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    Default A general question about radar

    I know you can get false alarms from things like door openers and things like that but can it be on any band? Because i remember reading in the V1 manual (correct me if im wrong but i think im right) it said " almost every K band is the real thing. Then i read on the forums that most people use auto mute on K band. Im just a little confused about the whole false alarms. If someone can give me a better understanding i would appreciate it.

    Also i live in NY and I checked and they still use X and everything else basically. So how do you think i should set it? I know on Logic mode, but should i mute anything and why?

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    Lots of the falses I get down here from door openers are K band...it used to be about 50/50 X and K until I disabled X band, so now I just get K band every day in the same spots. However, sometimes the cops use K band too, so I can't disable that.

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    Hmmm, maybe i misread it, maybe it said almost every KA is the real thing?

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    Default Re: A general question about radar

    Quote Originally Posted by five to one
    I know you can get false alarms from things like door openers and things like that but can it be on any band?
    Older door openers used X band, newer ones use K. A lot of other things use X as well, around where I am a lot of traffic lights use X band radar in place of the metal loops in the pavement.
    Because i remember reading in the V1 manual (correct me if im wrong but i think im right) it said " almost every K band is the real thing.
    That may have been true 10 years ago, before K band door openers became common, but now they're everywhere.

    Logic mode mutes weaker X band signals, and in the programming mode you can enable automute on K band as well.

    Ka usually is legitimate, but Cobra RDs in other cars can cause Ka falses.
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    Thanks a lot for the info, big help. The auto mute on the K band is only for the weak signals as well right? Because K is still used heavily in NY.

    You really helped a lot man thanks again!

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    Depends on your area.

    From personal experience, I would say that 90 percent of k band alerts are false alarms in my area. It has been months since I had a real k alert.

    For ka band, I would say less than 1 percent, or better yet almost no alerts, are a false alert unless you are by a crapara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by five to one
    Thanks a lot for the info, big help. The auto mute on the K band is only for the weak signals as well right? Because K is still used heavily in NY.

    You really helped a lot man thanks again!
    K automute strength depends on your setting. If you are still an amatuer than I would not recommend using it. It took me a month or so of using hte V1 before I messed with it but i had previous experience with radar detectors so I adjusted to the V1 quickly. Its best to do such testing in a shopping center where you have ready access to k alerts.

    You can have it suppress on either 4 or 6. V1 Dave is running an older firmware revision 1.7 and has the ability to automute of hte 8 bars. I believe this just depends on your version of the v1.

    Someone like Jimbonzz or Happyass could better answer an issue like that.

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    Im going to have the latest version of the V1, because it is coming in the mail tomorrow. I think im going to start it with the 4 bars, because i know i have a lot of K band false alerts, very few X so im going to leave it on regular logic. On my 8500 the K band false alerts are usually very weak so i think ill be fine at the auto mute of 4 bars, and like you said maybe after a month or so when i get used to it ill see if i need to put it up to 6.

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    The 4-bar (option E) and 6-bar (option F) unmute are 2 entirely different animals. By default, both are enabled, and if you change them, you're disabling the UNmutes.

    Option E, by default, causes the V1 to not automute if a signal is 4 bars or greater when it's FIRST detected. In other words, instant-on signals of 4 bars or greater will not be muted.

    Option F, by default, causes the V1 to unmute the signal when it reaches 6 bars or more of strength, regardless of how strong it was when initially detected.

    So, the default behavior is as follows, if automute is turned on and options E and F are left at default.

    K-band starting below 4 bars and staying below 6 bars will be automuted for N seconds depending on the B, C, and D options. If it reaches 6 bars, it will be unmuted. This alerts you if the signal is strong enough to likely be a real threat.

    If a K band signal starts out at more than 4 bars strength, it will not be automuted at all. This makes it less likely that an instant-on attack will be muted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpatz
    The 4-bar (option E) and 6-bar (option F) unmute are 2 entirely different animals. By default, both are enabled, and if you change them, you're disabling the UNmutes.

    Option E, by default, causes the V1 to not automute if a signal is 4 bars or greater when it's FIRST detected. In other words, instant-on signals of 4 bars or greater will not be muted.

    Option F, by default, causes the V1 to unmute the signal when it reaches 6 bars or more of strength, regardless of how strong it was when initially detected.

    So, the default behavior is as follows, if automute is turned on and options E and F are left at default.

    K-band starting below 4 bars and staying below 6 bars will be automuted for N seconds depending on the B, C, and D options. If it reaches 6 bars, it will be unmuted. This alerts you if the signal is strong enough to likely be a real threat.

    If a K band signal starts out at more than 4 bars strength, it will not be automuted at all. This makes it less likely that an instant-on attack will be muted.
    Ohhhh thats how it works. Wow, i give the valentine makers credit, that is very creative.

    Thanks for the help again.

 

 

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