Redline Conspiracy?

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08-05-2010, 09:13 PM
Ω MiNATi Ω

Redline Conspiracy?

Not trying to start a "Bash-scort" thread or anything like that. Just curious if anyone else has come across the same observations. I have no scientific means of measuring this, just "users" experience. I've had the joy of "borrowing";) aa2033's Redline for the past few days.

I've noticed it reacts to falses and stationary speed signs around town like my pre 33.8 Ka and ramp up fix STi did. It "seems" as if the STi was "dumbed down" after the ramp-up re-flash. After reading posts how belscort had a new algorithm to suppress falses I thought nothing of it.

Until 1 day I was traveling down a highway that I knew had a K-band speed sign. It was fwd facing. before the ramp-up fix the STi would alert @ ~2000ft. Now it alerts to the same sign @ ~1000ft. The Redline alerts to this sign @ ~2000ft also. And every other false around town is basically doubled, "back" to pre ramp-up fix STi sensitivity.

Anyone think that the STi was dumbed down just so the Redline looks that much more sensitive? They are the same hardware, would't a software tweak make one less or more sensitive than the other?
08-05-2010, 09:29 PM
OpenRoad

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

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Originally Posted by Ω MiNATi Ω

Not trying to start a "Bash-scort" thread or anything like that. Just curious if anyone else has come across the same observations. I have no scientific means of measuring this, just "users" experience. I've had the joy of "borrowing";) aa2033's Redline for the past few days.

I've noticed it reacts to falses and stationary speed signs around town like my pre 33.8 Ka and ramp up fix STi did. It "seems" as if the STi was "dumbed down" after the ramp-up re-flash. After reading posts how belscort had a new algorithm to suppress falses I thought nothing of it.

Until 1 day I was traveling down a highway that I knew had a K-band speed sign. It was fwd facing. before the ramp-up fix the STi would alert @ ~2000ft. Now it alerts to the same sign @ ~1000ft. The Redline alerts to this sign @ ~2000ft also. And every other false around town is basically doubled, "back" to pre ramp-up fix STi sensitivity.

Anyone think that the STi was dumbed down just so the Redline looks that much more sensitive? They are the same hardware, would't a software tweak make one less or more sensitive than the other?

There is a K band speed sign I encounter every day. I posted a video on this sometime ago (below).

If I run the Redline in ANX (Filtered K band), the detection to the sign is indeed reduced by half. The video shows 1 mile range, with ANX enabled, it alerts just before the stop sign in the video. (Between 1/4 and 1/2 mile from speed sign).

I normally run my unit in highway mode. I do not care about falses. The speed signs do not run a lot of power, so this is actually pretty good (1 mile). I've detected Ka from 6 miles away. The ANX for Redline from my experience is actually pretty good, and a bona-fide LEO K-band in city will punch through ANX easily.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVvyvj1Zh8U]YouTube - ‪Escort Redline vs K-band Speed Sign‬&lrm;[/ame]
08-05-2010, 09:57 PM
CJR238

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

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Originally Posted by Ω MiNATi Ω

Not trying to start a "Bash-scort" thread or anything like that. Just curious if anyone else has come across the same observations. I have no scientific means of measuring this, just "users" experience. I've had the joy of "borrowing";) aa2033's Redline for the past few days.

I've noticed it reacts to falses and stationary speed signs around town like my pre 33.8 Ka and ramp up fix STi did. It "seems" as if the STi was "dumbed down" after the ramp-up re-flash. After reading posts how belscort had a new algorithm to suppress falses I thought nothing of it.

Until 1 day I was traveling down a highway that I knew had a K-band speed sign. It was fwd facing. before the ramp-up fix the STi would alert @ ~2000ft. Now it alerts to the same sign @ ~1000ft. The Redline alerts to this sign @ ~2000ft also. And every other false around town is basically doubled, "back" to pre ramp-up fix STi sensitivity.

Anyone think that the STi was dumbed down just so the Redline looks that much more sensitive? They are the same hardware, would't a software tweak make one less or more sensitive than the other?

My conclusion after reading that is the RedLine has the old STi 33.8 issue. :eek:
08-05-2010, 10:13 PM
nine_c1

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

My only conspiracy is that Escort has found a way to track LEO's by satellite and alert the RedLine via a hidden GPS chip inside.:cool:

Some of my detections were that ridiculously good.:D
08-06-2010, 12:31 AM
Jstglockem

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

Nice to see that you are alive..Congrats again..:D:D
08-06-2010, 02:03 PM
Cips

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

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Originally Posted by CJR238

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Originally Posted by Ω MiNATi Ω

Not trying to start a "Bash-scort" thread or anything like that. Just curious if anyone else has come across the same observations. I have no scientific means of measuring this, just "users" experience. I've had the joy of "borrowing";) aa2033's Redline for the past few days.

I've noticed it reacts to falses and stationary speed signs around town like my pre 33.8 Ka and ramp up fix STi did. It "seems" as if the STi was "dumbed down" after the ramp-up re-flash. After reading posts how belscort had a new algorithm to suppress falses I thought nothing of it.

Until 1 day I was traveling down a highway that I knew had a K-band speed sign. It was fwd facing. before the ramp-up fix the STi would alert @ ~2000ft. Now it alerts to the same sign @ ~1000ft. The Redline alerts to this sign @ ~2000ft also. And every other false around town is basically doubled, "back" to pre ramp-up fix STi sensitivity.

Anyone think that the STi was dumbed down just so the Redline looks that much more sensitive? They are the same hardware, would't a software tweak make one less or more sensitive than the other?

My conclusion after reading that is the RedLine has the old STi 33.8 issue. :eek:

Is that even possible? While using the same horn and probably close to the same software, could they have made that mistake again?
08-06-2010, 02:37 PM
CJR238

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

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Originally Posted by Cips

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Originally Posted by CJR238

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My conclusion after reading that is the RedLine has the old STi 33.8 issue. :eek:

Is that even possible? While using the same horn and probably close to the same software, could they have made that mistake again?

Sure its possible, just unlikely.

Its more likely than a Redline Conspiracy.
08-06-2010, 08:47 PM
Ω MiNATi Ω

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

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Originally Posted by Jstglockem

Nice to see that you are alive..Congrats again..:D:D

Hey brother...yA still breathing. now if i could only find a way to stop this over population issue the world is having:hmmmm2::p;)
08-06-2010, 08:51 PM
Ω MiNATi Ω

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

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Originally Posted by CJR238

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Originally Posted by Cips

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Originally Posted by CJR238

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My conclusion after reading that is the RedLine has the old STi 33.8 issue. :eek:

Is that even possible? While using the same horn and probably close to the same software, could they have made that mistake again?

Sure its possible, just unlikely.

Its more likely than a Redline Conspiracy.

ok ok...maybe "conspiracy" was too strong of a word. But next to cobra, belscort are masters of marketing.
08-06-2010, 11:06 PM
GTO_04

Re: Redline Conspiracy?

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Originally Posted by Ω MiNATi Ω

Anyone think that the STi was dumbed down just so the Redline looks that much more sensitive? They are the same hardware, would't a software tweak make one less or more sensitive than the other?

But the STi ramp-up fix came long before the Redline hit the streets.
I have not noticed any decrease in senstivity after the STi ramp-up
fix. If anything K band sensitivity improved a bit.

I agree the Redline is quite a bit more sensitive than the STi. There
is a huge difference on K band, where the STi seems to be weakest.

GTO_04