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    Default Scottsdale, AZ - Loop 101 to have photo radar in place 06'

    In the first week of January, Scottsdale will begin operating its traffic regulations enforcement system on the 101 Freeway. This will be the first photo radar system on any freeway in Arizona.

    Sergeant Mark Clark of the Scottsdale Police Department said, "There is a 7.8 mile stretch of the freeway between Scottsdale Road and 90th Street, and there is going to be six installations spread out evenly along there. There will be a 30-day period in which those caught speeding by the system will be mailed a warning citation advising them to slow down."

    He continued, "Our hope is that we're able to gather enough data during the 30-day trial period to prove success. We're really jumping out in the lead on this and our hope is that other municipalities, and even the state, consider expanding this technology."

    Doug Nintzel, the official spokesman for Arizona's Department of Transportation said that while other cities may be considering the possibility of installing photo radar, "No other municipalities have approached ADOT. Scottsdale is the only city thus far to have gone forward with this type of pilot project. We're taking this one step at a time and we would like to see the results of the pilot project before we speculate about any other use of photo radar on Arizona freeways."

    Chris Lemka, a senior traffic engineer for the City of Glendale, says, "At this time there are no plans to install photo radar" on the parts of the 101 that pass through Glendale.

    However, photo radar offers some rather alluring incentives that may entice Glendale officials to reconsider.

    According to Clark, Scottsdale's traffic regulations enforcement system is a "self-sustaining program meaning that if there are no violations, then there is no program. Within four months the projections are that the initial, roughly $640,000, in start up fees, will be recouped into the city budget. It literally is a zero cost, zero profit, traffic enforcement tool that's actually quite effective."
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    So what do city officials consider a "success"? If the system isn't giving out many tickets, that means it's not bringing in much cash, but the city officials can still say, "It's a complete success!" Alternatively, if it is handing out lots and lots of tickets (it will be), the city officials will scream, "It's making people who put everyone else at risk pay for their crimes against society!"

    What I see happening is lots of tickets being handed out--along with a higher accident rate as drivers slam on their brakes after seeing the flash. That's my largest objection to photo radar in general.

    Well, that, and it's unconstitutional...but then again, all speed traps, in my opinion, are unconstitutional. I'm honestly tempted to blow past and get a photo ticket just so I could challenge the constitutionality of photo radar in court (as you are not granted the right to face your accuser).

    Then I remember that I'm a broke college student who can't afford to do something that dumb. The only way to even have a chance would be to get it into federal court, as no local or state court would cut the balls off of their most effective revenue generator.

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    Sergeant Mark Clark of the Scottsdale Police Department said, "There is a 7.8 mile stretch of the freeway between Scottsdale Road and 90th Street, and there is going to be six installations spread out evenly along there. There will be a 30-day period in which those caught speeding by the system will be mailed a warning citation advising them to slow down."
    hmmmm.... well maybe i'll have to drive up there and test my V1 and Superprotector out. this would be the one shot where i can speed and test the cameras, and just get a warning.

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    Just get a warning? Wow thats kinda nice a 30 day test period. Yea buy what you can and test the stuff out. Let us know!
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    I know they say "warnings only," but I know Scottsdale, and I guarantee they'll have cops stationed 50 feet up the road, sitting beside an onramp and running radar.

    On top of that, I really think that if the city is sending you warning after warning in that first month, they might finally say "screw it" and send you some tickets.

    Of course, if the countermeasures are working... :twisted:

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    Very true, the old speed sign trick!
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    bcorby,
    since you're up that way, keep an eye on this project. let me know when they start, and what the "leeway" is for a warning.
    if i blow through there and don't get anything in the mail, my plate cover works, otherwise it doesn't.

    with all the photo cameras up there, i would probably drive with my tailgate down, then they couldn't get any id on me, unless they are a 1' midget standing under my truck with a camera, since that would be the only way to see my plate. hooray for no front plates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerX


    hooray for no front plates.
    That would not take long to get fixed either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holla
    Quote Originally Posted by RacerX


    hooray for no front plates.
    That would not take long to get fixed either.
    AZ does not require front plates, and I say thank God for that!

    RacerX, I believe the installations are supposed to be ready by early February. I'll make a couple of phone calls and find out, then pass it on to you.

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    http://www.azcentral.com/community/s...19photo19.html

    Confirms what I'd heard, installation complete by early next month, citations starting between Jan. 27 and Feb. 1.

 

 

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