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  1. #1

    Default pop detection...?

    ive only been reading around her for a little bit, but anyway

    i saw a topic or two about insta on radar, and people having their pop off

    i thought pop was supposed to be a warning for insta on....

    i havent been hit by an insta on, and i havent gotten a good reliable pop warning either

    or is there a diffrence between standby and insta on?

    idk but i speed like a mutherfer and my radar has yet to fail me when i actually have faith in it

  2. #2
    Speed Demon
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Boston, MA


    POP and instant on are different. Instant-on is when a cop turns on his radar as soon as he sees you flying by, so that you can't detect it beforehand. Radar detectors have little protection against instant on, other than picking up splatter from other cars that the cop has targed in front of you.

    POP is a little different. From my understanding, POP tells the cop who is traveling the fastest, but it won't show the speed and you cannot get a ticket from POP. After the cop detects the fastest moving vehicle with POP, he then activates his K/KA band radar to get the actual speed and cite the citation.

  3. #3
    Power User
    Join Date
    Nov 2004


    All your answers are here:

    The Guys of Lidar was formed by a group of people from this board. The FAQ page is very helpful in explaining instant on, POP and everything else.

  4. #4
    Old Timer
    Join Date
    Jan 2005


    POP and instant on are different.

    POP, from the GOL website is defined as

    POP Mode is a feature that was introduced by MPH Industries in their latest radar guns, designed to defeat radar detectors. POP acquires a vehicle's speed by sending out a quick burst of radar. This burst was so short that detectors available at the time of POP's introduction did not alert to it, either due to a sweep rate that was too slow to detect it at all, or due to the short burst being filtered out as a false alert. Fortunately, many radar detector manufacturers have since added POP detection capability to their latest radar detectors.

    Radar guns that currently have the POP feature:

    MPH BEE 3 = 67ms, K or Ka-Band
    MPH Enforcer = 67ms, K or-Ka Band
    MPH Z25 = 16ms K-Band
    MPH Z35 = 16ms K-Band

    Many of the latest detectors can detect 67ms Ka-Band POP pretty well. However, only one detector has been shown to detect the 16ms K-Band variety at all, and it only does so a small percentage of the time. 67ms K-Band POP has yet to be tested.

    The operator's manual for these guns cautions that "Information derived during the POP burst is non-evidential and to be used for advisory information only...citations should not be issued solely on information derived from the POP burst.
    where as instant on is

    Instant-On is a term used to describe a particular method of operating radar that can be used to defeat radar detectors:

    The officer puts the radar gun in "standby" or "hold" mode where it is on and ready, but not transmitting any radar. When he visually identifies a vehicle that he suspects is speeding, he switches the radar unit to "transmit" mode and targets the vehicle to obtain a speed-reading. If he chooses, he can then switch the unit back to "standby" or "hold".

    Here are a couple of ways to defend against instant-on:

    1. Choose a very sensitive radar detector, so that when traffic ahead is targeted with instant-on, you'll get a warning alert before it is "your turn".

    2. Never stand out in a crowd, or you'll be the one he chooses to target. Try to follow behind someone else who is going the same speed as you are, maybe 1/4 mile behind him. That way, if you encounter radar, he'll get hit with instant-on, and you'll get an alert on your detector telling you to slow down.



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