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    Default Re: Officers Who Crash Rarely Get Tickets, Records Show

    Another reason for officers be held under the same rules as everyone else. If the state bans phone use, they should ban computer MDT's as well!


    Always on alert LOL but still crash? How many truckers wreck compared to police officers ? They are on the road all the time too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by StlouisX50 View Post
    Another reason for officers be held under the same rules as everyone else. If the state bans phone use, they should ban computer MDT's as well!


    Always on alert LOL but still crash? How many truckers wreck compared to police officers ? They are on the road all the time too!
    I seriously cannot beleive how dangerous most of the officers are around my area.. I constantly see them driving and looking at their MDT's while doing 60+ mph in traffic. I'm seriously considering snapping some pictures of it and sending in a complaint to our provincial parliment (The same folks that thought we're too stupid to talk on a cell phone and drive).

    Quick Fact: In Ontario, Truck drivers are no longer allowed to use CB's unless they have a hands free unit.

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    Default Re: Officers Who Crash Rarely Get Tickets, Records Show

    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. James Clark
    For citizens, they are asked not to be distracted. For law enforcement it’s a requirement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. James Clark
    But we’re trained to do it every day.
    Well that's obviously not working out too well if they're hitting people while distracted now is it?

    I'd like to know where to get some of this wonderful training they always talk about.

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    Default Re: Officers Who Crash Rarely Get Tickets, Records Show

    Quote Originally Posted by supercowpowers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. James Clark
    For citizens, they are asked not to be distracted. For law enforcement it’s a requirement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lt. James Clark
    But we’re trained to do it every day.
    Well that's obviously not working out too well if they're hitting people while distracted now is it?

    I'd like to know where to get some of this wonderful training they always talk about.

    Fine if they offer training to officers to be un-attentive, they can offer the same to the public. Maybe require a in-car use cell phone license lol.

    Another way for the state to make money.
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    Default Re: Officers Who Crash Rarely Get Tickets, Records Show

    When was the last time you were suspended for a week for a fender bender?

    Rooney explained that the department has a progressive discipline policy that ranges from oral reprimands to written censures, suspensions, demotions, and terminations. However, traffic citations are unlikely, the chief said, because of a contract stipulation with the union.“Which is an agreement that means they can’t have double discipline,” he stated.Seminole County has a similar discipline policy; however, deputies could face a hit to their wallets, as well.“For the individual deputy, part of the progressive discipline includes restitution… out of their own pocket (for repairs),” said Clark.
    Just because they're not getting a ticket doesn't mean they're getting off the hook. But what I haven't had anyone explain to me is why it's not the same standard applied to other drivers? Sometimes it's more severe sometimes it's less but making the SOPs reflect equal treatment removes the suspicion of bias.

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    A traffic accident is a bull**** reason to get a ticket. I mean... already if you are "at fault" your insurance pays and it goes on your licence. What, is it illegal to get into an accident?

    The mentality is stupid. My favorite is a friend of mine in South Carolina who got into an accident and called the cops. They came out 35 minutes later and gave him a speeding ticket for 20 over. He said he asked the officer how he came up with that figure... the response given was, "He was driving too fast for conditions or he would not have had an accident."

    Anyway, there was ice that morning... but since the officer wasn't there to witness anything, how the hell did he issue a speeding ticket, which clearly says he did!!!

    I told him to go to court, get a jury trial, and put him on the spot asking tough questions...


    0) Ask the officer if he witnessed the accident or showed up because he was called... Make it a point the State does NOT have any witness that a crime took place only a report of an accident... that he is not competent to state it was "speed" that caused the accident.
    1) Ask him if it is his signature on the citation.... Read the part about him signing under the penalty of purgery that he witnessed it then telling the court he didn't.
    1a) Ask him, "why would you purger yourself?" Is it standard procedure for your department to issue tickets without witnessing any crime or infraction?
    2) Ask the officer if an accident is inherently illegal or otherwise against the law?
    3) Ask the officer if it is possible to get into an accident doing everything right.
    4) Ask if he knows any other officers who got into accidents. Was it illegal? Did they get cited? Why not?
    5) Tell him that 20 over is interesting in that it is the highest fine. Ask how he clocked you!
    6) If he makes some BS up about the length of the black-marks ask him if he is trained to estimate speed based on the black-marks of braking distance.
    7) Ask him if different vehicles all stop in the same distance from the same speed leaving the same length black mark.
    8) Ask him if there are other factors... other than speed that might have caused the accident?
    9) If he says no ask, "What if I was traveling too closely? Could that have caused an accident?"
    10) Would it be possible on a day with good weather and light traffic to travel through that area and not get into an accident going 20 over?


    I told him to prepare a list of questions to essentially put this asshole in his place in court, and that even if he looses, it will be the best entertainment he can get for the price... Not only that it will be fun to request the cops video, notes, get statistics on cops that have been in accidents, get all the citations of drivers who were in accidents... Nothing like putting a cop in his spot and watching him sweat bullets.

    It is fun to ask him things like "I notice there have been 20 accidents in the last 3 months... 2 were police officers... Why weren't they cited?"


    If he is anything like me, I don't even care about winning anymore. The whole point of going to court is payback.
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    Default Re: Officers Who Crash Rarely Get Tickets, Records Show

    Let us know what your friend does. I would like to be a fly on the wall in the court room that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motor On View Post
    When was the last time you were suspended for a week for a fender bender?

    Rooney explained that the department has a progressive discipline policy that ranges from oral reprimands to written censures, suspensions, demotions, and terminations. However, traffic citations are unlikely, the chief said, because of a contract stipulation with the union.“Which is an agreement that means they can’t have double discipline,” he stated.Seminole County has a similar discipline policy; however, deputies could face a hit to their wallets, as well.“For the individual deputy, part of the progressive discipline includes restitution… out of their own pocket (for repairs),” said Clark.
    Just because they're not getting a ticket doesn't mean they're getting off the hook. But what I haven't had anyone explain to me is why it's not the same standard applied to other drivers? Sometimes it's more severe sometimes it's less but making the SOPs reflect equal treatment removes the suspicion of bias.
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    Whens the last time I got suspended for a week? OK big deal, I myself have to pay for the accident and pay for any deductibles , possibly tickets ect. A week of suspension is nothing to compare too.
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