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    Hey every body I'm new to the site. I Ride a Yamaha R6 sport bike and I was wondering if there was any way to mount a radar detector that had an alert system that I could integrate into an audible sound in the helmet instead of having to watch the radar detector visual alert

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    On a bike, there's several issues. Space, using with gloves, water, etc.

    There's a few options:

    Whistler Cruisader - made for bikes, though I always thought it fits a little better on the cruises than in a cramped sport bike. Whistler makes a small helmet device that flashes an LED when the detector senses radar. The helmet device is wireless, and not too expensive. From what I understand, the Cruisader does ok against radar, but nothing spectacular.

    TPX - This one is brand new and it looks like they've got their act together as far as making it easy for riders. Weather resistant, easy to use with gloves, small, etc. The TPX also has a wireless LED device for the helmet. The TPX is a little pricier. Those who own it say it performs well against radar, but I don't know how it compares to top of the line radar detectors

    Run your own radar detector and use another method of getting the alert. This way you can use the top of the line Valentine 1, Escorts, and Beltronics detectors.

    H.A.R.D. - This is a wireless LED device for the helmet again. Just like the others, it simply flashes off to the side of your peripheral vision and then you look down at your detector to see what's going on. This is what I use and it works as advertised.

    Vizalert - Another wireless LED device for the helmet. It goes a step further though. It has several LEDs of different colors. So you can tell right away without looking down whether you have a Ka radar, K-band radar, or even laser.

    Audio alerts

    Radar screamer - this is a little alarm speaker that's supposed to be really loud. I met a guy on a CBR1100XX that had one for his Valentine 1, but I should have had him demo it for me. I'm not sure how loud it is, but it's supposed to be loud enough for the rider to hear over the wind. Being that loud, I wonder what it sounds like when you're at a stoplight next to a cop and the radar detector goes off. But they have a thumb switch to turn it down as needed.

    Audio-out jack of the radar detector - the high end radar detectors often have an audio out jack. You can plug in if you want. It's not wireless. I started wearing ER6i audio ear jacks some time ago and love it listening to tunes as I ride. Several people make mixer boxes for bikes. Where you can plug in your MP3 player, your radar detector, your intercom, your GPS, etc. and then listen to what you want. When your radar detector goes off, the mixer automatically gives it priority. Again, it's wired...except for recent high-end mixer boxes that have Bluetooth capabilities.

    I personally run a Bel Vector 955 with a H.A.R.D. system LED for the helmet. I like it a lot. The Vizalert would be more advanced, but the LED flasher does work.

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    i have headphones in my helmet that i use. plug into the V1 external audio box and run a wire to my helmet.

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    ZR1:

    Nice summary! My only correction is that TPX has wireless audio in the helmet (not l.e.d.). This is a big distinction! I have the Whistler with visual, and I can tell you that audio would be much better!

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    There are various sound boxes that integrate different sources and allow you to guve priority to the Rd

    Autocomm makes one and there is one called Mixit as well

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    [quote=zr1;387843]On a bike, there's several issues. Space, using with gloves, water, etc.


    Vizalert - Another wireless LED device for the helmet. It goes a step further though. It has several LEDs of different colors. So you can tell right away without looking down whether you have a Ka radar, K-band radar, or even laser.

    Hi Guy's Vizalert and beltronic STI is what I have work pretty well , here's my set-up 1- the tank-bag

    2 the helmet

    then inside of it

    as you could see it was reflecting a bit to much ,so I put a undevelopped film thrue it to reduce the power of the led .I use a lot off imagination to make it fit well even the STI on the tank bag .I use black foam core ,sut it put some velcro on to make everything fix ,and easy to remove .I hope your enjoy if you have question dont hesitate .
    it's more easy to speak english then write it

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    why in the HELL cant someone make a visual alert add-on where
    we DONT have to have some GIANT wart sticking off the side our
    helmets !

    a box attached to the helmet is a dead give away to a thief and
    every one of these things are just velcro'd on for easy stealing !

    Im not sure visual is the way to go...I dont necessarily want my
    FACE LIT up like a billboard at night when i get hit w/ radar...itll
    just be another indication to the cops that they should pull me over
    instead of the other guy !

    Ill stick w/ my autocom set up and the valentine headphone output !
    Last edited by bushpilot; 06-06-2008 at 02:04 AM.

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    I will vouch for the radar screamer. My bike has an exhaust that is moderately loud, and I can heard the screamer at road speed. In fact it was so loud when I first mounted it that I ended up moving it so it is underneath my gauge panel, so it is pointed directly at me, but is not quite as loud. It has 3 volume settings - high, low, and off. This way if you are sitting in traffic next to a cop or something, you can turn the screamer off or down. I always leave mine on low, with my radar detector volume on high, and it works great. The only problem is that it does not have very distinct beeps for K and Ka and X, because it converts all sound from the detector to a high frequency 2-pitch beep, so they all sound similar. On a motorcycle, this is no big deal.

    I tried for months to use in helmet wiring for sound, it it was just a pain in the butt to plug a cord into my helmet each time I geared up, and it was even worse trying to get a wireless device to go in the helmet, because you have to remove it to charge at night.

    I had the whistler crusader for 1 days, and I hated it so much I went back to my old system. Visual alerts were invisible during the day and blindingly distracting during the night. Rang was not good compared to the high end detectors I had used, and the thing was not very user-friendly over all. I listed it on ebay the night I got it in the mail.

    Here is my current system. I have a Bel rx65 mounted beneath the headlights/nose of my CBR600rr. I attached the metal part of the windshield clip to the plastic insert on the bike with small bots. Then I reinserted the plastic insert, and my mounting job was complete. Then I went to Walmart, found a plastic casing that closely matched my detector and bought it. I glued the underside of the square, clear plastic underneath the radar detector so that any wind, rain, or road dust would not damage the detector. Then I hard wired the detector to my high beam headlight so that I could turn it off at my leisure from the bike. (My high beam is not blinding at all, so I just leave it on to be more noticeable.) Then I later installed the screamer, and I wired the screamer switch to my handlebars. It works great! When I want to remove the detector I just reach under the front and slide it off the clip. When I get a signal, I just peer over the handlebars and read the signal (if it concerns me). The best thing about this setup is that it is resistant to theft. I park it in public all the time and the detector is inconspicuous, and when I column lock the bike, the brake line comes in front of it, making the detector impossible to remove. I'll post some pictures of the setup.

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    This is where the detector is mounted. It took me some time to figure out how to do this so feel free to email me with questions.



    Here is a close up view of the plastic covering. It looks dirty up close because it gets a lot of dust. I cut small holes in the side for the hardwire cord and headphone jack from the radar screamer.



    Close up of my radar screamer switch. Fits right in, looks great, took 5 minutes to put on.



    Here is what I see when I get a signal, if I choose to take my eyes off the road. As you can see, I did not bother to put plastic over the top of the detector, so it will be easy to remove. The only time I had to remove it for water reasons was the last time I washed my bike. It is completely waterproof with this setup while moving forward, because it is so far under the windshield and fairings, and the plastic covering protects the front and bottom.

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    must be nice to garage your bike!

 

 

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