me as a rabbit for a last 40 miles wasn't to happy) and there he is the Mahwah PD, about a mile down the road using his rear antenna I/O ing. He shot the Audi that passed me but I think he was only going about 67 then shockingly the Leo didn't bother pulling over the Audi, of course he shot me also for being the bright red corvette on a bright sunny day, but I was still holding at 62 .
Now that I think about it every time I have passed thru that town I have always seen the Mahwah PD working that highway like a pimp working his old hoes.

Rant off/ I hope that someday I can cruise thru NJ with my X band off.
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Default Re: NJSP Transition to Ka - Band

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I hope that someday I can cruise thru NJ with my X band off.
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My V1 would be a lot quieter if I could turn off X-band. Unfortunately some of my local departments still use it.
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